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KLGChaos · 2010-07-06, 10:18

I've been watching the Bakemonogatari anime and I have to say, it's really good. It's leaps and bounds above Medaka Box and it's hard to believe they're by the same author. Yeah, there's no real action in it, but the character development and their interactions are top notch, something that MB severely lacks. I'm not sure if he's just been restricted by the medium or if he's intentionally trying something different than normal.

Nishio seems to be at his best with the way the characters interact with each other. We need a lot more of this in MB. Less action and gags.

Westlo · 2010-07-07, 04:19

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Originally Posted by KLGChaos

I've been watching the Bakemonogatari anime and I have to say, it's really good. It's leaps and bounds above Medaka Box and it's hard to believe they're by the same author.

Read the Zaregoto novels, it's Nisio's piece de resistance.

KLGChaos · 2010-07-09, 19:08

Still waiting on the raws for 58. Saw them up on raw distro, but when I tried to download them, it gave me 57 instead.

Homura7 · 2010-07-09, 19:29

Whoever is interested, pm me if you want the raw. For the meantime I'll leave this:

Spoiler for spoiler:

sirloin · 2010-07-09, 20:01

Spoiler:

Haesslich · 2010-07-09, 20:44

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Originally Posted by _kurusu_

Whoever is interested, pm me if you want the raw. For the meantime I'll leave this:

Spoiler for spoiler:

Well, that's ONE way to break the monotony of battle after battle...

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Adding spoiler to previous quote:

If that is, we've completed all our female character archetypes.

KLGChaos · 2010-07-09, 22:16

Spoiler:

Rejuvenation · 2010-07-09, 22:17

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Haesslich · 2010-07-09, 22:25

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Originally Posted by KLGChaos

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Why wouldn't he be? And look at how Akune reacted... he probably gets quite a few comments about it.

No wonder he does so well with Shiranui...

Last Carpet · 2010-07-10, 07:50

Spoiler for ch 58:

Lummie · 2010-07-10, 09:27

Spoiler for MB58:

KLGChaos · 2010-07-10, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Last Carpet

Spoiler for ch 58:

Spoiler:

Westlo · 2010-07-10, 17:40

You really think he could get away with Bakemonogatari type arcs in WSJ? Come on think about it. Being a manga not to mention WSJ which is the hardest manga magazine to survive in changes everything.

Newprimus · 2010-07-10, 18:03

Spoiler for ch58:

Lummie · 2010-07-10, 18:48

Spoiler:

LeaD36 · 2010-07-10, 19:01

Zenkichi's mom's a total MILF

Rejuvenation · 2010-07-10, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Westlo

You really think he could get away with Bakemonogatari type arcs in WSJ? Come on think about it. Being a manga not to mention WSJ which is the hardest manga magazine to survive in changes everything.

Glad you brought this up. I swear people forget far too often that this is a shounen manga and a Jump one at that. Although how this has managed to break, subvert, or mold the formula in its own way has impressed me.

Last Carpet · 2010-07-10, 21:34

Minus 13..............MINUS 13.

It hasn't been 5 chapters since Misogi's full introduction, and he's already got a group of his own. He sure woks fast. Wherever he transferred from, he must've made friends. The Student Council had a hard enough time beating the 13 Party, harder still when you factor in that they never actually fought the Plus 6.

The 13 Party are a group of Abnormals that were originally at a higher level than Medaka, 6 of which still are. From pure speculation I'd say the Minus 13 are probably 13 Abnormals all with a similar standing and mindset to Misogi, the one person she couldn't help or change for the better. I seriously doubt the Student Council can handle the Minus 13 on their own.

If anything, I hope they get help from members of Class 13. Maybe from the members of the 13 Party they met. If the Plus 6 help them, it'll probably be for revenge against Misogi. Anyway, it looks like the Minus 13 arc will be even better than the Flask Plan arc.

I wonder if he even has a negative version of the Plus 6?

KLGChaos · 2010-07-10, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Westlo

You really think he could get away with Bakemonogatari type arcs in WSJ? Come on think about it. Being a manga not to mention WSJ which is the hardest manga magazine to survive in changes everything.

Not talking about the arcs, just how the character development in his other stuff is much better. As I get older, I find myself less drawn to stuff where characters just come and go with little development, and MB does suffer from an extreme lack of it. We have some, of course, but nowhere near as much as he usually does. Heck, most of the development we've seen either a) involves Medaka or b) is about the characters powers. No real growth otherwise and it hasn't been nearly as fun. It's why I don't read much of WSJ. I prefer things like WSM which target older audiences. :P WSJ really doesn't impress me that much.

Lamar · 2010-07-11, 11:04

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Originally Posted by KLGChaos

Not talking about the arcs, just how the character development in his other stuff is much better. As I get older, I find myself less drawn to stuff where characters just come and go with little development, and MB does suffer from an extreme lack of it. We have some, of course, but nowhere near as much as he usually does. Heck, most of the development we've seen either a) involves Medaka or b) is about the characters powers. No real growth otherwise and it hasn't been nearly as fun. It's why I don't read much of WSJ. I prefer things like WSM which target older audiences. :P WSJ really doesn't impress me that much.

You know, i think that Zen having a power would be a nice arc (Or just an arc on him). He has to suppress it cause it's dangerous, and blah blah blah. I mean yeah everyone around him isn't normal and it'd kill that, but still that would be interesting enuff for meh to read it. Seems like this current arc (Translated ones) Are just being repeated. Someone vs Someone, "good guy" gets his ass kicked, but ends up beating the "badd guy" I need something more interesting, but I still like this manga.

And about what you said, I prefer WSJ, probably because i read 12 of them, and I find them interesting.

2010-07-06, 10:18	Link #2521
KLGChaos The Shermain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Age: 44	I've been watching the Bakemonogatari anime and I have to say, it's really good. It's leaps and bounds above Medaka Box and it's hard to believe they're by the same author. Yeah, there's no real action in it, but the character development and their interactions are top notch, something that MB severely lacks. I'm not sure if he's just been restricted by the medium or if he's intentionally trying something different than normal. Nishio seems to be at his best with the way the characters interact with each other. We need a lot more of this in MB. Less action and gags. __________________

2010-07-09, 19:08	Link #2523
KLGChaos The Shermain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Age: 44	Still waiting on the raws for 58. Saw them up on raw distro, but when I tried to download them, it gave me 57 instead. __________________

2010-07-09, 19:29	Link #2524
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Whoever is interested, pm me if you want the raw. For the meantime I'll leave this: Spoiler for spoiler: Zen: Okaa-san Akune: Okaa-san!? Okaa-san: Okaa-san!

2010-07-09, 20:01	Link #2525
sirloin Junior Member Join Date: May 2010	Spoiler: okaa-san? is that zens mom? Last edited by sirloin; 2010-07-09 at 21:01.

2010-07-09, 22:16	Link #2527
KLGChaos The Shermain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Age: 44	Spoiler: Wait a minute... a parent?! I didn't think they existed outside of the old chairman... Question is, why does Zen seem so afraid? __________________

2010-07-09, 22:17	Link #2528
Rejuvenation Final Elysium Join Date: Jun 2008	Spoiler: Haha so we get our second adult of the series besides Chairman Shiranui. Although she is the adult trapped in a loli body so that doesn't count much in terms of looks. Was not expecting Zenkichi's mom to pop up but she appears to know Kumagawa so maybe she will have a role similar to Maguro's in the Flask Plan arc. Also did she just blitz Medaka?! That was a rather comical exchange. Akune seems to be enjoying Zenkichi's misery and I admit that I am too. I'm a bit interested in what the chick at the end intends to do and what is her purpose in coming to Koga, Kujira, and Maguro. __________________

2010-07-10, 07:50	Link #2530
Last Carpet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Spoiler for ch 58: Just what we need, another new character introduced at the end, and something tells me she has something to do with Kumagawa. I was kinda hoping we'd delve in to all the freaks in Class 13. Like those three that Medaka blazed through after the fight with Myouga...oh well.

2010-07-10, 09:27	Link #2531
Lummie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Spoiler for MB58: 名前 Name? 名前は人吉瞳だよ The name is Hitoyoshi Hitomi. From the 4th page for those who were curious about her name. Lol, Akane mistook her for Zen's little sister.

2010-07-10, 17:40	Link #2533
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	You really think he could get away with Bakemonogatari type arcs in WSJ? Come on think about it. Being a manga not to mention WSJ which is the hardest manga magazine to survive in changes everything.

2010-07-10, 18:03	Link #2534
Newprimus NO ESCAPE FROM NYAAA Artist Join Date: Jan 2004	Spoiler for ch58: Oh Zenkichi, you have no escape from your parents now. "I'm 42 years old!" lol __________________ NYAA-CEPTION

2010-07-10, 18:48	Link #2535
Lummie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Spoiler: Spoiler: She has a bit of odd name and I'm unsure how to translate it but I doubt it matters anyway Class: Minus 13 Bloodtype: AB Remark: Exchange Student

2010-07-10, 19:01	Link #2536
LeaD36 LeaDfactor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary, Budapest Age: 33	Zenkichi's mom's a total MILF

2010-07-10, 21:34	Link #2538
Last Carpet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Minus 13..............MINUS 13. It hasn't been 5 chapters since Misogi's full introduction, and he's already got a group of his own. He sure woks fast. Wherever he transferred from, he must've made friends. The Student Council had a hard enough time beating the 13 Party, harder still when you factor in that they never actually fought the Plus 6. The 13 Party are a group of Abnormals that were originally at a higher level than Medaka, 6 of which still are. From pure speculation I'd say the Minus 13 are probably 13 Abnormals all with a similar standing and mindset to Misogi, the one person she couldn't help or change for the better. I seriously doubt the Student Council can handle the Minus 13 on their own. If anything, I hope they get help from members of Class 13. Maybe from the members of the 13 Party they met. If the Plus 6 help them, it'll probably be for revenge against Misogi. Anyway, it looks like the Minus 13 arc will be even better than the Flask Plan arc. I wonder if he even has a negative version of the Plus 6?