[Manga] Naruto Chapter 690 Discussion Thread

[james0246]

Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter as well as discussion of said chapter once it has been released.

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It was all a genjutus, and Sakura is actually dead in a ditch...that seems like the most likely outcome for the eventual spoilers...

[QS_Bilal]

Hopefully this chapter is worthwhile.. been waiting anxiously (the ANBU anime arc pumped me up for this!)

@james0246.. Sakura dead in a ditch doesn't sound too bad..lol

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by QS_Bilal

@james0246.. Sakura dead in a ditch doesn't sound too bad..lol

Agreed Sound's pretty good to me.

[Om Nerabdator]

scratch my last comment, just remembered im not suppose to ask that question

[jmacintosh]

is this an off week for the manga?

[Crimson Reaper]

Okay I'm not 100% on this but this is what I believe is happening in Japan right now over Jump. The government is finally taking action over early releases and they are doing this by going to the source. By that I mean that issues of Jump are normally delivered to stores a few days ahead of the official release date which is Monday so they remain in stock. This is where the scans come from. By stopping or delaying these early deliveries they hope people will just buy the magazine rather then view free scans. All this means is that we will get scans on Mondays or Tuesdays instead of Wednesday/Thursday. Again I will repeat that I'm not 100% on this.

[jmacintosh]

I saw the 689.5 color edition thing out there, and was wondering if that was it for the week.

[milan kyuubi]

Originally Posted by Crimson Reaper

Okay I'm not 100% on this but this is what I believe is happening in Japan right now over Jump. The government is finally taking action over early releases and they are doing this by going to the source. By that I mean that issues of Jump are normally delivered to stores a few days ahead of the official release date which is Monday so they remain in stock. This is where the scans come from. By stopping or delaying these early deliveries they hope people will just buy the magazine rather then view free scans. All this means is that we will get scans on Mondays or Tuesdays instead of Wednesday/Thursday. Again I will repeat that I'm not 100% on this.

I second this!

Due to new anti-piracy policy in Japan, chapter will likely be delayed this week as well as in the weeks to follow.

Bummer!

[The Green One]

And it only took them 690 chapters to figure out how to stop the piracy!

[sayde]

I don't think this will really feel like its making an impact in the long run. I mean sure we have to wait a little longer to see the chapter this week. But once that's done, we'll still be back to waiting the usual 7 days for new chapters. We'll just probably be getting those chapters on a different day of the week from now on (as Crimson Reaper inferred). No big deal really.

I personally hope that whatever impact this does make financially is enough to appease those in charge of developing these laws from coming up with more drastic counter measures. But time will tell.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by sayde

I don't think this will really feel like its making an impact in the long run. I mean sure we have to wait a little longer to see the chapter this week. But once that's done, we'll still be back to waiting the usual 7 days for new chapters. We'll just probably be getting those chapters on a different day of the week from now on (as Crimson Reaper inferred). No big deal really.

I personally hope that whatever impact this does make financially is enough to appease those in charge of developing these laws from coming up with more drastic counter measures. But time will tell.

I hope it helps too, but really the answer is to release them in other countries in other languages at the same time. or simply release an online translated version that people can pay a lower monthly fee for website membership (since we wouldn't get the physical book). it's not rocket science. i dont see why they dont get it

[GDB]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

I hope it helps too, but really the answer is to release them in other countries in other languages at the same time. or simply release an online translated version that people can pay a lower monthly fee for website membership (since we wouldn't get the physical book). it's not rocket science. i dont see why they dont get it

Except what we're experiencing right now releasing in other countries at the same time wouldn't affect. The whole point is that raws aren't available because they're cracking down on street date breakers, meaning we had been getting it earlier than Japan. That's an even worse position to be in for them than normal, because it's literally the "pirates" getting a product, for free, before paying customers.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by GDB

Except what we're experiencing right now releasing in other countries at the same time wouldn't affect. The whole point is that raws aren't available because they're cracking down on street date breakers, meaning we had been getting it earlier than Japan. That's an even worse position to be in for them than normal, because it's literally the "pirates" getting a product, for free, before paying customers.

ok sure. this should have never been happening in the first place. i wasn't even aware of it frankly. but that said, they should still release the mangas on the release date to everyone online at a price. the extra income would more than pay for the extra staff to do it

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

I hope it helps too, but really the answer is to release them in other countries in other languages at the same time. or simply release an online translated version that people can pay a lower monthly fee for website membership (since we wouldn't get the physical book). it's not rocket science. i dont see why they dont get it

Business people never get it because they are happy with the status quo. If things change they may be knocked out of their business by new competitors or simply earn much less if in our new digital world authors realize they could get more percentage of the income. It took a Steve Jobs to make of music a digital product for the masses and he was a really agressive and rich innovator. I'm sure if Jump was available digitally to 7 billion humans on earth for some reasonable monthly payment on some digital platform they would have a larger income than they have now. But i guess the manga industry is just like the music and movie industries, they fear that a larger part of their income might then go to the digital distributors and other companies. Personally i would pay a monthly fee or something similar if it was available in real time for an iPad with high resolution that would look really great on a retina display. That would probably be the closest to buying an actual printed manga.

[Crimson Reaper]

I'm with you guys in that Jump would indeed be better off if they provided a subscription or pay by the issue online release, if only in just the English language. But since I have no experience in marketing or business I can't really see the reasons they wouldn't at least try. Maybe they don't realise how big a foreign fan base they could benefit from? My best guess as to why they wouldn't even try this is because of Viz. They made a Contract with them saying they have exclusive rights to make translated versions of Naruto, etc right? So maybe Jump can't release their own translated version because that would violate the contract agreement? Again I have no experience in business or law, this is just my own uninformed guess. I gladly defer to those here who have actual experience in those areas.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by QS_Bilal

Hopefully this chapter is worthwhile.. been waiting anxiously (the ANBU anime arc pumped me up for this!)

What?!

Pfffttt hahahaha!


Too good to be real. Must be another genjutsu.

[DKN117]

So exactly how late do we expect new chapters now? Friday? Saturday/Sunday? A whole damn week after their Japan release (i.e., still on Tuesday/Wednesday but seven days after Japan gets it)?

[GDB]

Originally Posted by DKN117

So exactly how late do we expect new chapters now? Friday? Saturday/Sunday? A whole damn week after their Japan release (i.e., still on Tuesday/Wednesday but seven days after Japan gets it)?

We used to get it early. 5 days early. So don't expect it until next Monday, considering that's when it comes out in Japan. But it won't be "a whole damn week after".

[karice67]

Originally Posted by Crimson Reaper

I'm with you guys in that Jump would indeed be better off if they provided a subscription or pay by the issue online release, if only in just the English language. But since I have no experience in marketing or business I can't really see the reasons they wouldn't at least try. Maybe they don't realise how big a foreign fan base they could benefit from? My best guess as to why they wouldn't even try this is because of Viz. They made a Contract with them saying they have exclusive rights to make translated versions of Naruto, etc right? So maybe Jump can't release their own translated version because that would violate the contract agreement? Again I have no experience in business or law, this is just my own uninformed guess. I gladly defer to those here who have actual experience in those areas.

Yeah, since Viz has the rights for the English translation, they're the ones who do it. And they do release the English version on the same day each week as the Japanese one - except that it's only for North America, Australia and the UK (I think).

As for Japanese digital editions...I've had a look, but can't find anything that's a same day release. It seems like they still prefer people buying the print edition.

[Ulquiorra]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

ok sure. this should have never been happening in the first place. i wasn't even aware of it frankly. but that said, they should still release the mangas on the release date to everyone online at a price. the extra income would more than pay for the extra staff to do it

Japan only cares about Japanese sales. They finally went hard after the pirates when they saw the decreased sales from Japanese manga to Japanese customers. It finally occurred to them that Japanese fans were also just reading the scans and not buying the entire book. The government doesn't care that foreigners have been reading Japanese manga for free since forever.

Sure, it would be good business for something like Shueisha to setup a worldwide distribution and release their content digitally at the same time as their domestic release. With international properties such as Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece, they could make a huge profit at very little expense. But the Japanese manga business is very entrenched in the old school way they operate. They don't see the big picture and prefer to license their work or buy into companies like Viz(Shueisha are co-owners) to handle international releases, days to weeks after the manga has been released in Japan.