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Myssa Rei · 2013-08-10, 18:33

I think one of the main causes of ambiguity is the fact that, in all the previous school mysteries, we've discovered that most of them (ignoring the memorial stone) were just the result of Yuuko messing around, and then conveniently forgetting about what she did. This time though, we've seen a rumor take root from Teiichi's point of view. What exactly does "becoming part of the school mysteries" entail in this case anyway?

Definitely need the epilogue for this one.

XFire · 2013-08-10, 22:59

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Originally Posted by CBredbeard

Living in the minds of others is not the same as living. Killing yourself is not to be lauded. Letting someone kill themselves because of you is repugnant. Teiichi had his whole live ahead of him and Yoko took it form him.

No, he did it to himself. She had no control over this. He's the one who wrote that story. And for the last time, he isn't dead. He still exists in this world, he hasn't passed on.

And what do you mean he had his whole life in front of him? He didn't lose it. In fact, he kept his life by doing this. You're trying to twist this into "Yoko yandere-killed him", but that isn't remotely what happened.

Let's go over this nice and easy so you understand.

Yoko was gone
The story was necessary to bring her back
Teiichi created and modified the story
Teiichi wrote him being with Yoko into the story
Teiichi's story takes hold and he becomes the same existence as Yoko.
They meet again.
The End.

ZODDGUTS · 2013-08-10, 23:48

I'm with CB. I feel bad for he's parents and friends who have to live the fact they someone important to them. Wherever it was murder/suicide or whatever doesn't change the fact it's fucked up. Happy for him and Yoko sure, but not so much for everyone else left living to deal with what happened.

Shadow5YA · 2013-08-10, 23:55

My god...

We don't even know if he's dead! The chapter ends as he's walking way with Yuuko, something he's been doing for the entire series!

XFire · 2013-08-11, 00:16

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

My god...

We don't even know if he's dead! The chapter ends as he's walking way with Yuuko, something he's been doing for the entire series!

Oh, come on. And we had just gotten the trolls worked up. How are we going to get them to dance now?

Marcus H. · 2013-08-13, 01:59

I don't like dancing trolls. =_=

Anyway, the ending, while an impressive one, felt really inconclusive. Hopefully, the epilogue would add a lot of stuff into the story.

AP24 · 2013-08-13, 04:21

The epilogue was supposed to be released end of last month. Does anyone have a summary of it?

APNki · 2013-08-23, 16:44

Summary of the epilogue (part 1?) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=653307

If the post is right, there might be a part 2.

Shadow5YA · 2013-08-23, 17:36

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Originally Posted by APNki

Summary of the epilogue (part 1?) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=653307

If the post is right, there might be a part 2.

And surprise surprise, Teiichi is alive and well.

CBredbeard · 2013-08-23, 18:03

I'll believe it when I see it. And you can thank me later.

Shadow5YA · 2013-08-23, 22:07

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I'll believe it when I see it. And you can thank me later.

Why so skeptical? You were so quick to believe Teiichi was dead with no corpse or witnesses to confirm he was dead.

Drkz · 2013-08-23, 22:30

I want more Yoko

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CBredbeard · 2013-08-23, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Why so skeptical? You were so quick to believe Teiichi was dead with no corpse or witnesses to confirm he was dead.

The ending left that possibility wide open. I didn't want anyone to think that Teichi dying for the express purpose of being with Yuuko was a good thing under any circumstances. What's more, seeing how her life was taken from her, getting a second chance is something she more than deserves.

And it's one thing for him to risk his life for her sake. It's quite another for him to die because he or she simply can't be without one another.

What's more, it contradicted what we knew about Yuuko. She wasn't a malicious entity. She was a responsible, good-hearted person in life. The mere thought that she would be happy that Teiichi died for any reason is a terrible one.

Besides...I want some half-ghost babies dammit and this series had better deliver!

Shadow5YA · 2013-08-23, 23:08

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Originally Posted by CBredbeard

The ending left that possibility wide open.

That's good to hear, because I sure didn't think you believed the ending was open before here:

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Originally Posted by CBredbeard

Not very ambiguous when pretty much everyone thinks he died to be with Yoko.

or here:

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Originally Posted by CBredbeard

Even by your own admission most people assumed he had been killed. I admit, most people wouldn't have seen it for what really happened due to sentimentality. No one wants to think Yuuko killed Teiichi, so they don't, but that's what happened.

CBredbeard · 2013-08-23, 23:30

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That's good to hear, because I sure didn't think you believed the ending was open before here:

or here:

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

APNki · 2013-09-18, 22:29

Scanlation for part 1 of the epilogue out.

AdventSleeper · 2013-09-18, 22:49

A multi-episode epilogue.. hmmm. And another mystery? Is this something completely off tangent or is it going to expand on the ending?

XFire · 2013-09-18, 23:03

Well, congratulations. Now everyone who argued over whether or not Yuuko was "murdering" the MC gets to look like an ass. Including me. Thanks, Author, old chum.

ellifeedn · 2013-09-18, 23:54

I'm betting a certain someone will complain that the mangaka chickened out and had the main character come back through some bull**** method.

I thought the chapter was fine.

Tempest35 · 2013-09-19, 16:31

Hey, it's more Yuuko! And she can leave the school grounds. I wonder how far she can go... and if Teiichi lives far enough away that 'late night hauntings' won't occur.

2013-08-10, 18:33	Link #641
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	I think one of the main causes of ambiguity is the fact that, in all the previous school mysteries, we've discovered that most of them (ignoring the memorial stone) were just the result of Yuuko messing around, and then conveniently forgetting about what she did. This time though, we've seen a rumor take root from Teiichi's point of view. What exactly does "becoming part of the school mysteries" entail in this case anyway? Definitely need the epilogue for this one. __________________

2013-08-13, 01:59	Link #646
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	I don't like dancing trolls. =_= Anyway, the ending, while an impressive one, felt really inconclusive. Hopefully, the epilogue would add a lot of stuff into the story. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2013-08-23, 22:30	Link #652
Drkz ( ﾟ∀ﾟ)ｱﾊﾊ八八ﾉヽﾉヽﾉヽﾉ＼ / ＼/ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: (◣_◢)	I want more Yoko . __________________

2013-09-18, 23:03	Link #658
XFire 150% done Join Date: Feb 2012	Well, congratulations. Now everyone who argued over whether or not Yuuko was "murdering" the MC gets to look like an ass. Including me. Thanks, Author, old chum. __________________

2013-09-19, 16:31	Link #660
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Hey, it's more Yuuko! And she can leave the school grounds. I wonder how far she can go... and if Teiichi lives far enough away that 'late night hauntings' won't occur. __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2013-08-10, 23:48	Link #643
ZODDGUTS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005	I'm with CB. I feel bad for he's parents and friends who have to live the fact they someone important to them. Wherever it was murder/suicide or whatever doesn't change the fact it's fucked up. Happy for him and Yoko sure, but not so much for everyone else left living to deal with what happened.

2013-08-10, 23:55	Link #644
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	My god... We don't even know if he's dead! The chapter ends as he's walking way with Yuuko, something he's been doing for the entire series!

2013-08-13, 04:21	Link #647
AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	The epilogue was supposed to be released end of last month. Does anyone have a summary of it?

2013-08-23, 16:44	Link #648
APNki Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada	Summary of the epilogue (part 1?) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=653307 If the post is right, there might be a part 2.

2013-08-23, 18:03	Link #650
CBredbeard Banned Join Date: Jul 2013	I'll believe it when I see it. And you can thank me later.

2013-09-18, 22:29	Link #656
APNki Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada	Scanlation for part 1 of the epilogue out.

2013-09-18, 22:49	Link #657
AdventSleeper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	A multi-episode epilogue.. hmmm. And another mystery? Is this something completely off tangent or is it going to expand on the ending?

2013-09-18, 23:54	Link #659
ellifeedn Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York	I'm betting a certain someone will complain that the mangaka chickened out and had the main character come back through some bull**** method. I thought the chapter was fine.