2006-11-30, 08:39 | Link #2006 | |
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Goes to show how much effort baka-tsuki puts into their projects by searching up the Katakana, since they did translate from the Chinese novels. But then again... Endless August sounds too ugly ^^ |
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2006-11-30, 11:57 | Link #2007 |
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Didn't know where to put this question, so here goes...
I know Haruhi's name usually appears as katakana, but on some Chinese sites, they put her name inside the title as: 凉宫春日 From what I can deduce, the bolded part of the name translates roughly as "Haruhi" (with the other two words being Suzumiya, of course), but I wouldn't know if they're just making it up. Can someone confirm if that's her actual name in kanji? Just curious. EDIT: And I had had a scary thought. I've never watched Death Note before, but...imagine if Light Yagami meets Haruhi, figures out what she really is, and decides to use her the way he uses his Death Note by provoking her in the direction he wants her to go. *evil grin* |
2006-11-30, 14:44 | Link #2008 | |
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Do I smell a fanific? |
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2006-11-30, 16:06 | Link #2009 | |
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2006-12-01, 06:50 | Link #2012 |
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As far as I'm concerned, 春日 (pronouced in Chinese as Chun Ri) is juz a really dumb translation for Haruhi. Katakana tends to be translated really badly into Chinese I guess. I really have no idea where they got this. 春日 means spring day. It doesnt make sense and shouldnt. In chinese circles, and in the novel, Haruhi is refered to mostly as 春日. I really dislike this personally.
Unless someone hu understands both Jap and Chinese can confirm that the Katakana for Ha-ru-hi means Spring Day. 凉宫 in Japanese is read as Suzu-miya, but in Chinese it is read as Liang Gong, and roughly means Cooling Palace. So as u can see, they are translating it for translation's sake. It really shouldnt mean anything. Cooling Palace Spring Day doesnt make any sense does it? It even gives me the creeps. I sincerely apologise to anyone who is disturbed by that translation. If there are any other Chinese/Singaporeans hu would like to comment it would really help. Coz I've been getting Cs for Chinese all my life, but that doesnt mean I havent put in effort. Have been studying Chinese all my academic life. |
2006-12-01, 06:57 | Link #2013 | |
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2006-12-01, 08:29 | Link #2014 | ||
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I don't see anything wrong with the translation coming up with 凉宫春日 (Suzu-miya Haru-hi), personally. Remember, even though both Chinese and Japanese use the same kanji, their system of naming isn't quite the same as ours. Or at least, it doesn't have to make the same kind of sense, really. If you're bothered by this, you're just as likely to be bothered by 茂木 夏树 (Mogi Natsuki), 藤原 拓海 (Fujiwara Takumi), 水瀬 名雪 (Minase Nayuki), and so on, and so forth...do these names look like they're supposed to make any kind of sense to you, or at least any kind of sense that you can understand? Heck, even our own Chinese names hardly make sense sometimes, so I wouldn't sweat it too hard. Besides, I feel that 凉宫春日 rolls off the tongue as elegantly in Chinese as it does in Japanese. Should I have a daughter in the future, I would have no problems naming her Chun Ri. Quote:
Wait...I wouldn't be so worried. Kyon did once say (in Snow Mountain Syndrome) that he believes not even a crackpot like Haruhi would wish for someone to die. Besides, if she does want someone to die, she wouldn't need the Death Note anyway. It's more of Light's potential to bring out the darker side in Haruhi that I'd be more worried about. Just imagine, he's a genius. It would be a piece of cake for him to whisper things into Haruhi's ears, and give her some dark ideas - "don't you wish there were no more terrorists in the world", "what if there was no more crime in this world", and give her some ideas? He would have the world he wants, and he wouldn't even have to kill anyone to achieve it. Now THAT is scary. |
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2006-12-01, 08:35 | Link #2015 | |||
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According to the Japanese wikipedia entry of The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi, Tanigawa Nagaru got his inspiration for the three SOS-dan girls from Japanese wartime battleships - the Haruhi (春日), Asahi (朝日) and of course, the Nagato (長門). So Haruhi in kanji IS "Spring Day" (春日), it's just that Haruhi chooses to write it in katakana, and I personally don't see anything wrong with that. I seriously don't understand what you find wrong with her name. I think it's a good name for a girl. Not to mention Haruhi being quite a common girl's name. Her name symbolizes the spring sun coming out of the coldness of winter, which can be seen as a reflection of her optimism in trying hard to find aliens, time travellers and espers. Quote:
Suzumiya is simply a common Japanese surname. I mean, do you go to a Mr Smith and tell him he shouldn't be called Smith because he doesn't look like a Blacksmith? Or a Schumacher that he should either start making shoes or stop using that name? Nobody really looks into the meanings of their surname nowadays, maybe their first names, but not their surnames, as long as their parents don't give them names that end up as silly puns. So "Cooling Palace Spring Day" (涼宮ハルヒ) doesn't exactly mean anything, just as "Long Gate With Hope" (長門有希) doesn't really mean anything, while "Old-Fountain Single-Tree" (古泉一樹)and "Valley-Mouth Flowing" (谷川流)are just names. Even my real name (in Chinese that is) hardly makes sense, but no one's complaining. Quote:
You're definitely thinking too much into this. Please relax, they're just bloody names. |
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2006-12-01, 08:39 | Link #2016 | |
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Ah, yes, indeed... Who needs the DeathNote when you can kill billions by winking a world out of existence? XD Come on, it'll take more than genius to sway Haruhi.. As it is, I foresee her forcing Light to don a Bunny-Suit and distribute flyers at the school gate. *thinks of the Haruhi undressing Mikuru scene*
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2006-12-01, 09:11 | Link #2017 |
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In the Taiwan broadcasted version of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's, Hayate's name, 疾風 (pronounced jí fēng in chinese), was changed to 哈雅貼 to sound like the japanese pronunciation. Many fans were... not exactly pleased. :x
Would you have prefered it if the chinese name for Haruhi to be something like... 哈如希 ? p.s. My chinese grades are horible as well. :x |
2006-12-01, 11:48 | Link #2018 |
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I shudder at the thought of "Ha-Ru-Xi" being pronounced in cheesy mandarin. I bet even the voice actors would have preferred the kanji names. |
2006-12-02, 22:32 | Link #2020 |
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Anyway YES... I would take 春日anyday over 哈如希 (WHAT THE FUCK), and yes Liang Gong Chun Ri flows nicely in chinese. Its juz that I dislike how Chun Ri omits the trademark red H in the romanji Haruhi. |
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