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Wesley84 · 2008-06-22, 02:23

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Originally Posted by Same_Shark

I'm think you're reading too much into that. There was nothing there saying that lesbians are mainstream, although they are cool. I love gays and lesbians!!

The quote of myself was over concerns of yuri being tossed into the series. Orion seems to think it's likely to happen and seems to imply that yuri in these kinds of shows is mainstream, which is what i'm afraid of.

Since it's Gonzo though, maybe there's a chance it won't be. In my experience, they generally aren't explicit in the gayness of characters, or even like to imply stuff really.

orion · 2008-06-22, 09:18

Actually I was thinking the opposite. Sorry for the misunderstanding. The only thing in the OVA was an implication of peaking at underpants.

No. Yuri and yaoi are not mainstream in R1. That's why I think that this series won't have it in there or at such an extremely low level that you would have to interpret it at that. Though being named after famous aces would prob get some of the surviving families upset if they heard that their names got tarnished. The OVA even documents that males exist in that world.

I'm hoping that it's all about the dogfights. We haven't had a good anime with dogfights since Last Exile.

Onizuka-GTO · 2008-06-22, 10:31

im with you. i love the design of mecha musume and hsving wwII style dogfights just makes it better.

hell i hope the TANK Mecha girls get some lime light too.

*root for UK tank girl*

yay.

:P

Kuroi Cosmo · 2008-06-22, 13:00

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Originally Posted by orion

Though being named after famous aces would prob get some of the surviving families upset if they heard that their names got tarnished.

Lol

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Originally Posted by orion

The OVA even documents that males exist in that world

Rotfl

Seriously, I didn't know that AS was so full of homophobes

Wesley84 · 2008-06-22, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

im with you. i love the design of mecha musume and hsving wwII style dogfights just makes it better.

hell i hope the TANK Mecha girls get some lime light too.

*root for UK tank girl*

yay.

:P

Why hold back? Battleship Musume all the way!

narmi · 2008-06-22, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

The problem I had with Sky Girls is that it got the Girls part down, but not so much the sky.

True they didn't put enough emphasize on flying. For someone like me who loves flying; it was a "small" let down but I still enjoyed it.

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Originally Posted by Sacchin

This caught my interest. I love Sky Girls btw, and so I'll be adding this to my waiting list of must watch animes.

And I'm a sucker when it comes to lolis

That's good and you will have fun with the "loli" fanservice.

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Originally Posted by Siegel Clyne

I suspected that the Strike Witches TV anime would follow in the footsteps of other GONZO anime productions, ...
According to GONZO parent company GDH, the 1-cour, 12-episode Strike Witches television anime series will be offered to viewers overseas on YouTube and crunchyroll.

Heh Gonzo has an reputation of messing up adaptations for mangas into animes however I have hopes for Gonzo. Besides that I'm happy that they are going to allow the series to be shown online

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orion · 2008-06-22, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Cosmo

Lol
Rotfl
Seriously, I didn't know that AS was so full of homophobes

Not homophobic here. The only series that had lesbian context that FUNi licensed was Burnt Angel. Bandai Ent's version is My-Hime/Otome. In R1, yuri and yaoi goes to Media Blasters, receives a sub only release for the most part and never sees the light of day on TV.

So if you're Gonzo and you know what happens in R1, would you do something that's going to decrease your income?

Also, if any of those heroes weren't homosexual in reality, then their families may have a problem if it gets back to them.

JagdPanther · 2008-06-22, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

im with you. i love the design of mecha musume and hsving wwII style dogfights just makes it better.

hell i hope the TANK Mecha girls get some lime light too.

*root for UK tank girl*

yay.

:P

I love those things. I have a few and they're soooooooo cute.

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Cosmo

Seriously, I didn't know that AS was so full of homophobes

Not really homophobic as much as I would rather them be straight. Is that too much to ask?

Kuroi Cosmo · 2008-06-22, 14:43

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Originally Posted by orion

Also, if any of those heroes weren't homosexual in reality, then their families may have a problem if it gets back to them.

So transforming the real people into kemonomini moe lolis is ok, but made them gay is insulting them... yeah very open minded of you

orion · 2008-06-22, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Cosmo

So transforming the real people into kemonomini moe lolis is ok, but made them gay is insulting them... yeah very open minded of you

Why thank you. I do try to be open-minded.

Making something gay which is not would be an insult. That type of an insult is done a lot in reality. These girls are moe personifications of weapons so far until we see how the male members of the camp are interacting with them. (Not too many people would want to have a relationship with an aircraft carrier or a tank.)

Wesley84 · 2008-06-22, 20:29

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Originally Posted by orion

Why thank you. I do try to be open-minded.

Making something gay which is not would be an insult. That type of an insult is done a lot in reality. These girls are moe personifications of weapons so far until we see how the male members of the camp are interacting with them. (Not too many people would want to have a relationship with an aircraft carrier or a tank.)

The question is if there are even going to be male characters.

orion · 2008-06-22, 20:41

Well the support team in the OVA was male. So there has to be some guys there anyways in a small number because this is moe otaku fodder (primary) and military (secondary).

Wesley84 · 2008-06-22, 21:25

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Originally Posted by orion

Well the support team in the OVA was male. So there has to be some guys there anyways in a small number because this is moe otaku fodder (primary) and military (secondary).

They were practically faceless, which would be fine if it was an H-game, but I doubt we'll see any of the girls showing any interest in the opposite sex.

orion · 2008-06-22, 22:31

This is a moe and military title so I'm not expecting any full blown romances (it would go against "moe") and in a 9 minute OVA you're not going to see unique supporting male characters. However, they could and should show up in a series. They have to drawn in female viewers also.

Kuroi Cosmo · 2008-06-23, 02:24

Listen guys, nobody is saying that this will be a yuri show, there's not a chance, so don't worry.

However, since the main characters are 11 girls and 0 guys, it's probable that at least ONE of them will have some yuri tendencies, or at the very least some subtext.
This happens almost always in shows with an all-female cast, didn't you know it? First time watching anime?

Anyway, all I'm reading from this topic is many users who cannot accept homosexuality crying out loud "Oh my God, if there's even one gay girl in this show I'm gonna die. All the fags must burn in hell!!!", which is quite ridicolous.

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Originally Posted by orion

Making something gay which is not would be an insult. That type of an insult is done a lot in reality.

That's because you start from the idea that being gay is something bad... that's why I'm calling you homophobe

I'd suggest you a time machine to return to the Medieval Age

Jiyuu · 2008-06-23, 06:36

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That's because you start from the idea that being gay is something bad... that's why I'm calling you homophobe
I'd suggest you a time machine to return to the Medieval Age

not him,
the people who's names are used might think that way..

orion · 2008-06-23, 14:35

And since these are historic figures, GONZO will have a problem if the families get upset. It also can be seen as a loss of income for the estate of that historic figure if the rep of the historic figure is tarnished to an extent that no other company would touch the historic figure.

Besides people in unisex squadrons in real life tend to have heterosexual tendencies. It shouldn't be a stretch for anime to mirror real life.

phishn37 · 2008-06-23, 16:57

I personally don't want it to not be a yuri or shojo-ai show because I'm a homophobe, which I try my best not to be, but because it's so common that it's used to make money off of a certain fanbase. Many shows that push those things focus on that aspect, so the romance takes center stage over other interesting ideas that may be exitsing in the background. I think the idea of this show looks really cool, and that's why I want to watch it, and if there's a little yuri in there I won't complain ~ ! I only want to make sure that it doesn't cover all of the other potentially good ideas that this show can offer.

Wesley84 · 2008-06-23, 18:16

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Originally Posted by phishn37

I personally don't want it to not be a yuri or shojo-ai show because I'm a homophobe, which I try my best not to be, but because it's so common that it's used to make money off of a certain fanbase. Many shows that push those things focus on that aspect, so the romance takes center stage over other interesting ideas that may be exitsing in the background. I think the idea of this show looks really cool, and that's why I want to watch it, and if there's a little yuri in there I won't complain ~ ! I only want to make sure that it doesn't cover all of the other potentially good ideas that this show can offer.

So you want it to have yuri because you're a "homophobe"?

phishn37 · 2008-06-23, 22:28

^ Um, maybe I didn't explain this enough...

What I mean is, if there's a bit of yuri, it's okay, but I hope they don't overdo it just to sell better. I'm not saying that because I'm a homophobe (which I am not-- I don't think I made that clear ~ !), but just because I don't like excess fanservice in an otherwise good show.

I hope that cleared it up slightly!

2008-06-22, 09:18	Link #42
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	Actually I was thinking the opposite. Sorry for the misunderstanding. The only thing in the OVA was an implication of peaking at underpants. No. Yuri and yaoi are not mainstream in R1. That's why I think that this series won't have it in there or at such an extremely low level that you would have to interpret it at that. Though being named after famous aces would prob get some of the surviving families upset if they heard that their names got tarnished. The OVA even documents that males exist in that world. I'm hoping that it's all about the dogfights. We haven't had a good anime with dogfights since Last Exile. __________________ Last edited by orion; 2008-06-22 at 09:41.

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Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	im with you. i love the design of mecha musume and hsving wwII style dogfights just makes it better. hell i hope the TANK Mecha girls get some lime light too. *root for UK tank girl* yay. :P __________________

2008-06-22, 20:41	Link #52
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	Well the support team in the OVA was male. So there has to be some guys there anyways in a small number because this is moe otaku fodder (primary) and military (secondary). __________________

2008-06-22, 22:31	Link #54
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	This is a moe and military title so I'm not expecting any full blown romances (it would go against "moe") and in a 9 minute OVA you're not going to see unique supporting male characters. However, they could and should show up in a series. They have to drawn in female viewers also. __________________

2008-06-23, 14:35	Link #57
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	And since these are historic figures, GONZO will have a problem if the families get upset. It also can be seen as a loss of income for the estate of that historic figure if the rep of the historic figure is tarnished to an extent that no other company would touch the historic figure. Besides people in unisex squadrons in real life tend to have heterosexual tendencies. It shouldn't be a stretch for anime to mirror real life. __________________

2008-06-23, 16:57	Link #58
phishn37 Time to fly ~ ! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA	I personally don't want it to not be a yuri or shojo-ai show because I'm a homophobe, which I try my best not to be, but because it's so common that it's used to make money off of a certain fanbase. Many shows that push those things focus on that aspect, so the romance takes center stage over other interesting ideas that may be exitsing in the background. I think the idea of this show looks really cool, and that's why I want to watch it, and if there's a little yuri in there I won't complain ~ ! I only want to make sure that it doesn't cover all of the other potentially good ideas that this show can offer.

2008-06-23, 22:28	Link #60
phishn37 Time to fly ~ ! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA	^ Um, maybe I didn't explain this enough... What I mean is, if there's a bit of yuri, it's okay, but I hope they don't overdo it just to sell better. I'm not saying that because I'm a homophobe (which I am not-- I don't think I made that clear ~ !), but just because I don't like excess fanservice in an otherwise good show. I hope that cleared it up slightly!