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Perfect 10 | 12 | 19.35% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 32.26% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 18 | 29.03% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 16.13% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.61% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.61% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-07-04, 13:53 | Link #81 | |
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What I don't want, is a sudden jump into melodrama when it's half baked. That wrecks many an anime.
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2011-07-04, 13:55 | Link #82 |
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I find Ko very cool and composed. He never forces the issue on Ohana and knows to push all the right buttons. He is a smooth operator and he doesn't "put the pussy on the pedestal". He even got a girl to confess to him only two months after Ohana left. You realize how cool Ko is when you compare him Ohana's male classmates who fawn and drool over Minko and Yuina. Same with the guy who was confessing to Minko a second time; he couldn't get a hint that Minko didn't want to talk and he didn't read the situation so well.
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2011-07-04, 14:02 | Link #84 |
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I don't know, the classmates are portrayed as the your typical hormone-driven awkward teenagers. So they are sort of the standard of adolescence. Ko shown to much more mature then them and knows his way around girls and work. He is contemplative and introspective.
Also, another thing that dawned to me is that this show in from the POV of the "popular clique". Ohana, Minko and Yuina are fairly popular students in their school. I like the contrast when they are at work that they aren't perfect like their classmates see them. |
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Grandma could die next episode and the discussion on the thread would be "how does this event impact the odds of OhanaXKo?"
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2011-07-04, 14:28 | Link #86 | ||
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That's like declaring that someone is an elite special forces soldier because he's more disciplined than your average liberian Militiaman. Spoiler for Gangsta Style assault tactics:
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2011-07-04, 14:34 | Link #87 |
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That's because Ko panicked that she was leaving town and he was caught off guard with her sudden departure. He then apologized to Ohana afterwards. After that I haven't seen Ko do anything bad. He's a great guy and really knows how to handle the situation. It's not good to force her to give him an answer. He just nudged Ohana into realizing that she hasn't given him an answer. I don't know about you but Ko isn't your typical shy male lead.
It's not a low standard because MOST teenagers act like what you saw in the beach episode. Ko seems to be above such childish fawning. He is mature, has a job and pretty girls with glasses are attracted to him. |
2011-07-04, 14:54 | Link #88 |
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Yeah, I don't quite get the Ko hate/disliking either.
He's handled things as well as can be expected I think. Dude has more self-respect than to confess twice to the same girl (unlike a certain hardcore Minchi fan ), and I personally respect that. Short of confessing twice, he's left the door open for Ohana as much as possible. If Ko/Ohana never happens, it'll be because of Ohana, not Ko, imo.
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Oh. And I'm not sure the attempted visit to Kissiou was an example of a Smooth operator at work. Quote:
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Ko's SNAFU's with Ohana are understandable because he's a teenage boy. But they're hardly in line with someone I'd think of as a smooth operator. Quote:
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But It REALLY seems disingenuous to describe him as some kind of playboy. He's not. He's a confused kid. Absolutely. Especially considering how every hint we've had is that Ohana is going to become a Sui/Satsuki style super powered dragon lady when she grows up. |
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2011-07-04, 15:29 | Link #90 | |
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I think my main reason for backing Kou x Ohana is that they're a matching pair. Both are a bit insecure under the surface, both are underdogs in a way. They go well together.
(It's a bit like how I shipped the older brother and the miko in Wagaya no Oinari-sama - they both seem clueless about the opposite sex, so it would be cute.) Tohru does have his appeals - the way he acts like a ten year old with a crush despite being being cool on the surface is kind of cute - the problem is it also makes him come across as a bit of a prick. Quote:
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2011-07-04, 16:15 | Link #91 | ||
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Maybe I'm incorrect but I don't think a lot of people actually hate Ko, we just hate what he does to the show.
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1. Their only communication for quite a while after Ohana left was a single text. 2. He backed out on a visit to her after he already took the train there because he saw she was busy. I'm really amazed on how terrible they make the communication between Ko and Ohana. Also yes, the inn was full but from how big they were making out Yuina's inn to be he could have easily found somewhere else to stay. 3. Ohana runs off in the rain and gets discovered by Minko and Tohru, instead of him dashing after her, which I was really hoping would happen as some sort of character redemption. 4. He pretty much just accepts it without a fight when Ohana tells him her tearful goodbye on the phone. EDIT: I love how in my previous post, the one quick line about Ko got responded to, but I don't think my whole paragraph about Yuina/Yosuke did. And here I am writing another entire post about Ko/Ohana. At the very least Ko strikes up a ton of conversation, although I'm not sure that's a good thing. |
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2011-07-04, 16:38 | Link #92 |
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I don't understand people gushing over how "nice" Ko is. Minchi isn't "nice", Tohru isn't "nice", Sui isn't "nice", yet all three of them have done a lot more to prove that they love and care for Ohana and are generally way more interesting, rounded out characters. Didn't the first episode make that point? The grandma that gives out candy gives instant gratification and is easy, but Sui as a grandma may have been harsh, but she gave Ohana far more deep and valuable things.
Plus, Ko isn't really a smooth ladies man for reasons other people have detailed before. He's really an awkrawd dork, like virtually every other male on this show, he just happens to express in ways that are considered "nice" and inoffensive because we live in a culture that gives men tons of credit for being "nice guys". (perhaps a little too much) Hell, maybe Glasses Girl likes him BECAUSE she finds his awkrawd dorkiness endearing.
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Oh, sure, there have been a few nice gestures here and there, like when she was sick. Or, I suppose, when they went to fetch her in Tokyo. But none of those were particularly impressive or showed overwhelming concern for her. Quote:
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2011-07-04, 16:57 | Link #94 | |
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And seriously, Sui loves Ohana and Satsuki, and just because she's not sweet or affectionate doesn't make it not true. I never said she was a saint or a perfect grandma, (because she's pretty obviously a troubled person) but Ohana's relationship with her made her a way better person. To be brutally honest, this is the first post I've ever read on this forum that's ever made me somewhat angry. You cannot seriously downplay how important Ohana is to a lot of characters aside from Ko. If you take out Ohana's developing friendships and how much she means to them, YOU HAVE NO STORY. THERE'S NO MEAT IN IT.
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2011-07-04, 17:27 | Link #95 |
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I hope we get to see more of Nako and her love of swimming in future episodes. It looks like her "bad-ass" mode switch goes of while in the water; really compliments her normally meek and shy disposition (which I also adore ).
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Actually, I've got another point: you say her sick day was heartwarming, but why? Those were all small gestures that you'd normally do for a colleague you don't hate and who is right there. The reason it looks so great is that up to that point, Ohana was in a semi-hostile environment. It's not quite at the level of a battered wife claiming her husband is a big softie who really likes her for remembering her birthday (in between two sessions of kicking the crap out of her), but the principle's the same. I'll also note: most of things you claim show their love for Ohana are, well, private things. Thoughts. In which case, Ko's got them all beat out by pining for her for months. Quote:
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"yet all three of them have done a lot more to prove that they love and care for Ohana". Especially when you go and consider "blushes" and "looks" - those depend a lot on circumstances and screentime, where Ko is obviously handicapped. It doesn't mean his feelings will lose to theirs. Quote:
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2011-07-04, 18:04 | Link #98 | |
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(and no, not really mad, not trying to blow anything out of proportion. It's the internet. Miscommunication happens) Let's take the manga One Piece. Luffy's crew mates regularly deride his stupid decisions and behavior, even sometimes resorting to comical beatings. "Hostile environment" right? Whereas you have Boa Hancock, whose got serious unrequited love for Luffy, and who during their time together would constantly dote on and spoil him. Guess which of the two Luffy is way closer to? Or heck, even the Mitsuru Adachi manga Touch: two twins, both love a childhood friend, it turns out she was always in love with the one she had more fights with. Or virtually every relationship in Fullmetal Alchemist, such as the brother's relationship with their teacher Izumi, who during their month of pre-training with her she sent them on an island in the wilderness only being supervised by her assistant disguised as a masked dude trying to kick their asses. While they were children. Or shoot, if you want to get even more basic, you have Snow White and Seven Dwarves where Grumpy is easily the most hostile to her throughout the movie, but the animators explicitly stated he had the deepest feelings for her. The thing is, people being closer to those they fight with is a really common trope in both eastern and western fiction, and maybe I sorta take that for granted.
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2011-07-04, 19:07 | Link #99 | ||
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I will admit Ohana is pretty close to her coworkers (Minko, Nako) and Yuina, also probably her grandmother/boss. Tohru... eh, I haven't seen much indication that she thinks of him as anything beyond Minko's crush (another case of poor communication) and that guy who occasionally bullies her.
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2011-07-04, 19:41 | Link #100 |
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Yuina and Minchi were so cute in their swimsuits. Lol Nako swimming at night and Ohana thinking it was a kappa. Even better these 2 can't get out of their daily routines of working at the inn.
Yuina was great this ep, i think she's the most interesting character. Pretty clear since the beginning when we first met her that she wouldn't want to work at an in. At least she made t vocal to everyone. Sucks for Yosuke lost his workers ad fiance at the same time. Think he deserved it.
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