[Game] Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Ep. 3 Banquet of the golden witch

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Maho Momo

Thanks!

So you already answered who the first twilight victims were, but may I ask who died on the rest of the twilights this time?

Spoiler for Death Order:

I'm just going in the order that they were killed as I'm not sure about the specific Twilights and it gets kinda convoluted at the end
Second Twilight
Rosa & Maria
Third Twilight
Rudolf, Hideyoshi & Kyrie
Forth Twilight
Krass & Natsuhi
Fifth Twilight
George
Sixth Twilight
Nanjo & Jessica

Spoiler for Battler:

He was Killed by Eva

[d-one]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Spoiler for :

Ange Beatrice/Ushiromiya Ange: She just plain moe~ and I suspect she has a brother complex
Eva Beatrice: The person I've been calling Madame Beatrice... she goes insane at the end

Spoiler for ?:

What do you mean by those 2 chara? did Ange and Eva becoming Beatrice?

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by d-one

Spoiler for ?:

What do you mean by those 2 chara? did Ange and Eva becoming Beatrice?

Spoiler for :

No they didn't become Beatrice

[Thisguy]

Finished it, and I must say that

Spoiler:

Beato was so moe while it lasted
Well, dunno, the way facial expressions were used around "last" scenes may be implying that there were some truth behind her pretence, especially with what scary 34 said in Tea Party.

I got a feeling that we're already reaching the bottom of Beatrice as character, and there're (most likely) more than 4 episodes to go, including Answer arcs.
That's rather fast if she will remain as the final villain of series, if you ask me... maybe 34 or someone else's gonna take over the role of last boss?

[Nadeor]

Gee Sterling! No Spoilers please >.<
Can't Resist...I'm only human T.T

[Asashio123]

I suppose it's just us non-Japenese speakers pestering everyone for answers. Thanks for answering them, by the way.

Otherwise, how are the Battler/Kyrie interactions going? Or is Battler unable to interact with his stepmother, despite her being alive for once? (That's not a question that requires a spoilerific answer, is it?)

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Thisguy

Finished it, and I must say that

Spoiler:

Beato was so moe while it lasted
Well, dunno, the way facial expressions were used around "last" scenes may be implying that there were some truth behind her pretence, especially with what scary 34 said in Tea Party.

Spoiler for :

Yeah it seemed to imply something... maybe Beato will be like how Takano was with Tommy. Also Beato did act that way about him when Battler wasn't around.

[Klashikari]

I'm just done with Episode 3, and I can say that Ryukishi has the title of the most crazy author being the MOST unpredictable ever.
Episode 2 was full of "twists", but these are ridiculous compared to the sheer amount in episode 3, in a extremely good way.

I can't say much aside that the plot is exactly like in higurashi: the first 2 episodes give the premises, then the third one (Tatarigoroshi/Banquet of the Golden Witch) is just a huge nuke on the face.

Spoiler for impressions:

-Beato VS Walgiria: holy sh... the battle was epic despite the limitations of the VN format. (あかいくつ偽 BGM was godly there)
-Battler going completely berserk against beato then Eva Beatrice
-Kanon VS Lucifer: who can stop him? Just like battler, kanon keeps going GAR over the chapters

Just like Battler, I have been totally deceived by Beato. I was encouraging and admiring her with the whole deal against Eva Beatrice (which deserve to be endlessly stuck a firewood place in witch hunt era). But as soon as she reveals her guise and Walgiria, I was really in "HOLY SHIT NO", as much as when Eva Beatrice killed George when he was with shannon.

Ange is certainly an interesting addition in the brawl though I wonder what she can do during the "tea parties", though Bernkastel claims her help is necessary. Knowing her (for Akasaka in Higurashi), the choice is certainly not random.

As for the plot itself, I cannot give head or tail for the whole deal... I mean, Eva Beatrice's red text were ALMIGHTY to the point it virtually looks impossible to resolve. Hell, I don't understand the whole deal with "true" eva (her facial expression when she killed Battler creeped me the hell of me)... One survivor this time, which is beyond usual (along with a lot of irregular, such like the sigil etc).

And... what the hell was that scary creepy lambda in the end? I didn't get everything, but she certainly got the upper hand against Beato, and her faces weren't exactly expected *shudders*

My only complain would be some "dragged" moments (such like the adults discussion in early chapter), and the fact "in" tea parties are much more important than the ongoing plot itself.

But this episode just blows away the first 2, it was absolutely awesome. (more thoughts to come)

[ClockWorkAngel]

Ugh, this is hurting me lol, if only the translations would come faster XD

[Sterling01]

Oh yeah Klash I found that if you lighten the "true" eva sprite she has the same type of eyes that the Higurashi characters get

[Nadeor]

Great, while you guys got all the EP3 in details
We can only rely on your translations for help...Anyways
It seems like more witches decided to join the battle...or is it?
I saw a new witch in someone's fanart, and pretty common in a lot's with no emotions
Great, guess Ryukishi thinks Stakes are not enough for Rokkenjima =_=

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Nadeor

Great, guess Ryukishi thinks Stakes are not enough for Rokkenjima =_=

Yeah, he had to add the Siestas, Ronove and Walgiria

[Nadeor]

What's with the names now O_O
Is he going the Nasu Kinoko style of retardation English XD?
still, looking forward
Once Battler's powers are fully awakened, it's pwning shit time for the witches XD

[Ithekro]

Make you wander what is going on doesn't it?

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Nadeor

Once Battler's powers are fully awakened, it's pwning shit time for the witches XD

Well Battler's dad was able to was able to hold his own against a Stake

[kj1980]

New characters + new music = pure win for EP3.

[chronotrig]

Got to say it, I love this game more than any of Ryuukishi's previous ones. There are a lot of 'holes'(in a good way), things that the characters in the game don't realize that might be hints or things to mislead the readers. Honestly, I wondered from the beginning of umineko how ryuukishi could possibly continue to trick his readers after they learned not to trust anything he wrote in higurashi, but this game had a half dozen times where the plot shifted in completely unpredictable ways, and most of those I didn't see coming.

Spoiler for End of game:

This game has so much in common with Tatarigoroshi. You have the 'lone survivor', a crazy long plot, and a completely new way to look at the series.
...and maybe the true culprit?

I have to admit, until the last chapter, I couldn't believe this was a question arc. All the loose ends started to get tied up even before the last 2 chapters(including that one that was 2-3 times longer than any in an umineko game so far).

Also, unlike umi 2, where we could really only pay attention to the relatively few differences from umi 1, we can finally start making some serious guesses about the nature of this series. In 'When they cry', anything that happens once means almost nothing, and anything that happens twice is a coincidence. Only the things that stay common for more than that are important.

But basically, he throws so much at us that making a single guess is impossible. This isn't a game where you figure out the right answer, this is a game where you find 'all the possible right answers'. And then try to remove possibilities and add new ones as soon as possible, to try and guess what could happen before it does.
Even if guessing the whole truth is impossible, there's plenty of information to guess part of the truth.

...And then, just to mess with us, he puts that part in the last chapter which throws doubt on everything else.

[kj1980]

Well, I guess I'll my two cents as you guys call it.

Spoiler:

So far, EP3 has been the best episode so far of Umineko - just when you think you got it, they thrown everything back at you which binds you in a spider web; a metaphor used widely in EP3. And being that this EP3 was more or less a "fair game" compared to EP2, many vital clues were dropped by Beato, Eva Beatrice and Ronove. More of the surprising clues given was that Beatrice did indeed exist in human form in the 1960s at Rokkenjima. And now we are introduced to the next step from Probatio diabolica, the Hempel's Ravens.

And just about when you thought you were willing to accept everything that was thrown at you, Beato pops a yandere on you and another twist occurs where Ange comes into the stage!!

Lastly, the tea party exchange between Lamdadelta and Beatrice is something that flips everything that we thought we knew about the witches upside down.

Oh and kudos to Ryu-chan for bringing in three very moe characters into the arena: the two Siestas (bunny ears) and Ange (absolute territory FTW)!

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by kj1980

Spoiler:

And just about when you thought you were willing to accept everything that was thrown at you, Beato pops a yandere on you and another twist occurs where Ange comes into the stage!!

I don't think Yandere would be the right term

Originally Posted by kj1980

Oh and kudos to Ryu-chan for bringing in three very moe characters into the arena: the two Siestas (bunny ears) and Ange (absolute territory FTW)!

While Ange is very very moe.... I hate the Siestas

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

I don't think Yandere would be the right term

While Ange is very very moe.... I hate the Siestas

Trust me, yandere is a perfect term for EP3 Beato.