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View Poll Results: Are you Pro guy or anti guy? | |||
Pro | 16 | 76.19% | |
Anti | 5 | 23.81% | |
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-04-29, 17:27 | Link #41 | |||
Paparazzi
Join Date: Mar 2008
Age: 41
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I can give a drastic example of one of my acquaintances. He's a son of a convicted double murderer. His father later died in prison fight in which he killed one of is fellow inmates. So three times killer. The second murder was even an attempt to cover up the first. As a father he was mostly absent but when he was around he usually was drunk of high and was abusive towards his family. Mother of this acquaintance committed suicide when he was 15 years old and he ended up spending the next three years of his life in orphanages and foster homes. I'd say that if you want to pass judgment on him for the actions of his parents the prognosis is quite far from good. You'd be dead wrong though. This acquaintance of mine is one of the most wholesome, honest and moral persons I know. I know that he's been judged by his background and knowing what he's like that just pisses me off. He doesn't even fight back in these situations because he somehow feels that he needs to atone for the sins of his father. That's a trait in him that I really hate. Quote:
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2008-04-29, 22:54 | Link #42 |
Ultimate Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Francisco
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This marriage is over. She has to realize her family F'D thier own daughter. Plenty of fish in the sea move on because problems will emerge and his fate should he choose to pursue the girl in question will be brutal.
If her parents F'D my parents then they are basically F'ing with me so i wont be so lenient. Payback Time. |
2008-04-30, 00:14 | Link #43 | |||
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
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2008-04-30, 00:30 | Link #44 |
Not Enough Sleep
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: R'lyeh
Age: 48
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A relationship is base on trust. can you be sure that she didn't know what her parents were planning or maybe that she knew but didn't tell you. that marriage is doom even if they do get married as there is always going to be some nagging doubt about whether you can trust her or not. and when the marriage hits that rocky patch this incident will come rearing up. it would be better for them both at this stage to go thier seperate ways and maybe down the road try it again.
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2008-04-30, 00:30 | Link #45 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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And of course, if ya'll read back up the thread --- the whole scenario is just one of those "false choice" binary problems... in the same family as "when did you stop beating your wife".
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2008-04-30, 17:15 | Link #47 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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The constructed scenario on which the decision point is to be based on just doesn't stand up under analytical scrutiny. Therefore I see no reason to answer the poll question.
I'm ducking a lot of phone poll surveys recently (politics in the US, meh) which basically do the same thing.
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2008-04-30, 19:42 | Link #48 |
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Thinking and reasoning vs instincts, huh?
Thinking should prevail in this, and I am pro-guy on this one. What kind of crappy parents was that girl raised by? Does she "respect", per se, her parents' decision to basically hit and run? What kind of true personality does that show, and the personality that she was raised to have (by her asshole parents). Love is blind because love is instinct. Instincts do not require thinking, and when thinking is needed, like in this scenario, you clearly should use it and not fully rely on instinct. If you consider humans to be an advanced race act like it. OK dramatization on that last point...but yeah. Thinking FTW. You mean literally traits like genetics or traits like -acquired- characteristics. |
2008-05-01, 00:48 | Link #49 | ||||
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Vexx: I don't know. The actions of the girl seem to - unreasonably - force a binary choice when patience would offer more options, but I don't see what's so unbelievable about theft and family disapproval. I also agree that saying "the company would definitely go under" is probably an exaggeration, but, well, I can see how the son leaving would be a blow. |
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