Lucky Star music discussion (OP/ED & OST, etc.)

[aorta]

The 2nd song on the single is cute. Something about knee socks.

The off vocal version of the OP is pretty weird. Can't wait for the fan remixes.

[cardslash02]

Well I did my part for the otaku campaign and went and bought it on Wednesday in the DenDen Town Animate. It was kinda funny that they were blasting it all over the store from mulitple directions, so it was on continual offset repeat. I must admit being surprised at the significant difference between the CD lyrics and the 2ch ones. The full version is also not as good as I thought it was going to be, but oh well.

Oricon #1 wo Mezase!!!!!!

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Baka-yuki

Getting the OP from Amazon today

You mean it's shipping, or you're ordering it? I ordered mine April 15th, but I still got an e-mail from them yesterday saying it's been delayed due to the CD's popularity. (Not that I mind, because it wouldn't have shipped until the 30th anyway - it's bundled in with an order for Marimite, which you have to admit is kind of ironic...).

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by krln99

http://www.oricon.co.jp/

It scored #3 for the day. I don't see it scoring #1 for the week because the popular boyband V6 also released on the same day. I do see it possibly rising to #2, though, which would be outstanding for an anime OP not sung by a major artist.

Well apparently it's in #7 now. It did beat Haruhi though. Come to think of it, isn't V6 the group that did the Inuyasha opening them Change The World. Do they have that many groupies?

[Kaoru Chujo]

It's interesting to learn how this works. The chart where Motteke was #3 was dated Tuesday. The #7 day is dated Wednesday, the day of the Akihabara "Motteke Festival." I guess it just goes down from here, but we'll see. The #1 song by V6 sold 16,600 units Tuesday and 9,900 Wednesday. Motteke sold 5600 Tuesday and the number wasn't reported for Wednesday. Only two of Wednesday's top ten songs were not Wednesday releases.

Whatever the case, getting as high as #3 is outstanding. I'll bet the seiyuus are thrilled to see their names so high on the charts (the singers are all given by character and seiyuu name). KOTOKO's Hayate OP was released the same day and "only" reached #6, then dropped to #9.

Fukuhara Kaori (Tsukasa) and Katou Emiri (Kagami) both have pieces in their blog about the release.

V6, the #1 song's artists, are, have been around for 11 years and have had 31 singles and 9 albums. Of those, 15 singles and 8 albums have reached #1. So I guess they're fairly popular.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

It's interesting to learn how this works. The chart where Motteke was #3 was dated Tuesday. The #7 day is dated Wednesday, the day of the Akihabara "Motteke Festival." I guess it just goes down from here, but we'll see. The #1 song by V6 sold 16,600 units Tuesday and 9,900 Wednesday. Motteke sold 5600 Tuesday and the number wasn't reported for Wednesday. Only two of Wednesday's top ten songs were not Wednesday releases.

Whatever the case, getting as high as #3 is outstanding. I'll bet the seiyuus are thrilled to see their names so high on the charts (the singers are all given by character and seiyuu name). KOTOKO's Hayate OP was released the same day and "only" reached #6, then dropped to #9.

Fukuhara Kaori (Tsukasa) and Katou Emiri (Kagami) both have pieces in their blog about the release.

V6, the #1 song's artists, are, have been around for 11 years and have had 31 singles and 9 albums. Of those, 15 singles and 8 albums have reached #1. So I guess they're fairly popular.

Hayate didn't have a massive fan and industry campaign to promote it though so it had a handicap vs Sailor Fuku. They also seemed to have forgone a 1 Disc Per Customer Policy, which kind of sucks for people who went to get the disc and saw it was sold out because some guy bought like 12 of them in one go just before they got there. The buying frenzy seemed to outweigh peoples collective desire to enjoy the music.

Anyway I wonder if they ponder their place on the chart on the blogs. I'm sure they are happy, but I also wonder if there's any doubt in their minds as to whether it was the fact that people enjoyed their music or the Otaku campaign that earned them the spot.

Well I read the blog through a translator and it seems that they are just mentioning that it was out and they talked a little bit about the song from their end.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

Hayate didn't have a massive fan and industry campaign to promote it though so it had a handicap vs Sailor Fuku. They also seemed to have forgone a 1 Disc Per Customer Policy, which kind of sucks for people who went to get the disc and saw it was sold out because some guy bought like 12 of them in one go just before they got there. The buying frenzy seemed to outweigh peoples collective desire to enjoy the music.

Anyway I wonder if they ponder their place on the chart on the blogs. I'm sure they are happy, but I also wonder if there's any doubt in their minds as to whether it was the fact that people enjoyed their music or the Otaku campaign that earned them the spot.

You know, Kaioshin, sometimes your constant negativity makes me so mad. (Especially since there is always a smidgen of truth in what you say.) However, consider the facts that (1) Hayate is a weekend morning anime with (2) a top cast and (3) has the best-known anime singer doing its OP. In addition, (4) part of the PV was featured yesterday on Oricon's front page: in fact it may have had bigger publicity than Motteke. This all gives it a big advantage over a midnight anime with only one known cast member, and which elicited strong negative opinion when it first aired. The fact is that the excellence of the show has won a lot of people over, as has the uniqueness of the OP.

If I were the seiyuu, I wouldn't care a whit whether the otaku campaign helped me. I'd realize that my own performance in the anime helped stimulate the campaign, for one thing. And professionals don't have time for worrying how they succeeded, they are just focussed on succeeding. This is not some academic game for them, but their real lives. You often make statements of this kind, and they always seem completely beside the point to me, just a way of finding negativity in something positive. That also goes for your hint that V6 wasn't very popular. I noticed that you didn't comment on the stats I gave that seemed to indicate it was very popular, but just sought some other way of denigrating the LS seiyuus' achievement. I'm not saying not to do that, just saying that it makes me mad, lol.

None of the seiyuus has yet commented on the Oricon chart.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

You know, Kaioshin, sometimes your constant negativity makes me so mad. (Especially since there is always a smidgen of truth in what you say.) However, consider the facts that (1) Hayate is a weekend morning anime with (2) a top cast and (3) has the best-known anime singer doing its OP. In addition, (4) part of the PV was featured yesterday on Oricon's front page: in fact it may have had bigger publicity than Motteke. This all gives it a big advantage over a midnight anime with only one known cast member, and which elicited strong negative opinion when it first aired. The fact is that the excellence of the show has won a lot of people over, as has the uniqueness of the OP.

If I were the seiyuu, I wouldn't care a whit whether the otaku campaign helped me. I'd realize that my own performance in the anime helped stimulate the campaign, for one thing. And professionals don't have time for worrying how they succeeded, they are just focussed on succeeding. This is not some academic game for them, but their real lives. You often make statements of this kind, and they always seem completely beside the point to me, just a way of finding negativity in something positive. That also goes for your hint that V6 wasn't very popular. I noticed that you didn't comment on the stats I gave that seemed to indicate it was very popular, but just sought some other way of denigrating the LS seiyuus' achievement. I'm not saying not to do that, just saying that it makes me mad, lol.

None of the seiyuus has yet commented on the Oricon chart.

I would have looked at the stats, but there is not enough information to comment on, thus it's to early to tell. Once there are Wednesday figures for Sailor Fuku, I can look at them.

There's an even larger picture I want to look at, but maybe it would be best if I didn't as it might come across as negative. There are a lot of things I could be discussing on this particular subject that I won't because I don't think people will be comfortable with hearing them.

I will add just one thing and that is that we don't entirely know what stimulated the campaign. Reading the Otaku mindset as somebody said is very difficult and confusing, it could very well be that they enjoy the anime, but it could also be something else entirely to go along with that enjoyment that sparked the drive and gave it steam. (Damn, I keep doing this and there's no way to make it not look like I'm undermining things). As for the uniqueness of the opening, nowadays yes, back in the day though I can remember this. I like both this song and the Lucky Star song. I'm pretty sure Ultra Relax was the forefather of Hare Hare Yukai and Motekke Sailor Fuku.

If I were a successful musician though, I would ponder both my success and how it was achieved, but maybe that's because I think to hard about things. It's not that they don't deserve a lot of credit for scoring a hit, but I think there is a lot more to it that bears discussion. Though maybe I oughta do a little Les Thinkin and a little more relaxin.

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

If I were a successful musician though, I would ponder both my success and how it was achieved, but maybe that's because I think to hard about things. It's not that they don't deserve a lot of credit for scoring a hit, but I think there is a lot more to it that bears discussion.

What is it with you and conspiracy theories?

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

Though maybe I oughta do a little Les Thinkin and a little more relaxin.

Or to put it another way: "Don't worry, be happy!"

[Baka-yuki]

Originally Posted by Simon

You mean it's shipping, or you're ordering it? I ordered mine April 15th, but I still got an e-mail from them yesterday saying it's been delayed due to the CD's popularity. (Not that I mind, because it wouldn't have shipped until the 30th anyway - it's bundled in with an order for Marimite, which you have to admit is kind of ironic...).

Buying, I was finally able to order a copy. I just hope it isnt delayed. Haven't gotten that email. Yet.

[Ascaloth]

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

What is it with you and conspiracy theories?
Or to put it another way: "Don't worry, be happy!"

Or. in other words,

Spoiler for visual representation:

Hit it!!!



Hakuna Matata!
What a wonderful phrase!
Hakuna Matata!
Ain't no passing craze!
It means no worries,
for the rest of your daaaaays.
It's our problem-free,
philosophy....
Hakuna Matata!

[Michael Hopcroft]

The line "Education! Love is ABC!" is extremely dirty (and thus very Kona-chan) in this context.

Heck, it's dirty is just about any context.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by Michael Hopcroft

The line "Education! Love is ABC!" is extremely dirty (and thus very Kona-chan) in this context.

Heck, it's dirty is just about any context.

Forgive my naivetés, but I can't manage to twist my brain around enough to make this dirty.

[Risaa]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

Forgive my naivetés, but I can't manage to twist my brain around enough to make this dirty.

Same... Feeling like Tsukasa at the moment.

(When I see "ABC"... I think of "Already Been Chewed".)

[Kaoru Chujo]

Another piece on Akiba Blog, with pictures, about sales of Motteke. They say that some stores sold out and got restocked. Another blog suggests that, as FatPianoBoy said about HareHareYukai, the lack of stock contributed to the drop in sales from Tuesday to Wednesday. We'll see how things go tomorrow. Over the past couple of hours, Motteke has been the top, then the second-best seller on Amazon Japan.

The Akiba Blog post says that Motteke sold 4000 units in two particular stores in Akihabara on its opening day, almost double the 2200 that HareHareYukai sold.

A post on 2channel makes me more sure that KOTOKO's OP for Hayate actually got more commercial publicity than Motteke: the poster said he went to Karaoke and the Hayate song was available, but not the Lucky Star song. KyoAni seem to have mastered viral advertising, as someone said a while ago.

By the way, the KOTOKO PV, which is on Oricon's front page right now, is pretty entertaining. Good cuts and good dancing. I'm not a huge fan of the singer, but she's okay, too.

[DragoonKain3]

I was sure that someone more knowledgeable in the Japanese language (I know zilch, or close to it anyway) was going to answer soon, but so far no answers, so here goes.

To those who haven't been exposed to it, ABC is the Japanese equivalent of the 'four bases' in the western world. Basically, its a euphemised way of describing how far one is in a relationship. My memory is pretty hazy on this one (I haven't come across it in at least a year or two), but IIRC it's exactly what the baseball one stands for except for leaving out third base. (A = 1st, B=2nd, C=home run)

[kingsky123]

er... what is the song for the initial D lucky star?

[Kaoru Chujo]

Motteke is back up to #5 in the charts for Thursday. So Tuesday #3, Wednesday #7, Thursday #5. The Hayate OP is down to #10 (so 6-9-10), with its PV still prominently displayed on the Oricon charts' front page.

[Vexx]

DragoonKain3 is indeed correct... but I wasn't going to answer til I had some reference --- oddly enough, I haven't spotted a reference to cite outside of a book on Japanese slang.

[Risaa]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

To those who haven't been exposed to it, ABC is the Japanese equivalent of the 'four bases' in the western world. Basically, its a euphemised way of describing how far one is in a relationship. My memory is pretty hazy on this one (I haven't come across it in at least a year or two), but IIRC it's exactly what the baseball one stands for except for leaving out third base. (A = 1st, B=2nd, C=home run)

Ah, thank you. Now I fail to see how that is *extremely* dirty (I don't consider the baseball euphemism dirty), but I guess that's just me.