2012-02-28, 00:28 | Link #1181 |
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That would be more psycological warfare on Taffy 3's part and that the Japanese Admiral had been fighting one thing after another for a while. Basically the Japanese moral broke. They had lost Battleship Musashi earlier to aircraft and other ships to submarines. Now this American task force was CHARGING the fleet. No way those could be destroyers and escort carriers...the Americans aren't suppose to have that kind of spirit. They must be cruisers and fleet carriers...thus the large number of aircraft attacking and the warships daring to close on Battleship Yamato. Basically the Americans desperation freaked the Japanese out.
Though it is also this battle that Yamato may have scored the longest ranged ship to ship gunnery hit in world history...at around 31,000 yards against an escort carrier. Marika has a huge advantage in this fight. She has a ship with a huge reputation (the Bentenmaru is 100 or more years old and still a viable warship that can believeable outmatch three modern escorts). Unlike USS Constitution which would in no way would be considered a viable warship around 1900 against any modern naval vessel. Marika also has a Royal Princess onboard. That can carry weight. She also has a potental backup. last we saw Chiaki she was talking to her father over the phone when something had come up. Chiaki's ship could also be in the area, and even if this task force can counter one Privateer Battleship, it cannot counter two.
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2012-02-28, 02:00 | Link #1183 | |
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The fact that Serenity ships are fighting their own suggests its rather likely their government has lost control. So the princess's words may not carry any weight
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2012-02-28, 02:31 | Link #1185 |
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Historians are still working on it (it is harder to do damage reports after the ship is sunk, but not impossible). Chokai's guns can't shoot that far away. It did hit closer in, but their is some evidence that Yamato herself scored a hit as well at range. It would have only been a 18.1" hole going from the deck and though the hull (as it would not have exploded until after it was through the ship and in the water)...but it would be a hit....and much farther than that of Warspite's record hit.
Kurita would have lost more ships and still probably not accomplished his mission if he continued on. Not only would be be subject to more air attack, but part of Oldendorf's battleship fleet was on the way (as was Halsey's but he'd still arrive late), and there were something like 60 destroyers, destroyer escorts and at least one cruiser with the transports. While Yamato is proof against five inch guns...it is not proof against working 21" torpedoes. Especially not over a hundred of them. The Bentenmaru is shown to have three triple turrets, all forward mounted. It is hard to gauge scale at this point but when the Yacht Club was being shadowed, Marika and Chiaki spotted a sensor ghost that read as a battleship. That battleship had a similar configuration as the Bentenmaru. Why Privateers would have a battleship I don't know. It may be a cruiser style ship. It might have large capital scale guns. Depends on just how it became a privateer's ship. The background history we got this episode showed what looked like the Local's navy during the war before they issued Letters of Marque. They look similar to the Bentenmaru in style. The real question would be, what was the Bentenmaru before the war? If she was a traditional Japanese "Maru" , she was a frieghter of some kind. But privateers come in a wide selection of types and origins in real history. Some are coverted freighters or liners. Other are purpose build as warships, just under "civilian" control. It would be the case if the government could not afford to pay to build warships fast enough to send them into the war, but private individuals could afford it, and with a Letter of Marque, make back the money via raiding enemy shipping. Also these ships could have been built for private individuals or companies in foreign ports only to be armed as privateers later (the Confederates did something like this during the Civil War). It also depends on how "easy" it is to adapt a spaceframe for military grade hardware and armor/shielding. It is hard to tell if the Bentenmaru is a purpose built warship or a converted civilian ship...because we don't know the universe all that well.
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2012-02-28, 04:44 | Link #1186 |
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I'm guessing something like a EVE-type battlecruiser. If the Corback is a frigate, and the larger ship class whose name escapes me again a destroyer, then the Ben10maru is 2 classes above the destroyer. (Frigate-->Destroyer-->Cruiser-->Battlecruiser-->Battleship)
Given its trailer performance of armor tanking and flying about, I'd say the Ben10maru has a mix of traits both Odette II and something smaller, hence my guess of battlecruiser.
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2012-02-28, 05:42 | Link #1187 | |
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Bentenmaru's name suggests a civilian merchant ship though....so I'd say a heavily beefed up raider ship, something like a heavy cruiser rather than a full blown battle wagon. Haven't actually seen any capital ships yet so far....
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2012-02-28, 09:25 | Link #1190 |
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Hmm... Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. Maybe all pirate ships are just named starting with B. In that case, the Bentenmaru could've been anything.
That said, I really don't think a rocket and keel surrounded on all sides by pods is the most efficient design in cargo-hauling. How do you unload? That telescoping airlock is kinda small.
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2012-02-28, 09:26 | Link #1191 |
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Wasn't the ghost battleship the probe from the Lightning 11 screwing with the girl's sensors? They were being shadowed by the Lightning 11, Benternmaru and Barbarrosa, and at the start they detected all 3 briefly, but afterwards the 3 did a better job of hiding themselves. They detected the ghost battleship latter, but identified it as a probe acting as a decoy. Lynn later used the probe as one of her EW attack points.
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2012-02-28, 10:52 | Link #1194 |
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@Cosmic: Of late, Momoclo is a potent idol team and managed by a guy who loves pro-wrestling, with steel balls of daring to challenge even AKB48 (and at their home turf).
...And they recently scored an award: http://www.tokyohive.com/2012/02/mom...cd-shop-award/
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2012-02-28, 11:44 | Link #1195 |
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i believe cars in the future will have maybe 10x more power, cant imagine when u go with max speed in an open cover car...
things look serious at the end, finally and that Mugen no Ai PV is the most creative one i have seen this year
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Keep in mind that all of the above were abridged version of the novels, and they all are my take and my unofficial translation. . There's a lot more talking and describing that happened in the novel From the official twitter. it looks like in EP9, Black Holy will be used as guest ED [source]. Also, to be bundled with BD Vol 2 Limited Edition First Printing (Chiaki will be the cover girl). On sale April 11th, the same date as Black Holy. Spoiler:
I uhh.....it's not kawaii at all >.> . Looking at amazon jp , the first Grafig was Hatsune Miku [link], and the cost is about the same as a regular LN Edit: Okay. Who the hell draws Marika for Nyantype?
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2012-02-28, 13:13 | Link #1199 |
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Well, that pretty much tears it. Bentenmaru was a warship. Not a battleship, but still formatible. Plus having that large of a reputation can influence your enemies.
While the sensor shadow was just a probe from the Lightning 11, the data they got from it was from an old battleship. The image that was displayed for us made it look similar to the Bentenmaru. Maybe closer to those other ships seen in the history lesson in this most recent episode.
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