Fate/Zero - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[ChronoReverse]

Originally Posted by Lost My Music

Kayneth should be dead just from the mercury entering his bloodstream after he got shot for the second time. Poor Kayneth, he is as good as dead now.

Mercury is poisonous but not so poisonous that you'd die immediately or even within a month. It's a fairly slow acting poison and not particularly powerful either.

And yeah, the Contender is basically like a rifle. Bulletproof vests will do nothing against it. And that's assuming Kayneth would use something so base as a mundane bulletproof vest.

[jeroz]

Originally Posted by kk2extreme

Kayneth should have worn a bullet proof vest before engaging battle

the only difference is that instead of bleeding his collarbone, ribs, and shoulderblade will be smashed.

probably worse than being shot

[iBeast]

Am I the only one that doesn't like KK? And I think his voice actor is too deep... he should have a much higher voice compared to EK.

[giorno]

Originally Posted by jonli

It seems like in the 4th war all the big boys are involved, but in the 5th one they're just ignoring it.even though it's like the biggest thing ever in the magic world.

It isn't even close to that. Nowadays, the association's stance on the grail war is "some mage tournament between Einzbern, Tohsaka and what remains of the Makiri where they summon heroic spirits and may or may not punch a hole to akasha if the ritual succeds". Nobody really cares about it, even kayneth's stance on the whole thing was something along the lines of "i don't really care, but since the grail choose me as a master, i'll go and win and show those einzbernsand and those second-rate families/magi my superiority"...

[jeroz]

considering the age of the voice actor.....I'd say he has done a decent job raising the pitch already.

[Jaden]

Metallic mercury is not that toxic. You could drink plenty of it without consequence. (other than shitting silver)

Not sure what happens if you inject it though. Certain environments, bacteria or chemists can synthesize organic mercury compounds which are slow poisons. Then there's mercury cyanide which is as nasty as it sounds.

Anyway I'm glad the show is being consistent in terms of quality, and hopefully we will see more of Kiritsugu's past in the anime! As things stand he's such a mystery character.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Metallic mercury is not that toxic. You could drink plenty of it without consequence. (other than shitting silver)

Eh? but won't oxidize, while you digest it and become toxic?

I know that fumes ARE toxic, for example if you break an old thermometer it's better to avoid breathing it because it gives minute quantities, and when mercury lamps give, they are in fact poisonous long term, and short term dangerous for the eyes...

Not to mention that it would probably block or at least stay forever at you stomach, intestines (considering its weight), and make digestion forever harder? Dunno, not a doctor, but sounds like a really bad idea to drink it

Originally Posted by Jaden

Not sure what happens if you inject it though. Certain environments, bacteria or chemists can synthesize organic mercury compounds which are slow poisons. Then there's mercury cyanide which is as nasty as it sounds.

OK! that sounds even worse of an idea than drinking it, probably it will burst your vein right then and there

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Metallic mercury is not that toxic. You could drink plenty of it without consequence. (other than shitting silver)

Not sure what happens if you inject it though. Certain environments, bacteria or chemists can synthesize organic mercury compounds which are slow poisons. Then there's mercury cyanide which is as nasty as it sounds.

Anyway I'm glad the show is being consistent in terms of quality, and hopefully we will see more of Kiritsugu's past in the anime! As things stand he's such a mystery character.

I thought it wasn't mercury. It was just that cop who compared it to it. Right?

[sento]

Originally Posted by iBeast

Am I the only one that doesn't like KK? And I think his voice actor is too deep... he should have a much higher voice compared to EK.

Kotomine? He's around 30 years here, so it's not that odd.

And his seiyuu is Nakata Jouji for several reasons (fits him very very well in Fate/stay night and TYPE-MOON staff loves him).

[Jaden]

In the novel, Kayneth's weapon is just plain mercury. I believe he came up with that fighting style because he is good at manipulating liquids. He's made enchantments that make that blob follow him around and protect him automagically. And on a word it sends out those ribbons that could supposedly cleave through diamond. But he always has to spend mana to build up hydraulic pressure for those attacks and defense to work again. I always found that to be pretty cool and original.

As for the toxicity, I don't really know other than metallic mercury is quite inert. It's not one of the worst things to ingest or get splashed with, but obviously should be avoided. Doubt anyone has quantified how much of which form of mercury through which entrance is needed to ruin a person.

My point is, it's not far-fetched for Kayneth to create and casually wield a blob of the stuff. Maybe he'd get senile from it in the end, maybe he's just fine...impossible to tell.

[Vicious108]

Originally Posted by iBeast

Am I the only one that doesn't like KK? And I think his voice actor is too deep... he should have a much higher voice compared to EK.

Why exactly? They're not far apart in age at all and are said to mirror each other in many ways, so it's only fitting that both would have similarly deep voices. Moreover, Kiritsugu is the emotionally subdued but well intentioned protagonist while Kotomine is the fearsome and dangerous antagonist, so if anything Kotomine's should be deeper. And last but not least, it was Nasu himself that chose for Jouji Nakata to voice Kotomine and I'm sure he knows what his characters should sound like better than any of us.

And Kotomine is great based on his lines alone, but Jouji Nakata, much like in every other Type-Moon role of his, makes the character even better with that awesomely smooth and profound voice of his.

[Klashikari]

I think Nasu is a closet fanboy of Nakata anyway, since... he is basically defined as the eternal "big bad boss" in every Type Moon stuff (Nrvnqsr Chaos, Araya Souren, Kotomine). I would be very surprised if there is any work of them with a male arch enemy not voiced by Nakata

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

I think Nasu is a closet fanboy of Nakata anyway, since... he is basically defined as the eternal "big bad boss" in every Type Moon stuff (Nrvnqsr Chaos, Araya Souren, Kotomine). I would be very surprised if there is any work of them with a male arch enemy not voiced by Nakata

And for good reason - Nakata is awesome! He really is the definitive Type-Moon arch enemy. I will always be able to repeat in my head him saying "Araya Souren" and "Rejoice Emiya Shirou."

I wish we'd get a Tsukihime anime, this way we can really hear him flesh out Nrvnsqr.

[kk2extreme]

Originally Posted by Randomzx

No, the Contender was chosen specifically so that its impractical to defend by physical means too. Only a tank armor could block a calibur of that size shot by the Contender.

Dragon Skin will do

[GDB]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

And for good reason - Nakata is awesome! He really is the definitive Type-Moon arch enemy. I will always be able to repeat in my head him saying "Araya Souren" and "Rejoice Emiya Shirou."

Same. He's my definitive "evil mastermind that slips under everyone's radar" voice. Especially the line you mentioned.

[JPZ]

Everything played out just like i imagined it did.

[~Yami~]

what an excellent episode!!! first Kiritsugu owns Kayneth with his crazy limited edition bullet... wonder how they produce that (I can't understand single word from Kiritsugu's flashback... lol... using his powdered ribs??)
Saber-Lancer's teamwork owns Caster
and Kirei owns Iri-Maiya combi.... I almost scream when Kirei stabs Iri... oh! damn! I hate Kirei in all of Fate Series.... thanks to Avalon and Kiritsugu's plan anyway... and looks like Iri doesn't have any problems about Maiya's feelings toward Kiritsugu...

I wonder what will happen when Kirei realizes that Kiritsugu still got two lovely ladies that understand him and will stay in his side forever... xD

[kk2extreme]

Originally Posted by ~Yami~

I wonder what will happen when Kirei realizes that Kiritsugu still got two lovely ladies that understand him and will stay in his side forever... xD

Don't forget Illya

[molitar]

I am really hating Fate Zero.. too damn dark compared to Fate/Stay Night.. and fuck! I hate this Kirei doesn't get killed in this season sucks so fucking bad! He in my book is the ULTIMATE DAMN EVIL! Ilya only used a binding magic that is about all she knew and how to be kind.. she was no threat to him but the EVIL FUCKER killed her for no damn reason at all! And he is a damn coward! Pretending to be dead so he can use the Church to hide and attack like a damn coward! Killing the weak! And defiling the name of God pretending to be a priest! He could be the anti christ himself he is so damn evil!

NO ONE is more damn evil than HIM because he hides behind a false face! Even the insane one killing children was not as evil because he did not pretend to be something he was not! The one that SHOULD DIE survives which ruins this whole season for me knowing someone as evil and two faced as him survived!

I hate bad ending Anime so I may just have to stop watching this one before it gets worse.. I loved Fate/Stay Night their was more honor among the contestants and civility not all this back stabbing, back biting, petty killing anyone just to kill as this one was. Might as go watch a stupid slasher movie where the killer always catches up to the ones running when the killer is lame.. that is the way this anime is going for me. I feel like I'm watching one of them stupid horror movies than an anime where the Heroic Spirits fight with the honor they have as Heroic Spirits. Ugg.. I was so looking forward to this anime but if I had seen this one first I would have never watched Fate/Stay Night it's so twisted and sick compared to the first one.

[Kagayaki]

Originally Posted by ~Yami~

I wonder what will happen when Kirei realizes that Kiritsugu still got two lovely ladies that understand him and will stay in his side forever... xD

Originally Posted by kk2extreme

Don't forget Illya

Spoiler for size:

Naturally, Saber is not allowed to participate

Originally Posted by molitar

[Kirei] in my book is the ULTIMATE DAMN EVIL! [ . . . ] Pretending to be dead so he can use the Church to hide and attack like a damn coward! Killing the weak! And defiling the name of God pretending to be a priest! He could be the anti christ himself he is so damn evil!

His church on a hill sounds like ...

*puts on sunglasses*

... all the evils of the world!