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Flower · 2013-12-21, 00:29

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Zankoku12 · 2013-12-21, 08:32

I was expecting to enjoy anime-only viewer's "WTF" reaction with this episode but I got WTFed too so........ WTF!?

Meltyred · 2013-12-21, 11:00

Meh... expected this coming...
Wasn't as emotional as previous episode

Aspirety · 2013-12-21, 12:13

This episode benefited Rin a LOT. And man, that accident was fucking brutal...

taichi-kun · 2013-12-21, 13:45

masato and kengo were two heroes T.T

Narzia · 2013-12-21, 15:27

All in all, this was a very nice episode.

They showed the actual crash and not just the aftermath, which I was hoping they would as I wanted to see more of that event, and more of the Little Busters in the real world. I wanted a brutal scene with impact (does that make me a sadist?) and they certainly delivered.
I'm also happy they explained Kyousuke's presence on the bus. But what about Haruka?

They also went into a bit more detail concerning Rin's past that left her traumatized to begin with, which has been bothering me since it was first mentioned. It's noteworthy, as I didn't expect them to explain anything at all at this point, though to be honest I still have no idea what actually happened to her. The sequence was scary enough and reminded me of the one with Miyuki on the roof (no idea what was going on there either) in episode 25.

As for Rin's spiritual trip... I have no idea what happened there. Were those the actual people? Or only Komari? How could that happened now that the dream world is gone? And then Komari's ribbon starts to glow and Rin turns Super Saiyan.. what?
Nonetheless, the massive development for Rin is of course welcome, even if it was rather late.

At any rate, as suspected it looks like it will be a happy ending after all. Depending on the amount of people still alive it looks like they have one hell of a task ahead, as I seriously doubt they're just going to ignore everyone who is not a Little Buster like poor Suginami next to Kud.

Or the bus driver.

ChampDream · 2013-12-21, 16:38

it was a nice episode. it show how much Rin has grow thanks to her friends and it look like she will save everyone.

Magicflier · 2013-12-21, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Narzia

I'm also happy they explained Kyousuke's presence on the bus. But what about Haruka?

As I mentioned in the last episode discussion thread, it's easy to guess why Haruka's reason why she escaped her own class. Rewatch her arc from the first season if you don't remember. Another hint: Her regret was solved in the dream world, but it's still a problem in the real world. So I wonder why she didn't want to stay with her own class? Do you remember what her regret was?

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Originally Posted by Narzia

They also went into a bit more detail concerning Rin's past that left her traumatized to begin with, which has been bothering me since it was first mentioned. It's noteworthy, as I didn't expect them to explain anything at all at this point, though to be honest I still have no idea what actually happened to her. The sequence was scary enough and reminded me of the one with Miyuki on the roof (no idea what was going on there either) in episode 25.

About Rin's past and Miyuki's situation. It wasn't explained in the anime, but the visual novel has details for both. If your interested in hearing non-anime related details, I could fill you in, or you could ask some other vn reader.

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Originally Posted by Narzia

As for Rin's spiritual trip... I have no idea what happened there. Were those the actual people? Or only Komari? How could that happened now that the dream world is gone? And then Komari's ribbon starts to glow and Rin turns Super Saiyan.. what?
Nonetheless, the massive development for Rin is of course welcome, even if it was rather late.

Komari still kept the dream barely up even after Kyousuke left, as Komari implied when she said "Actually, I was suppose to go a long time ago..."
The scene with Rin and her super saiyan thing was really unnecessary and exaggerated, LOL. Ignore it, it'll hurt your head.

Rin's spiritual trip was probably reality-mixed memories of everybody that has left the dream world.

ThereminVox · 2013-12-21, 19:38

I feel a little less irritated by Rin's cardboard role in the last episode since they seem to be going in a direction where she will get to be the big damn hero in the end. Also, giving her some moments with the girls was welcome, if not downright needed, since none of them had really gotten the spotlight this season.

The pacing feels a bit strange to me at the moment. I mean, that ostensibly impending gas explosion is being downright accommodating to meaningful epiphanies at this point. But hell, I can't think of a better way to do it without shortchanging all of the girls, Rin included.

I still don't like Kyousuke's chances, but it sounds like there may be hope for the rest of them yet, which is better than the prognosis they left us with last week.

Shana-tan · 2013-12-21, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narzia

They also went into a bit more detail concerning Rin's past that left her traumatized to begin with, which has been bothering me since it was first mentioned. It's noteworthy, as I didn't expect them to explain anything at all at this point, though to be honest I still have no idea what actually happened to her. The sequence was scary enough

Anime-only here, because I couldn't play the VN with my old laptop... is it what I think it is...? If so I will burn Key...

Dark Faith · 2013-12-21, 20:18

Huh.. that ending scene was strange.. but it was a good Rin episode. God knows she needed that development.

Leo_Otaku · 2013-12-21, 22:22

Alright so thank god they included what I wanted them to. I still have a bit of issues of how the accident played out, but that is being me. Still they did a pretty good job and improved on many points.

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Originally Posted by Narzia

I wanted a brutal scene with impact (does that make me a sadist?) and they certainly delivered.

I was in the same boat. Except I wanted a bit more like some screaming, but maybe everyone got knocked out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shana-tan

Anime-only here, because I couldn't play the VN with my old laptop... is it what I think it is...? If so I will burn Key...

In the novel they never mentioned what happened to her. Which is odd. So ,rest assured nobody has any real idea.

Yye1 · 2013-12-22, 01:37

oh wow... that was a pretty good episode, and it really explored more about rin

~Yami~ · 2013-12-22, 03:19

next episode is the last???? really??

finally..... Rin showed some response... and got huge development
it's like finally she's being honest with herself
her situation is little lame comparing to other girls but since she's the one who learned most, she's worth to be main girl in LB
and seeing the girls once more.... ah... that peaceful feelings
well, I don't mind Rin X Komari

time to put on some Key's magic? I truly hope there's some sequence about Riki and Rin living together first though (but it will be too late to save the students)

well, I hope we won't get any bloody sequence of any LB's members... it will break viewers' pure heart

novalysis · 2013-12-22, 09:09

It might have been better had these scenes been scattered all throughout the adaptation after the completion of each girl's routes (with the exception of Kurugaya,for obvious reasons), as Komari's promise had been.

But other than that, this has been a surprisingly intelligent adaptation of a rather weakly written section of the VN (besides Komari's farewell, which was really strongly done in the original too). Shame that the girls have been grossly short changed, and could not part together just like the boys.

And now, for some Key Magic to save the day. (Although a little bit of courage (and friendship) is the true magic when it comes to Little Busters, I suspect).

zerodragon · 2013-12-22, 13:25

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

well, I hope we won't get any bloody sequence of any LB's members... it will break viewers' pure heart

well with how brutal that crash was, most of them are going to be hurt badly with all of the blood shown already. if they get just a few injuries is better than them dying unless they change it so it never happen.

Randrak42 · 2013-12-22, 15:45

Spoiler for Scene from the VN they skipped in the anime:

Julio C · 2013-12-22, 19:09

I just want to confirmed one thing. Everything that has happened previously so far was all in a fantasy world right? So does that mean that the original Little Busters gang never made friends with the other five girls in real life?

BTW, that crash scene was so surreal, it felt like it you were there, very brutal.

Triple_R · 2013-12-22, 20:26

This might sound cold, but... she's not going to actually save them all, is she?

I have to be honest, I would find that very, very cheap.

Monoriu · 2013-12-22, 20:52

Am I the only one who is a little disturbed by the fact that there was no attempt to call the emergency services? Did I miss it?

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2013-12-21, 12:13	Link #4
Aspirety Voyager Witch Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Otowa, Australia Age: 32	This episode benefited Rin a LOT. And man, that accident was fucking brutal... __________________

2013-12-21, 16:38	Link #7
ChampDream Alive Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: in my really nice house	it was a nice episode. it show how much Rin has grow thanks to her friends and it look like she will save everyone. __________________

2013-12-22, 01:37	Link #13
Yye1 Wide Right Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Edmonton, Canada	oh wow... that was a pretty good episode, and it really explored more about rin __________________ Don’t you open your mouth about the best. Or I’m ma shut it for you real quick. - Richard Sherman "Me and my girlfreinds are goin to go see Sex and the City." We're like: "Great! Now i dont have to take you to see that shit!" -The Great Philosopher Chris Rock

2013-12-22, 15:45	Link #17
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Spoiler for Scene from the VN they skipped in the anime: I want my hospital scene...how could they just up and skip the hospital scene and go straight to the wish? I WANT MY HOSPITAL SCENE DAMMIT!

2013-12-21, 08:32	Link #2
Zankoku12 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	I was expecting to enjoy anime-only viewer's "WTF" reaction with this episode but I got WTFed too so........ WTF!?

2013-12-21, 11:00	Link #3
Meltyred Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Meh... expected this coming... Wasn't as emotional as previous episode

2013-12-21, 13:45	Link #5
taichi-kun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	masato and kengo were two heroes T.T

2013-12-21, 15:27	Link #6
Narzia ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Eden Hall	All in all, this was a very nice episode. They showed the actual crash and not just the aftermath, which I was hoping they would as I wanted to see more of that event, and more of the Little Busters in the real world. I wanted a brutal scene with impact (does that make me a sadist?) and they certainly delivered. I'm also happy they explained Kyousuke's presence on the bus. But what about Haruka? They also went into a bit more detail concerning Rin's past that left her traumatized to begin with, which has been bothering me since it was first mentioned. It's noteworthy, as I didn't expect them to explain anything at all at this point, though to be honest I still have no idea what actually happened to her. The sequence was scary enough and reminded me of the one with Miyuki on the roof (no idea what was going on there either) in episode 25. As for Rin's spiritual trip... I have no idea what happened there. Were those the actual people? Or only Komari? How could that happened now that the dream world is gone? And then Komari's ribbon starts to glow and Rin turns Super Saiyan.. what? Nonetheless, the massive development for Rin is of course welcome, even if it was rather late. At any rate, as suspected it looks like it will be a happy ending after all. Depending on the amount of people still alive it looks like they have one hell of a task ahead, as I seriously doubt they're just going to ignore everyone who is not a Little Buster like poor Suginami next to Kud. Or the bus driver.

2013-12-21, 19:38	Link #9
ThereminVox Guess what time it is? Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Age: 38	I feel a little less irritated by Rin's cardboard role in the last episode since they seem to be going in a direction where she will get to be the big damn hero in the end. Also, giving her some moments with the girls was welcome, if not downright needed, since none of them had really gotten the spotlight this season. The pacing feels a bit strange to me at the moment. I mean, that ostensibly impending gas explosion is being downright accommodating to meaningful epiphanies at this point. But hell, I can't think of a better way to do it without shortchanging all of the girls, Rin included. I still don't like Kyousuke's chances, but it sounds like there may be hope for the rest of them yet, which is better than the prognosis they left us with last week.

2013-12-21, 20:18	Link #11
Dark Faith Often Disappointed Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Portugal Age: 37	Huh.. that ending scene was strange.. but it was a good Rin episode. God knows she needed that development.

2013-12-22, 03:19	Link #14
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	next episode is the last???? really?? finally..... Rin showed some response... and got huge development it's like finally she's being honest with herself her situation is little lame comparing to other girls but since she's the one who learned most, she's worth to be main girl in LB and seeing the girls once more.... ah... that peaceful feelings well, I don't mind Rin X Komari time to put on some Key's magic? I truly hope there's some sequence about Riki and Rin living together first though (but it will be too late to save the students) well, I hope we won't get any bloody sequence of any LB's members... it will break viewers' pure heart

2013-12-22, 09:09	Link #15
novalysis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	It might have been better had these scenes been scattered all throughout the adaptation after the completion of each girl's routes (with the exception of Kurugaya,for obvious reasons), as Komari's promise had been. But other than that, this has been a surprisingly intelligent adaptation of a rather weakly written section of the VN (besides Komari's farewell, which was really strongly done in the original too). Shame that the girls have been grossly short changed, and could not part together just like the boys. And now, for some Key Magic to save the day. (Although a little bit of courage (and friendship) is the true magic when it comes to Little Busters, I suspect).

2013-12-22, 19:09	Link #18
Julio C Bury My Shell Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Santa Barbara	I just want to confirmed one thing. Everything that has happened previously so far was all in a fantasy world right? So does that mean that the original Little Busters gang never made friends with the other five girls in real life? BTW, that crash scene was so surreal, it felt like it you were there, very brutal.

2013-12-22, 20:26	Link #19
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	This might sound cold, but... she's not going to actually save them all, is she? I have to be honest, I would find that very, very cheap. __________________

2013-12-22, 20:52	Link #20
Monoriu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013	Am I the only one who is a little disturbed by the fact that there was no attempt to call the emergency services? Did I miss it?