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G147 · 2013-11-07, 02:29

I can't agree with that since the Takeru in the Betaverse is in fact a synthesis of Takeru in the Extraverse where he fell in love with the other girls not only Sumika, and Meiya's appearance in October 22nd is the trigger to the loops that Takeru is facing and why the loops constantly starts with October 22nd. I can understand what you're saying but as a fan of the Trilogy, i can't agree to animating Muv-Luv Alternative without animating Extra and Unlimited, since Extra is the start of everything while Unlimited is the beginning of the loops.

NoemiChan · 2013-11-08, 02:36

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Originally Posted by G147

I can't agree with that since the Takeru in the Betaverse is in fact a synthesis of Takeru in the Extraverse where he fell in love with the other girls not only Sumika, and Meiya's appearance in October 22nd is the trigger to the loops that Takeru is facing and why the loops constantly starts with October 22nd. I can understand what you're saying but as a fan of the Trilogy, i can't agree to animating Muv-Luv Alternative without animating Extra and Unlimited, since Extra is the start of everything while Unlimited is the beginning of the loops.

Dude... I want the Trilogy to be animated too LOL. I was saying IF the Trilogy is too expensive and long ad only one of the three is to be made. By the way... do you want that ALL THE ROUTES in the TRILOGY be included? That would be more confusing....

Oh, when I mentioned about the MLA and MLATE connection since...

Spoiler for I read:

Fireminer · 2013-11-13, 08:30

Had been thinking, what if we made Extra as an OVA, then Unlimited and Alternative as two following animes?

maximilianjenus · 2013-11-13, 09:25

we don't have enough money for that.

NoemiChan · 2013-11-14, 01:27

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

Had been thinking, what if we made Extra as an OVA, then Unlimited and Alternative as two following animes?

A 1 hour OVA for Extra, Two OVA for Unlimites and a one cour for Alternative.

maximilianjenus · 2013-11-14, 09:35

sounds really rushed

Wild Goose · 2013-11-15, 01:06

You'd need two, maybe 3 hours for Extra. Consider Amagami SS - even with just taking the best route and skipping things, each girl's route takes 4 episodes to cover.

So really barebones adaptation: Extra 6 episodes, Unlimited 6 episodes, Alternative 12. Which is still really damned rushed - Total Eclipse took 25 episodes, remember, and it's shorter than Alternative.

It's just not doable with any level of ease.

Fireminer · 2013-11-15, 02:43

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

You'd need two, maybe 3 hours for Extra. Consider Amagami SS - even with just taking the best route and skipping things, each girl's route takes 4 episodes to cover.

So really barebones adaptation: Extra 6 episodes, Unlimited 6 episodes, Alternative 12. Which is still really damned rushed - Total Eclipse took 25 episodes, remember, and it's shorter than Alternative.

It's just not doable with any level of ease.

Just that? Alternative with at least be 20 ep!

Wild Goose · 2013-11-15, 03:39

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

Just that? Alternative with at least be 20 ep!

I'm not the one trying to do it in once season like NoemiChan. I'm showing how ridiculously rushed it's going to be.

Fireminer · 2013-11-15, 04:33

Face it, we will have to seperate Unlimited and Alternative into two seasons. And then The Day After as OVA.

Also, the prospect of TSF figures and other side-materials (acessory,...) bussiness. Could anyone tell me how well did they sell for all these years?

willyvereb · 2013-11-15, 20:10

Well, there are actually many adaptations which chose the "read the original or GTFO" approach.

Take the old JJBA OVA series, for example.
While Part 3 is a somewhat self-contained story, things don't make even half as much sense without you knowing the plot of the previous two parts.

Same for many other short OVA adaptations, they leave out much content. Yet it remains presentable.
With a good director and skilled storyboard writers, even that could be mitigated considerably.
Flashbacks and other ways to get a glimpse into the plots of Extra and Unlimited would be surprisingly effective, IMO.

The only problem is that these type of shows are almost exclusively for the fans of the original material.
It'd be a pretty poor choice for a company which wishes to "branch out".

Animating the original Muv-Luv would've been pretty nice.
In 2005 or so.
Unfortuantely from what I heard, in spite of Age's intentions, no one supported them with that.
Otherwise you'd been probably seeing Muv-Luv Extra right after the Akane Maniax OVAs were released.
Followed by Unlimited and then some years later Alternative.
But well, their timing was just unlucky I guess.

Even now, Age is no Type-Moon which can decide to re-make the adaptation of Fate/Stay Night a while after Fate/Zero's success.

For them an approach similar to what did the pull with Total Eclipse is the best.
And from what little information I have that indeed seems to be the case.
I'm probably telling old news but there will be a new Muv-Luv series starting from 2014.
I don't think they have announced the title yet but everything strongly hint for Schwartzesmarken.
By which I mean that there's already a trailer for an upcoming VN that tells the story of the 666th TSF Squadron.
I don't particularly mind this, if at all.
It's just this will slowly generate the paradoxical situation where everything but the actual core story is getting animated.

Oh well, who knows?
Maybe we'll see animated Takeru and his friends in 2025.
Probably after the VN series gets a remake.
Theorizing Age will keep milking Muv-Luv even then.

NoemiChan · 2013-11-16, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I'm not the one trying to do it in once season like NoemiChan. I'm showing how ridiculously rushed it's going to be.

Well, if the budget is limited.

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Originally Posted by Fireminer

Face it, we will have to seperate Unlimited and Alternative into two seasons. And then The Day After as OVA.

I agree since it's just an OVA.

Can we list down the important events that took place in the Trilogy to see how each can fill up an episode?

issuzark · 2013-11-16, 06:59

Are you guys actually funding it or something?

NoemiChan · 2013-11-16, 07:15

Who knows? ^^

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Originally Posted by willyvereb

Oh well, who knows?
Maybe we'll see animated Takeru and his friends in 2025.

That's just F*ck. I suggest we kill off the original developers to push the project so it can be made earlier.^^

Chibiloli · 2013-11-16, 07:36

I'd pay to see a Haiburu anime.

MrTerrorist · 2013-11-17, 00:58

Spoiler for Schwarzesmarken Question:

grylsyjaeger · 2014-01-01, 22:30

Any got links for story overviews of Total Eclipse novels/visual novel?

I stumbled across a pretty upsetting fact and I just wanted more closure.

MrTerrorist · 2016-01-12, 00:53

I think i read this somewhere but i'm don't remember where. Either i forgotten where i read it or it might be something my mind made up.

Ok, here's the question. As a result of the war with the BETA in the ML universe and the need for more soldiers to fight, women are conscripted as TSF pilots. Did most female TSF pilots became Bi since most of the good men who aren't creeps, rapist or bastards they seek are a)dead, b)in the frontlines or c)rare and finding one leads to Harem Hijinks which ends with one girl getting the guy or all of the girls share him, that they seek comfort, companionship and satisfaction with each other?

Again, i'm not sure if someone posted this info or my mind made this up. Hopefully someone can give me an answer.

Darthtabby · 2016-01-12, 02:03

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Originally Posted by grylsyjaeger

Any got links for story overviews of Total Eclipse novels/visual novel?

I stumbled across a pretty upsetting fact and I just wanted more closure.

I found this one interesting.

https://type94.wordpress.com/2014/07...eviewanalysis/

Heke · 2017-01-12, 17:20

Hey everybody! I am new here if i say something wrong please inform me.

Lots of questions where i get more these games or visual novels? My expirense on Muv luvs is Extra, unlimited on steam, total eplicse Anime, alternative which i somehow succeed to download and get good english patch. Now i want more. Dont get me wrong i support orinigal game makers and i am with kickstarters. Progress is too slow and i need more Muv luv to seal hole witch alternative left to me..

What i can get now with offical and what platform it uses.
And i did read rules but i am asking enyway (i am hopeless) is there good place to get these if i cant buy them?

I been looking chronolics 1-4, total ecplise VN and altener Fable.

Sorry for my bad english!

2013-11-15, 01:06	Link #187
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	You'd need two, maybe 3 hours for Extra. Consider Amagami SS - even with just taking the best route and skipping things, each girl's route takes 4 episodes to cover. So really barebones adaptation: Extra 6 episodes, Unlimited 6 episodes, Alternative 12. Which is still really damned rushed - Total Eclipse took 25 episodes, remember, and it's *shorter* than Alternative. It's just not doable with any level of ease. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-11-16, 06:59	Link #193
issuzark Resident yoyoer Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Post-apocalyptic Seattle	Are you guys actually funding it or something? __________________ 柚香マイワイフ！＜３

2013-11-16, 07:36	Link #195
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2013-11-17, 00:58	Link #196
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Spoiler for Schwarzesmarken Question: So who did Beatrix raped in the past? __________________

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grylsyjaeger Onani Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The girl's bathroom Age: 34	Any got links for story overviews of Total Eclipse novels/visual novel? I stumbled across a pretty upsetting fact and I just wanted more closure. __________________ "It doesn't mean much, we never had a chance."

2013-11-07, 02:29	Link #181
G147 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: earth	I can't agree with that since the Takeru in the Betaverse is in fact a synthesis of Takeru in the Extraverse where he fell in love with the other girls not only Sumika, and Meiya's appearance in October 22nd is the trigger to the loops that Takeru is facing and why the loops constantly starts with October 22nd. I can understand what you're saying but as a fan of the Trilogy, i can't agree to animating Muv-Luv Alternative without animating Extra and Unlimited, since Extra is the start of everything while Unlimited is the beginning of the loops.

2013-11-13, 08:30	Link #183
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Had been thinking, what if we made Extra as an OVA, then Unlimited and Alternative as two following animes?

2013-11-13, 09:25	Link #184
maximilianjenus [E] Join Date: Mar 2008	we don't have enough money for that.

2013-11-14, 09:35	Link #186
maximilianjenus [E] Join Date: Mar 2008	sounds really rushed

2013-11-15, 04:33	Link #190
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Face it, we will have to seperate Unlimited and Alternative into two seasons. And then The Day After as OVA. Also, the prospect of TSF figures and other side-materials (acessory,...) bussiness. Could anyone tell me how well did they sell for all these years?

2013-11-15, 20:10	Link #191
willyvereb Mad Scientist #0000 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hungry Age: 35	Well, there are actually many adaptations which chose the "read the original or GTFO" approach. Take the old JJBA OVA series, for example. While Part 3 is a somewhat self-contained story, things don't make even half as much sense without you knowing the plot of the previous two parts. Same for many other short OVA adaptations, they leave out much content. Yet it remains presentable. With a good director and skilled storyboard writers, even that could be mitigated considerably. Flashbacks and other ways to get a glimpse into the plots of Extra and Unlimited would be surprisingly effective, IMO. The only problem is that these type of shows are almost exclusively for the fans of the original material. It'd be a pretty poor choice for a company which wishes to "branch out". Animating the original Muv-Luv would've been pretty nice. In 2005 or so. Unfortuantely from what I heard, in spite of Age's intentions, no one supported them with that. Otherwise you'd been probably seeing Muv-Luv Extra right after the Akane Maniax OVAs were released. Followed by Unlimited and then some years later Alternative. But well, their timing was just unlucky I guess. Even now, Age is no Type-Moon which can decide to re-make the adaptation of Fate/Stay Night a while after Fate/Zero's success. For them an approach similar to what did the pull with Total Eclipse is the best. And from what little information I have that indeed seems to be the case. I'm probably telling old news but there will be a new Muv-Luv series starting from 2014. I don't think they have announced the title yet but everything strongly hint for Schwartzesmarken. By which I mean that there's already a trailer for an upcoming VN that tells the story of the 666th TSF Squadron. I don't particularly mind this, if at all. It's just this will slowly generate the paradoxical situation where everything but the actual core story is getting animated. Oh well, who knows? Maybe we'll see animated Takeru and his friends in 2025. Probably after the VN series gets a remake. Theorizing Age will keep milking Muv-Luv even then.

2016-01-12, 00:53	Link #198
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	I think i read this somewhere but i'm don't remember where. Either i forgotten where i read it or it might be something my mind made up. Ok, here's the question. As a result of the war with the BETA in the ML universe and the need for more soldiers to fight, women are conscripted as TSF pilots. Did most female TSF pilots became Bi since most of the good men who aren't creeps, rapist or bastards they seek are a)dead, b)in the frontlines or c)rare and finding one leads to Harem Hijinks which ends with one girl getting the guy or all of the girls share him, that they seek comfort, companionship and satisfaction with each other? Again, i'm not sure if someone posted this info or my mind made this up. Hopefully someone can give me an answer. __________________

2017-01-12, 17:20	Link #200
Heke Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Finland Naantali	Hey everybody! I am new here if i say something wrong please inform me. Lots of questions where i get more these games or visual novels? My expirense on Muv luvs is Extra, unlimited on steam, total eplicse Anime, alternative which i somehow succeed to download and get good english patch. Now i want more. Dont get me wrong i support orinigal game makers and i am with kickstarters. Progress is too slow and i need more Muv luv to seal hole witch alternative left to me.. What i can get now with offical and what platform it uses. And i did read rules but i am asking enyway (i am hopeless) is there good place to get these if i cant buy them? I been looking chronolics 1-4, total ecplise VN and altener Fable. Sorry for my bad english! __________________ "The Terminator shows terrifying combat capability!" "This must be what happiness feel like!" Last edited by Heke; 2017-01-13 at 12:48.