2008-11-14, 01:53 | Link #2081 | |
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If you put Hinata against Sasuke when all Sasuke had was a plain ole sharingan, I'd give her more than a good chance. Especially after she created her own set of techniques. Let's keep in mind that MS is the exception, not the rule. Its like a mutant. It doesn't occur very often. Five users out of how many since the beginning of the Uchiha clan? I mean, since we're being technical. |
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2008-11-14, 03:09 | Link #2082 | |
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When you mean her own set of skills where is this from? The anime fillers is it? Sasuke with just the fully matured Sharingan was still very impressive. He totally played around with Naruto using Kyuubi chakra. Think of Naruto's strength/speed when he smashed Haku (but probably a bit more powerful) being ineffective against Sasuke. Thats what a normal sharingan can contend with. |
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2008-11-14, 07:57 | Link #2084 | |
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2008-11-14, 09:11 | Link #2085 | |
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But anyways, while both Dojutus shows equals benefits which could help the reader like one more than the other let gets your facts straight because you seem to be misinformed: -The Avarage Byakuga user was the Branch member, which didn’t know any of the Jutsu HIashi or Neeji knows, that means No Kaiten, nor the 64 Strikes. -The Avarage Byakugan user could not see the pressure points and hit them with precision, so unlike Neeji that could close tenketsu and thus closing in other people Chakra flow, other Byakugan users could not do that. -The Avarage Sharigan user was an Uchiha, all Uchiha are considered Genius by default, and those exceptions, Spoiler:
The Avarage Sharigan user had in his hand a tool were he could read and counter basically any Jutsu thrown at Him, Chiyo, that fought against the Avarage Sharigan user, had only one strategy to fight one on one against a Sharingan user…RUN. (I haven’t even mention the Genjutsu pack) -If You put a Byakugan user (like HInata) against a Shairgan user (Like Sasuke) with just plain old Sharigan, it would be a Byakuga user pwning. The point here is that the main Jutsu of a Byakugan user is the Soft Palm Taijutsu, and the Sharigan would read and help the User of the Sharigan predict every movement and thus avoid any hit made by the Hyuga, -And going about that, why the Heck you want to pit down Sasuke with just his Sharigan against Hinata and her made up Jutsu? If you are going to pit 2 persons, don’t restrain one from its abilities. -MS doesn’t occur to often given it was a Tabu, it was not because Uchiha couldn’t gained it if they wanted. The debate about who would win about the Sharingan and the Byakugan is an tricky thing and it is very subjective, both Sharigan and Byakugan are tools, and both will depend on the use it it’s given by its wielder. For Example, back at the Chunin Exam, Neji was stronger than Sasuke, So the DoJutsu alone doesn’t mean much if the person using it is not that adept. But, in terms of the Doujutsu itself, its pretty clear one is created for direct fight, while the other is created for Scout, recon, espionage and information gathering. Byakugan for itself doesn’t offer the user any offensive means whatsoever, whereas the Sharigan does in any way you could think of.
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2008-11-14, 12:19 | Link #2086 | |
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My reply had a little less to do with this topic, so go here: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=244 |
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2008-11-14, 16:27 | Link #2087 | |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSraY1ynr8o All the way up to 2:18 He was couldnt lay a hand on Sasuke who was only using his sharingan. The sharingan's ability to predict movements makes him able to counter fast attacks, I dont know what Hinata would be doing against him. |
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2008-11-14, 18:49 | Link #2090 |
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That must have been a big twist, we know the hyuga clan is older than the uchiha clan, and we know it has a considerable ammount of members now, but yeah there is no clear evidence to say that they where equal or superior in numbers so yeah I give you that.
Another one, why is the sharingan konoha's most sought after secret. Why was orochimaru so much more interested in the sharingan (it might be only related to sasuke but I guess it is not the only reason). |
2008-11-14, 19:21 | Link #2091 | |
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2008-11-14, 19:33 | Link #2092 |
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Perhaps, and this is a wild theory, mind you, The uchiha and Hyuuga clans were one and the same at the time? The two techniques are related, right? It also plays into another theory I've had: Sharingan is the "mangekyo" version of Byakugan. Meaning if a Byakugan user kills his best friend, Boom! Sharingan is born. That said, all theories fit together, nice and cohesive, no?
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2008-11-14, 19:50 | Link #2093 | |
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2008-11-14, 19:52 | Link #2094 |
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Not really, and then waht the next generation will be born with sharingan? Doesn't make sense. They say that it is thought sharingan evolved from the byakugan. That theory of yours has no foundation. Altough it would be interesting I guess.
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2008-11-14, 19:59 | Link #2095 |
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I knew someone would bring that up... Well, I have another question that sums that up: Of the four(or was it five?) people who have attained Mangekyo sharingan, how many of them have had children? The answer: none. So, how can we say for certain that their children wouldn't be born with mangekyo? I know my theory is more or less baseless, but it's very interesting to consider, no?
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2008-11-14, 20:03 | Link #2097 | |
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Maybe. But I never said it was the definite truth, did I? Just an ineresting Hypothesis... |
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2008-11-14, 23:10 | Link #2098 | |
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That dynamic needed a yin and yang too. |
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First off, people, mark as spoiler your comment about recent Manga information, this is not a manga only thread.
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Because there is a big difference between Genius and power, The Uchiha were considered Geniuses, but none were at the level of power as people like Itachi or Madara. Quote:
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2008-11-15, 12:25 | Link #2100 | |
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The Sharingan clearly is an offensive eye, while the byakugan is a defensive eye. So if you define strong, as "offensive", then the sharingan would be your choice. If you define strong, as "defensive", then the byakugan gives you a much better variety of possibilities. The sharingan is tied to the uchiha body to access it's full potential while the Byakugan is tied to the Hyuga Bodyto access it's full potential. The sharingan, i agree here, gives the user the possibility to not really do much during a fight except using the eye. The strenght of the Byakugan on the other hand comes from the combination of body and eye (because of it's defensive nature). That's why you can't look at it seperated. In football(soccer), there's both tactics. Offensive, fast play, and defensive play to create openings for counter attacks. Both tactics are valid and have shown to be effective (On a side note. The defensive tactic is more sucessful in tournaments. There is this quote. Offense wins games, Defense wins tournaments) So if you consider a fight between a byakugan user and a sharingan user, you have to take into account the use of the body. If a byakugan user would be able to see an amaterasu attack miles ahead, why shouldn't he be allowed to avoid it? It was his eye which created this chance in the first place. So that would be it's strength and advantage at this point. In the end, it's always about the "user" and his or her capabilities. If an offensive Football team can't break a defense to shoot goals, and the defensive team isn't good enough in their offense to shoot goals, it'll be a draw. |
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