Muv-Luv Franchise - FanFiction Discussion

[Dragonkid11]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

I also just finished reading it

Ikagura will go DOWN!!! and it looks like the whole nation is watching this one fight. I can see a political twist knowing that Meiya the sister of shogun is the one registered piloting the mech. They could use that for political means and hide the fact on who is piloting it at the moment.

I can see that they will use it to prevent ANOTHER rebellion by....well,you know..."If you decided to rebel,she's going to kick your ass,ALL OF IT,HARD"

I sure that next chapter will end with Shirogane being Shirogane and Meiya being unconscious for quite awhile...

[Von Himmel]

..Remember what Meiya said before that there's no way anyone could beat Takeru in 1vs1 fight but possible when there's dozen of them fighting Takeru at the same time? Well, she should've seen this battle :<

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by DezoPenguin

Exactly. For example, does a shield that can tank Nanoha's Divine Buster Extension have the power to do the same to the non-magical shot of a Laser Class? (And speaking of Laser Class, let's not forget Nanoha's "casting time as the plot demands" issue as well.) Though truthfully, Nanoha crossovers get into the "orbital bombardment with energy weapons" issue, if you have a fleet of Bureau warships rain fire from their main batteries down on the BETA (or Arc-en-Ciel a few hives: all the destructiveness of nukes, without the ability to bunker against it, no projectile to shoot down, and none of that messy post-detonation radioactive fallout).

Hence why my OCs used guns and were essentially Section Nine, as that was something i could quantify.

But i agree, getting the Bureau involved means orbital fire support. I have some doubts on the arc-en-Ciel - IIRC there serious issues with using it on Earth - but it would be a great way to cleanse hives.

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Hence why my OCs used guns and were essentially Section Nine, as that was something i could quantify.

But i agree, getting the Bureau involved means orbital fire support. I have some doubts on the arc-en-Ciel - IIRC there serious issues with using it on Earth - but it would be a great way to cleanse hives.

Not only that, the Bureau could just warp a mage-carrier battle group to the BETA homeworld, and glass it in its entirety. The only thing stopping them would be any semblance of a Prime Directive. If they follow the O'Neill Directive however...

[Wild Goose]

Kha, please, no more khrack. Also, the BETA maybe easy mode, bt their owners are a completely different kettle of fish.

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Kha, please, no more khrack. Also, the BETA maybe easy mode, bt their owners are a completely different kettle of fish.

Maybe it will be a worthy match?

Provided the BETA haven't assimilated their creators already and are ruled by a Starchild instead.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by Dragonkid11

I sure that next chapter will end with Shirogane being Shirogane and Meiya being unconscious for quite awhile...

The cliffhanger is killing me.

[John117xCortana]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

The cliffhanger is killing me.

Seconded.

For some reason I think the author knows this but he still does it because it's fun...

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by John117xCortana

Seconded.

For some reason I think the author knows this but he still does it because it's fun...

If you read paulxion sensei last lines in chapter 59

Sorry for the late update. Like Rick Castle, I like to find new ways to procrastinate

He is finding new ways to cut climax and make it more exciting but for me he is finding new ways to torture me

[John117xCortana]

What would happen if Takeru's identity as the pilot of that Takemikazuchi is revealed during the fight ?

[MrTerrorist]

Here’s a fanfic idea that was stuck in my head. Originally it was about Yui’s friends surviving the Fall of Kyoto but after reading kaizerknight01’s idea of Armored Cores and learning there were a lot of characters in Muv Luv form it’s wikia, it started to change.

In this fanfic, PMCs got involved in the war against the BETA during the 1970’s. The reason for their existences were two reasons; 1. Some are willing to risk their lives or fight harder if they were given lots of money and 2. It allows some TSF pilots from different nations the freedom to join any of the frontlines when politics would have prevented that (eg. An US pilot might not be allowed to join the Middle Eastern front unless it was an UN mission.)
Because the PMCs are not a regular military unit, they have more leeway and don’t follow protocols on treating their TSFs. As a result, PMC TSFs are heavily modded depending on their pilots needs or battlestyles. Some of these TSF might have more armor, more or bigger guns, the ability to carry and use two swords, faster engines, extra missiles, better targeting system, etc.

Despite their help in the war, the US, Soviets and Japanese dislike the PMCs very much with the US seeing them as unpatriotic, money grubbing bastards (half of the PMC pilots are Americans who left the military due to their dislike their country isn’t more involved in the fight against the BETA), the Soviet sees them as Capitalist pigs (the PMCs receives billions of dollars from countries who hire them) and the Japanese sees them as dishonorable warriors with no pride (they only fight for money. The PMCs being composed of foreigners doesn’t help either). As a result, when these countries hire them, the PMC aren’t allowed to fight in the frontlines and are allowed to do two things: guarding and escort the supply lines which the Big Three(which I will call the US/SU/IJ ) to humiliate them and the most dangerous job: becoming the rear guard for the main forces when they’re retreating while the PMCs hold the line and fend off the BETA which they hope many PMC pilots will die while saving their own. Ironically, the Big Three’s attempt on the PMC actually made them stronger and better. Because the supply lines are under their control, some PMCs pilots “borrow” certain weapons and parts for their TSF while making it look like it was lost in red tape, missing during battle or eaten by BETA (there’s one story how a rookie “stole” a Takemikazuchi TSF from an arrogant Japanese pilot who not only acted like a jerkass to the PMCs, but to the pit crews and his fellows Japanese pilots. To get back at him, the rookie, the pit crews and the Japanese pilots sabotage the jerkass pilot’s Takemikazuchi by making it look it could never be piloted again and had to be dismantle while it was secretly being sent to the rookie and his crew to be modded and covered up.) Secondly, the PMC pilots gain a lot of experience fighting the BETA regularly thanks to being in the rearguard where they learn the BETA weakness while finding many ways to kill them in creative ways.

While the PMCs also suffer losses like their military counterparts, theirs are much smaller since most of their pilots are veterans who have fought the BETA more than a decade and the ones who died are the rookies who never survive their first battle or veterans whose luck ran out. Within the PMC command structure, they don’t take orders from the military but their government clients. (eg.The Shogun hires the PMCs which they take only orders from her. They won’t take orders from the Imperial Army or the Imperial Guard unless the Shoguns says so.) To show the PMCs are different from the regular military, the PMCs have their own uniforms and their TSF pilots suit are different which includes e-helmets which helps their pilots better.
So the beginning of the fanfic starts on how Yui and her friends get a new instructor whose a veteran and former PMC pilot hired by the Shogun to teach Yui’s class how they should really fight the BETA instead what their military doctrine says.

I’ll like to say more but I’m busy. But I’ll leave you with this:

Spoiler for future plot:

The instructor’s name is Colonel Miles Lang (You get a cookie if you know who I’m talking about) and the Fall of Kyoto…… takes a turning point for the humans when a new, experimental weapon is unleashed.

[John117xCortana]

Thats a good story idea. I like it !

Although I expect Yui and her classmates treat the Colonel with a cold reception at first.

[Dragonkid11]

YESSSSSSSS

I always like military fiction and fanfiction with PMC as the protagonist for some reason

[MeisterBabylon]

You know, we could ALL make franchises with MrT's idea. I know that Tempy has Section 9 planned, Goose's got a wing all ready to go, and kct has been boiling over with ideas in the Outercadia chat.

(I don't have anything as epic. Besides, when I write about a squad of infantrymen fighting through a city under BETA Mycetic Spore attack a la Battle:LA sort of negates my cred for realism. So until I get something useful, you guys go have fun.)

(And yes, in my world, BETA can fire squads of Warriors and Soldiers, or a sole Tank using a Catapult BETA, into suborbital trajectories and have them drop behind garrisons. Doing so would destroy the Catapult in the process, so it takes time to regenerate. It is however an effective harrassment tactic and keeps the humans just off-balance when they fight into a stalemate.)

(And gives me reason to send manly men in environment suits and pulse rifles to their glorious deaths.)

Imagine if the OC business spawned an entire spinoff perspective on the MuvLuvian universe just based on this. It will be GLORIOUS.

[kaizerknight01]

Well the purpose of most muv luv fanfic is humanity counter attack against BETA

Spoiler for You're messing with the wrong planet :

To the Beta Superior shit head

Spoiler for Up yours:

[Wild Goose]

My fic ideas were really focused around a squadron... Although they were moremlike an pverstrength flight than a squadron.

Personnel ideas included:

- Sergeant John Davis, the main viewpoint character. Formerly a 1LT until getting demoted due to a bustup, he's now stuck being the supporter to his kohai whomhe trained. And ifthat wasn't enough, his old man is a Colonel... Who's also the CO of the Butterworth Base.

- 1st Lieutenant Raymond Tang. John's friend and kohai, he's now the CO for Cobra as there's no one else left. Still aware that he has shit tons to learn, but he's no longer the clueless noob he was in 1994.

- 2nd Lieutenant Siti Haliza. A beautiful girl with a beautiful singing voice. In another universe, she could be a singer. In 1995 on Alternative Earth, she's an FNG pilot.

- 1st Lieutenant Sharon Dauer, the Typhoon of Manila. A woman of contrasts. Unable to shoot straight, but a whirling dervish of destruction with a blade in her TSFs hands. small, slender, like a flower, but with a core like steel. A visibly young woman, but referred to by all as Obaa-san.

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by kaizerknight01

Well the purpose of most muv luv fanfic is humanity counter attack against BETA

Its a bit hard to write for the latter when we know they are just mindless biots.

Though I fancy a "Foreman this, Foreman that" perspective as you, a lowly Foreman of the Hive, comically try to get your bugs in order while fulfilling the Hive quota because some white collar cerebrate will cream you if you fall behind. And luck has it that you fall for a hot TSF pilot.

Dark humor everywhere.

...

:idea:

Now producing: "Foreman, Foreman. A Tragic Comedy." Would you like to know more?

[Wild Goose]

No.

*feeds Kha to Soldier-class*

[MrTerrorist]

Thanks for the comments guys. Here’s some more info about the fanfic.

Spoiler for story so far:

The story starts of Yui’s class being introduced to their new Instructor, Colonel Miles Lang, a former US Marine and 30 year veteran. Colonel Lang formally led a PMC Brigade for the Raven Corp (One of the four major PMCs in this fanfic) before he was hired by Yuuhi(BTW when did Yuuhi became Shogun since I never played the games and only getting my information about MLU/MLA from the mangas and watching Total Eclipse). Two years ago, Yuuhi, accompany by a unit of Imperial Guards, went to the Chinese frontlines to see the battle close up where she had a serious wake up call when she realize despite the Japanese having supposedly the best TSF and pilots, they are no match for the BETA after seeing a newly graduated unit of Imperial Guards who were supposed to be the best of their class getting killed easily either by recklessness, foolish pride and disorderly confusion. While Yuuhi is sadden by this scene, she notices something interesting faraway.

Despite an order to retreat and return to base to the troops, a large group of unusual TSFs that had different colors she doesn’t recognize heads to the frontlines while the UN, Chinese and Japanese forces are withdrawing. As these TSFs form a defense line, Yuuhi is amazed of their discipline and skills when she sees these TSFs are better in fighting and killing the BETA despite being a smaller force. But Yuuhi foolishly tries to get close to see when a force of 300 BETAs surrounds her and her bodyguards. As her bodyguards get decimated, Yuuhi is almost kill by a Grappler class when seven TSFs come to the rescue. Amazingly, despite the numbers, these seven TSF manage to kill all 300 BETAs. Yuuhi’s rescuer was lead by the Colonel himself. As she’s about to thank him, the Colonel scolds Yuuhi for being so reckless and almost endangering the troops fighting here. One of her bodyguards gets angry, telling the Colonel how dare a foreigner like him speaks to a member of the five families like that, only to get taught a lesson by one of the Colonel’s men, “Zen” a former Japanese Imperial Guard.

Zen, a ten year veteran, defends the Colonel because in the battlefield, status means nothing, what only matter is experience and the will to fight or die. The Colonel continues to criticize Yuuhi that a rookie like her came into this battle thinking she knew everything when she knows nothing. Not only did she lead to her bodyguards death due to her foolishness but she almost jeopardize the frontlines that he and his fellows PMC units have made to help the regular forces retreat safely. The Colonel ends his speech by telling to Yuuhi to learn her mistakes and wise up or if you don’t, your dead and don’t belong in the battlefield, before he and his unit go “Laser Hunting”. Yuuhi, impressed by what the Colonel said, realize Japan needs to change its ways on how they teach their pilots how to fight BETA. After two years of negotiations with her government and Raven Corp, Yuuhi manages to convince Colonel Lang to become an Instructor at the Imperial Academy.

Well i end this story post for now, but here’s some extra info about the type of classes the PMC TSF use.

Spoiler for Strikers:

Strikers are fast and agile TSF armed with two swords who are skilled melee experts. Knowledgeable about the BETA’s anatomy, the Strikers can perform quick and precise hits on BETA to kill or immobilize them. Strikers have lighter armor to help their speed at the cost of less protection. While most Strikers TSF don’t have guns, they are at least armed with spikes, retractable chainswords, two cannons or twin mini guns on their forearms as an emergency weapon.

Spoiler for Heavy Hitters:

Heavy Hitters are slower and heavily armored TSF armed with Warhammers, Lances and Halberds. As their name suggests, they use heavy melee weapons to do much damage on the BETA especially the armored ones. The Heavy Hitters are equipped with a special heavy armor that withstands several hits from Destroyer class ramming and Grappler class strikes before breaking. Thanks to increase strength in their arms and legs, Heavy Hitters have the ability to flip BETAs especially Destroyers by using their weapons to smack them upwards before another TSF kills them on their exposed area. Even without weapons, the Heavy Hitters can lift and flip a Destroyer with their own hands which takes precise skills. Like the Strikers, they are armed with spikes, retractable chainswords, two cannons or twin mini guns on their forearms as an emergency weapon.

Spoiler for Berserkers:

Berserkers are a special melee unit assigned to the frontlines. Known as the most dangerous unit to both the BETA and humans, the Berserkers are composed of mentally unstable pilots and killers who desire to kill as many BETA in many horrific ways. Berserkers TSFs are mixed with regular but modded TSF, Strikers and Heavy Hitters but one thing their TSFs have in common is that all have increase strength in their legs and more than three melee weapons or larger guns. Because of their mental condition, most PMC commanders are reluctant to send a large force of Berserkers for fear they will attack their allies during their rage. Another is the fact Berserker enjoy torturing the BETA before killing them which unsettle some pilots. (eg. A group of Berserkers surrounds a Destroyer, flip it over its belly, cut off its legs and proceeds to stab repeatedly before it dies. (BTW, do BETAs scream in pain? Cause I planning to show how disturbing the Berserkers are when they torture BETA and enjoy hearing them scream.))Despite this, they have highest kill ratio against the BETA. To help better their fighting performance, drugs which increase their aggression are injected into them before they fight the BETA. Because of their mad desire to kill BETA, Berserkers will keep on fighting no matter what, even if their TSF are badly damaged. As a safety measure and as an act of mercy, all Berserker TSFs are loaded with a single Vacuum bomb that has half the destructive power of the atomic bomb that hit Hiroshima, which will automatically explode when the TSF is heavily damaged and surrounded by BETA, which spares the pilot a painful death and kill thousands of BETA at the same time.

Spoiler for Common tactic used by all three.:

"BETA bowling" is an unusual but effective technique perform by all three classes. When a large group Destroyer class are heading their way, a battle line is formed. Once the first group of Destroyers are in range, the Heavy Hitters flip them into the air with their weapons or own arms where the Strikers perform a quick kill on them before the Berserkers takes over and kicks, punches, strikes, throws or rocket blast them back to the horde.

Therefore: large group of BETA very close proximity with each other + one dead BETA throw in their way = massive domino damage.

In the next post, i will provide some info of the OCs of this fic plus the addition of the cast of Modern Warfare and Black Ops.

Spoiler for PS:

PS:I'm kinda sad that no one figure which character i based the Colonel on. The clue is in his name.

[kaizerknight01]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Thanks for the comments guys. Here’s some more info about the fanfic.

Spoiler for story so far:

The story starts of Yui’s class being introduced to their new Instructor, Colonel Miles Lang, a former US Marine and 30 year veteran. Colonel Lang formally led a PMC Brigade for the Raven Corp (One of the four major PMCs in this fanfic) before he was hired by Yuuhi(BTW when did Yuuhi became Shogun since I never played the games and only getting my information about MLU/MLA from the mangas and watching Total Eclipse). Two years ago, Yuuhi, accompany by a unit of Imperial Guards, went to the Chinese frontlines to see the battle close up where she had a serious wake up call when she realize despite the Japanese having supposedly the best TSF and pilots, they are no match for the BETA after seeing a newly graduated unit of Imperial Guards who were supposed to be the best of their class getting killed easily either by recklessness, foolish pride and disorderly confusion. While Yuuhi is sadden by this scene, she notices something interesting faraway.

Despite an order to retreat and return to base to the troops, a large group of unusual TSFs that had different colors she doesn’t recognize heads to the frontlines while the UN, Chinese and Japanese forces are withdrawing. As these TSFs form a defense line, Yuuhi is amazed of their discipline and skills when she sees these TSFs are better in fighting and killing the BETA despite being a smaller force. But Yuuhi foolishly tries to get close to see when a force of 300 BETAs surrounds her and her bodyguards. As her bodyguards get decimated, Yuuhi is almost kill by a Grappler class when seven TSFs come to the rescue. Amazingly, despite the numbers, these seven TSF manage to kill all 300 BETAs. Yuuhi’s rescuer was lead by the Colonel himself. As she’s about to thank him, the Colonel scolds Yuuhi for being so reckless and almost endangering the troops fighting here. One of her bodyguards gets angry, telling the Colonel how dare a foreigner like him speaks to a member of the five families like that, only to get taught a lesson by one of the Colonel’s men, “Zen” a former Japanese Imperial Guard.

Zen, a ten year veteran, defends the Colonel because in the battlefield, status means nothing, what only matter is experience and the will to fight or die. The Colonel continues to criticize Yuuhi that a rookie like her came into this battle thinking she knew everything when she knows nothing. Not only did she lead to her bodyguards death due to her foolishness but she almost jeopardize the frontlines that he and his fellows PMC units have made to help the regular forces retreat safely. The Colonel ends his speech by telling to Yuuhi to learn her mistakes and wise up or if you don’t, your dead and don’t belong in the battlefield, before he and his unit go “Laser Hunting”. Yuuhi, impressed by what the Colonel said, realize Japan needs to change its ways on how they teach their pilots how to fight BETA. After two years of negotiations with her government and Raven Corp, Yuuhi manages to convince Colonel Lang to become an Instructor at the Imperial Academy.

Well i end this story post for now, but here’s some extra info about the type of classes the PMC TSF use.

Spoiler for Strikers:

Strikers are fast and agile TSF armed with two swords who are skilled melee experts. Knowledgeable about the BETA’s anatomy, the Strikers can perform quick and precise hits on BETA to kill or immobilize them. Strikers have lighter armor to help their speed at the cost of less protection. While most Strikers TSF don’t have guns, they are at least armed with spikes, retractable chainswords, two cannons or twin mini guns on their forearms as an emergency weapon.

Spoiler for Heavy Hitters:

Heavy Hitters are slower and heavily armored TSF armed with Warhammers, Lances and Halberds. As their name suggests, they use heavy melee weapons to do much damage on the BETA especially the armored ones. The Heavy Hitters are equipped with a special heavy armor that withstands several hits from Destroyer class ramming and Grappler class strikes before breaking. Thanks to increase strength in their arms and legs, Heavy Hitters have the ability to flip BETAs especially Destroyers by using their weapons to smack them upwards before another TSF kills them on their exposed area. Even without weapons, the Heavy Hitters can lift and flip a Destroyer with their own hands which takes precise skills. Like the Strikers, they are armed with spikes, retractable chainswords, two cannons or twin mini guns on their forearms as an emergency weapon.

Spoiler for Berserkers:

Berserkers are a special melee unit assigned to the frontlines. Known as the most dangerous unit to both the BETA and humans, the Berserkers are composed of mentally unstable pilots and killers who desire to kill as many BETA in many horrific ways. Berserkers TSFs are mixed with regular but modded TSF, Strikers and Heavy Hitters but one thing their TSFs have in common is that all have increase strength in their legs and more than three melee weapons or larger guns. Because of their mental condition, most PMC commanders are reluctant to send a large force of Berserkers for fear they will attack their allies during their rage. Another is the fact Berserker enjoy torturing the BETA before killing them which unsettle some pilots. (eg. A group of Berserkers surrounds a Destroyer, flip it over its belly, cut off its legs and proceeds to stab repeatedly before it dies. (BTW, do BETAs scream in pain? Cause I planning to show how disturbing the Berserkers are when they torture BETA and enjoy hearing them scream.))Despite this, they have highest kill ratio against the BETA. To help better their fighting performance, drugs which increase their aggression are injected into them before they fight the BETA. Because of their mad desire to kill BETA, Berserkers will keep on fighting no matter what, even if their TSF are badly damaged. As a safety measure and as an act of mercy, all Berserker TSFs are loaded with a single Vacuum bomb that has half the destructive power of the atomic bomb that hit Hiroshima, which will automatically explode when the TSF is heavily damaged and surrounded by BETA, which spares the pilot a painful death and kill thousands of BETA at the same time.

Spoiler for Common tactic used by all three.:

"BETA bowling" is an unusual but effective technique perform by all three classes. When a large group Destroyer class are heading their way, a battle line is formed. Once the first group of Destroyers are in range, the Heavy Hitters flip them into the air with their weapons or own arms where the Strikers perform a quick kill on them before the Berserkers takes over and kicks, punches, strikes, throws or rocket blast them back to the horde.

Therefore: large group of BETA very close proximity with each other + one dead BETA throw in their way = massive domino damage.

In the next post, i will provide some info of the OCs of this fic plus the addition of the cast of Modern Warfare and Black Ops.

Spoiler for PS:

PS:I'm kinda sad that no one figure which character i based the Colonel on. The clue is in his name.

Pretty good setting for a side story or a off shoot , the minor issue is Yuuhi at 2001 her age is around 16/17 ish the same as Meiya, i think in 1999 Yuuhi is not yet a shogun, maybe a candidate, ( There are five royal house holds and appointed by a regency ) wish you the best in writing your fanfic

ps i suggest you play the game Extra/Unlimited/ Alternative ...... just be ready at the trauma train of Alternative ( Still "bruised" by Alternative , writing fanfic is became a from to explore what if scenario