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Old 2020-11-06, 09:03   Link #1281
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To me, the way PA looks right now shows you what democracy should be: more than 2/3 of PA map is red, and still it's the minority in voting, that 1/3 blue one thus far has more voters. I mean... why not like that in the whole country? Why just with counties, is that right?
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:05   Link #1282
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Rumor has it that the original idea was for Trump to lose, then create Trump Network and blast Hillary for these past four years.

And everything I'm seeing is that both GA and PA have flipped, but nothing officially called yet. If no one else posts between now and when PA is official, I'll edit.
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:10   Link #1283
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To me, the way PA looks right now shows you what democracy should be: more than 2/3 of PA map is red, and still it's the minority in voting, that 1/3 blue one thus far has more voters. I mean... why not like that in the whole country? Why just with counties, is that right?
It's historical with the United States being a federation of sovereign states, hence, the importance placed on state level.
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:12   Link #1284
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As a anime fan, this week felt like watching the climax of Jojo part 3.
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:17   Link #1285
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As a anime fan, this week felt like watching the climax of Jojo part 3.
Well, to me these past few hours are like this:

https://twitter.com/RICHEEEZUS/statu...90345828077569
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:17   Link #1286
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:26   Link #1287
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Now let's see how trumputs and trumpettes will take it. Some say war, that's funny.

I can't see riots for Trump, even from those who supposedly love him.
Especially after what he declared 13 hours ago. It's too pathetic.

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It's historical with the United States being a federation of sovereign states, hence, the importance placed on state level.
Yup, I know. But here's one for you: now come 2 months in which we have 2 presidents, one in office, the other elect. Who does the army listen to!? Hopefully it won't matter. But it's weird if you ask me if by some weird joke of chance these 2 presidents were to be in open conflict. Take that, constitution of the USA!
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:42   Link #1288
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Well, to me these past few hours are like this:

https://twitter.com/RICHEEEZUS/statu...90345828077569
And now you've reminded me that Chadwick Boseman is dead. Thanks a lot.
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:50   Link #1289
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Anyone watching CNN right now? Anyone having the impression from the 4 people currently at the table, the one to the right, the republican hasn't spoken since yesteday? Instead he plays with his phone. If one of the other 3 ask him what his favorite phone game is just in jest, I'm a faint.
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Old 2020-11-06, 09:57   Link #1290
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To me, the way PA looks right now shows you what democracy should be: more than 2/3 of PA map is red, and still it's the minority in voting, that 1/3 blue one thus far has more voters. I mean... why not like that in the whole country? Why just with counties, is that right?
Keep in mind that much of that red area is uninhabited. It would look very different if all they showed was the inhabited areas and those would be more divided than just red. There would be more blue areas
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Old 2020-11-06, 10:01   Link #1291
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And now you've reminded me that Chadwick Boseman is dead. Thanks a lot.
He'll always live in our hearts...
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Old 2020-11-06, 10:08   Link #1292
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Keep in mind that much of that red area is uninhabited. It would look very different if all they showed was the inhabited areas and those would be more divided than just red. There would be more blue areas
Didn't know that but it is quite logical, demograffic difference. Ty.
Also the obvious reason: the red counties are closer than the blue ones.

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Even though it was a statistical certainty, this is a huge victory. Biden's going to win Pennsylvania with over 100K votes!
Now even I say to that: overly optimistic.
But I think we can reach over half of that easy. 60-70k almost certainly.
Probably around 85k +/- 10k.
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Old 2020-11-06, 10:08   Link #1293
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About 25k votes left in PA. We may have an ending this evening. We'll have to see if a recount threshold can be exceeded.
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Old 2020-11-06, 10:25   Link #1294
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Keep in mind that much of that red area is uninhabited. It would look very different if all they showed was the inhabited areas and those would be more divided than just red. There would be more blue areas
This's the reason we have an electoral college instead of a straight popular vote, as well as why we have a Senate as well as a House: to ensure that the geographical minorities are heard as well. If popular vote held full sway in everything then the farmers who provide most of our food would have practically no say at all. Fortunately, it looks like there's enough on both sides who've come to realize what a jackass we've been dealing with the last four years (I'd have other words for him, but I prefer not to actually use those).
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Old 2020-11-06, 10:50   Link #1295
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This's the reason we have an electoral college instead of a straight popular vote, as well as why we have a Senate as well as a House: to ensure that the geographical minorities are heard as well. If popular vote held full sway in everything then the farmers who provide most of our food would have practically no say at all. Fortunately, it looks like there's enough on both sides who've come to realize what a jackass we've been dealing with the last four years (I'd have other words for him, but I prefer not to actually use those).
What you've just described is a problem as old as civilization itself: the rural vs urban divide. And no one has come up with a decent solution in modern day.

I've heard an idea or two here that "Why should we even cater to the rural folk? Why can't we just cater to the urbanites, since that's where everybody is?" should be a better theme. Well, I think folks forget that food just doesn't "magically appear" in supermarkets. I know of many times over the years where dairy farmers would just dump their milk because of price issues... so sure, you appeal to urban folks to get their votes, but what happens when the food prices start soaring? It's supposed to be something handled at a state level, but it always seems to fail- I can say this based on my experiences living in a rural part of NY. Short version is, people are starting to make a lot of noise to split NYC off from the rest of the state, because it feels like the governor ignores anyone not from NYC.
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Old 2020-11-06, 10:58   Link #1296
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Old 2020-11-06, 13:10   Link #1297
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Expect the sequel in four years "The empire strikes back", when democracy will be frozen in carbonite for several decades. The exact same thing happened in Spain in the 30's where a civil war between the rural and urban areas broke out, sounds familiar?
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Old 2020-11-06, 13:43   Link #1298
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Man, they should just call the races in PA and NV, there is no way Trump can get those and even Arizona seems more and more unlikely with every new batch counted because he ain't winning enough votes to overtake Biden.
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Old 2020-11-06, 13:54   Link #1299
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There's no need to rush. Let's finish this by the book and insure Trump has no legal leg to stand on here. Let's make sure absolutely all bases are covered as he's obviously not going to give up willingly.
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Old 2020-11-06, 14:14   Link #1300
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I would concur with calling the election for Biden already. Trump will resist for as long as possible anyway.

In addition to winning in courts and getting a bunch of ballots trashed for recounts, Trump needs to win in the court of public opinion. The longer this election goes on, the more people get frustrated and start seeing it as illegitimate, which helps him.
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