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Ithekro · 2012-04-05, 11:32

http://yamato2199.net/character.html

Character update again. (I imagine there will be more all over that site in the next few days)

Seven more characters.

Mamoru Kodai (Alex Wildstar) - Captain of the Destroyer Yukikaze
Ryu Hijikata (Captain Gideon) - At UNCF Headqarters
Heikuro Todo (EDF Commander Singleton) - At UNCF Headquarters
Kotetsu Serizawa (General Stone) - At UNCF Headquarters <---finally got a Japanese name!
Osamu Yamanami - Captain of the Battleship Kirishima
Analyzer/AU9 (IQ9) - robot, "genius".....lecher
Starsha - Queen of Iscandar

Roger Rambo · 2012-04-05, 13:08

We finally got a good look at Starsha when she's not dead.

They're putting allot more emphasis into making her seem uncannily graceful. Compared to the human female cast, you get more of a feeling that she probably is an alien of some kind. Her expression is interesting to, making her seem like a strange but ultimately sympathetic character.

We also have more old men. But none of them have the sheer facial hair power that the good ole captain has, so they're probably only going to be of marginal importance

Though I do wonder what Cosmo Force general Kotetsu (Stone) has to do in this kind of situation. The Gamilon are taking the very economical approach and bombing humanity with planet bombs in a war of attrition. Not allot of use for ground pounders in this situation. Though I suppose he could be in charge of ground based planetary defenses and fortifications.

Ithekro · 2012-04-05, 13:44

After a little more work I have some more avatars (but not Avatar)

- Science Division Uniform (Female)

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RRW · 2012-04-05, 13:46

i guess you dont mind if i change it again

Ithekro · 2012-04-05, 13:56

Not at all. Yamato is the star after all. I cleaned them up to be used.

As for General Serizawa (Stone), my guess is that they use to put up a fight on the various colony worlds, both before the Gamilons came and afterwards. They've been at war with the Gamilons for at least eight years (just the planet bombing for eight years), and if the Cosmo Navy has lasted that long, one imagines there have been some altercations with the Gamilons over bases throughout the Solar System.

I mean Earth had to be able to capture Gamilon tech to the point they could almost duplicate for at least the weapons systems in even a retrofit fleet they sent to Pluto.

As for the idea of the First Fleet stopping the Gamilons at Earth. Judging by the surface of the planet...they aren't really able to stop the planet bombs. Though they must have been able to provide more that token resistance if they are still around after eight or more years of fighting and eight years of planet bombing.

calubin_175 · 2012-04-05, 18:47

According to Starsha's profile, 1 year ago (2188), she sent to Earth her youngest sister Yurisha to deliver the plans for the wave motion engine. A year after that, she sends Sasha to deliver the wave motion engine core, a component that could not be built on Earth.

Most likely Yurisha's dead as well.

Compared to the original 1973 version, in 2199, they depicted Sasha's death with her resting in the capsule, like a coffin, as opposed to attempting to get out and collapsing, assuming that she might have sustained some injuries before.

I got into the original Yamato back in early 2010 along with every other Leiji Matsumoto production. Glad that it is reviving after two mediocre modern films, Fukkatsu Hen and the live action.

Funny thing is, much like back in the 70s, they still never gave names for the classes of ships on the EDF side. They've only listed the Kirishima, Murasame and Yukikaze as specific ships of their respective lines. On the other hand, the Gamilus side actually have names for their classes.

Many of the older descriptions didn't have a class name, it was just simply Battleship(Senkan), Cruiser(Junyoukan) and Destroyer(Kuchikkan), and some of the one-off appearance ships were named after their captian. So Okita's unique ship onscreen at the Battle of Pluto was just called Okita's ship. Similarly, Gamilus Admiral Schultz had a unique ship back then and it was just called the Schultz ship, now in 2199 it is classed as a Dreadnought. Back in the Playstation games it was a Battleship Class.

Ithekro · 2012-04-05, 18:54

In the original pilot for the 1974 version of the show, they show what happened to Sasha when her capsule landed. It landed hard and spun like a top. During this the hatch opened and flung her out (possibly the door ripping across her back as she left). She likely died from the impact. If not she was unconscious and sufficated before Kodai and Shima found her.

Pilot episode = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyjza0fwbjc (We've come a long ways since 1974)

However having yet another sister is new. Also having the plans eariler is also new.

However Earth must have figured out to make more Wave Motion Engines afterward...or else they wouldn't have a wave motion gun equipped fleet in 2201.

(Well a Dreadnought is just another name for a Battleship...it just usually implies that it is bigger than the normal battleships. Based off the HMS Dreadnought that revolutionized naval warfare and made all prior battleships obsolete...including all the many, many British Battleships, and thus allowing everyone else to catch up....opps. Yamato herself was a several generations of design beyond a classic Dreadnought.)

Ithekro · 2012-04-06, 02:06

Now with subtitles:
(Both in English and Portuguese)
(You have to turn on the Close Captioning)

(Hurry Star Force. There is only 1 day left....)

calubin_175 · 2012-04-06, 02:18

There are some spoilers from this website originating from production documents.

http://blogiscandar.project2199.com/...g-post_31.html

The document was actually auctioned for 5000yen
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m99428387

Spoiler for On Yurisha:

Roger Rambo · 2012-04-06, 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithekro

As for General Serizawa (Stone), my guess is that they use to put up a fight on the various colony worlds, both before the Gamilons came and afterwards. They've been at war with the Gamilons for at least eight years (just the planet bombing for eight years), and if the Cosmo Navy has lasted that long, one imagines there have been some altercations with the Gamilons over bases throughout the Solar System.

Indeed. Though it's probably easier to drop a planet bomb on a human colony than it is to drop a marine regiment on it. It's also more effective/less risky. If I recall correctly the Gamilon didn't have that huge of a tech advantage when it came to their ground based forces.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithekro

In the original pilot for the 1974 version of the show, they show what happened to Sasha when her capsule landed. It landed hard and spun like a top. During this the hatch opened and flung her out (possibly the door ripping across her back as she left). She likely died from the impact. If not she was unconscious and sufficated before Kodai and Shima found her.

Pilot episode = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyjza0fwbjc (We've come a long ways since 1974)

However having yet another sister is new. Also having the plans eariler is also new.

However Earth must have figured out to make more Wave Motion Engines afterward...or else they wouldn't have a wave motion gun equipped fleet in 2201.

I guess they figured that it'd be unbelievable for Cosmo Navy to have only gotten the plans to the Wave motion engine upon Sasha's arrival and been able to make a radical new ship design in that short of a time frame.

Endless Soul · 2012-04-06, 08:09

The more I read this thread and watch the videos, the more excited I am about this release.

Endless "

" Soul

Roger Rambo · 2012-04-06, 10:33

To be fair, dreadnaught sounds a WHOLE lot more menacing than just battleship.

Ithekro · 2012-04-06, 14:13

It was an interesting first episode. Not all that much changed from 1974 to 2012 in terms of the story. Just details and perhaps motivations that make more sense in this day and age.

Spoiler for Plot 'Summary' for Episode One:

All the important musical parts are still there. The voices seem fine. The acting is slightly different, but then it has been almost 40 years and the producers today are different from those back then. Less weight from World War II and the Occupation on their shoulders.

Somehow, in listening to the song onboard the Yukikaze, I get the impression I've heard those voices before. They sound like voices from the original show. I wonder if anyone has information of the actors that played the Yukikaze's crew?

What I am wonderng about and what probably won't happen for a few more episodes, is how the cast will handle the character interactions. Especially the new people that really don't have a previous version to model off. But also the Gamilons...as we've not seen once yet that wasn't in a plane or a spaceship.

(Rina Sato is using her Haruka Minami voice for the nurse. I approve of this)

(There was no OP for this episode that I could see. I suppose the OP would be rather spoiler heavy. More so that the show's title.)

August138 · 2012-04-07, 04:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by calubin_175

Funny thing is, much like back in the 70s, they still never gave names for the classes of ships on the EDF side. They've only listed the Kirishima, Murasame and Yukikaze as specific ships of their respective lines.

Actually, they have given them distinctive classes: The Kirishima is a Kongo Class Battleship; the Murasame is a Murasame Class Armored Cruiser; and the Yukikaze is a Isokaze Class Attack Destroyer.

Hope this helps!

August138 · 2012-04-07, 04:11

A friend of mine — a fellow San Francisco resident — was just in Tokyo (coming back today), went to see the film yesterday, and picked up a copy of the theater exclusive BD for me! Soon, it will be in my evil clutches! Bwa-hahahahahahaha!

Roger Rambo · 2012-04-07, 07:32

So what, that's the first two episodes?

duckroll · 2012-04-07, 07:42

Here's the 2199 OP storyboarded by Anno: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1333792094

I'm not really impressed...

RRW · 2012-04-07, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckroll

Here's the 2199 OP storyboarded by Anno: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1333792094

I'm not really impressed...

very old school-ish. it look like beta

Roger Rambo · 2012-04-07, 08:12

Further thought on the Yamato being increased in size. You think that might be because due to using CGI models, they've become more aware of size discrepancies?

Like you make the CGI model for the Yamato...and then you realize the old bridge layout was much more massive than the bridge on the old ship. So you shrink the bridge down, then you realize it still doesn't match up. So you end up increasing the size of the ship to compensate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Not at all. Yamato is the star after all. I cleaned them up to be used.

As for General Serizawa (Stone), my guess is that they use to put up a fight on the various colony worlds, both before the Gamilons came and afterwards. They've been at war with the Gamilons for at least eight years (just the planet bombing for eight years), and if the Cosmo Navy has lasted that long, one imagines there have been some altercations with the Gamilons over bases throughout the Solar System.

I mean Earth had to be able to capture Gamilon tech to the point they could almost duplicate for at least the weapons systems in even a retrofit fleet they sent to Pluto.

As for the idea of the First Fleet stopping the Gamilons at Earth. Judging by the surface of the planet...they aren't really able to stop the planet bombs. Though they must have been able to provide more that token resistance if they are still around after eight or more years of fighting and eight years of planet bombing.

Yeah, given the quality and numerical difference between the Cosmo Navy and the Gamilons at pluto, I'm guessing that the total fleet is much larger, but are being kept hidden in fortified docks on earth to keep the Gamilon from getting exact force estimates.

Heck, maybe the army has missle batteries hidden all over the planet that nailed the Gamilons the last time they tried to send an invasion fleet directly over earth. Hence the Gamilons current long term siege approach to their campaign.

Ithekro · 2012-04-07, 11:45

That is more or less the orignal OP, just updated a little and with a few crew scenes instead of a generic shot of Yamato taking off in the middle.

As seen here:

I would point out that the two Star Blazers' Openings and Ending were much more interesting...visually.

2012-04-05, 11:32	Link #221
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	http://yamato2199.net/character.html Character update again. (I imagine there will be more all over that site in the next few days) Seven more characters. Mamoru Kodai (Alex Wildstar) - Captain of the Destroyer Yukikaze Ryu Hijikata (Captain Gideon) - At UNCF Headqarters Heikuro Todo (EDF Commander Singleton) - At UNCF Headquarters Kotetsu Serizawa (General Stone) - At UNCF Headquarters <---finally got a Japanese name! Osamu Yamanami - Captain of the Battleship Kirishima Analyzer/AU9 (IQ9) - robot, "genius".....lecher Starsha - Queen of Iscandar __________________

2012-04-05, 13:08	Link #222
Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome	We finally got a good look at Starsha when she's not dead. They're putting allot more emphasis into making her seem uncannily graceful. Compared to the human female cast, you get more of a feeling that she probably is an alien of some kind. Her expression is interesting to, making her seem like a strange but ultimately sympathetic character. We also have more old men. But none of them have the sheer facial hair power that the good ole captain has, so they're probably only going to be of marginal importance Though I do wonder what Cosmo Force general Kotetsu (Stone) has to do in this kind of situation. The Gamilon are taking the very economical approach and bombing humanity with planet bombs in a war of attrition. Not allot of use for ground pounders in this situation. Though I suppose he could be in charge of ground based planetary defenses and fortifications. __________________ DEEP WITHIN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE WHERE GENESTEALERS ARE MADE OF F***ING RUBBER!

2012-04-05, 13:44	Link #223
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	After a little more work I have some more avatars (but not Avatar) - Science Division Uniform (Female) ... ... __________________ Last edited by Ithekro; 2012-04-05 at 15:10. Reason: Missed a set.

2012-04-05, 13:56	Link #225
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Not at all. Yamato is the star after all. I cleaned them up to be used. As for General Serizawa (Stone), my guess is that they use to put up a fight on the various colony worlds, both before the Gamilons came and afterwards. They've been at war with the Gamilons for at least eight years (just the planet bombing for eight years), and if the Cosmo Navy has lasted that long, one imagines there have been some altercations with the Gamilons over bases throughout the Solar System. I mean Earth had to be able to capture Gamilon tech to the point they could almost duplicate for at least the weapons systems in even a retrofit fleet they sent to Pluto. As for the idea of the First Fleet stopping the Gamilons at Earth. Judging by the surface of the planet...they aren't really able to stop the planet bombs. Though they must have been able to provide more that token resistance if they are still around after eight or more years of fighting and eight years of planet bombing. __________________

2012-04-05, 18:47	Link #226
calubin_175 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	According to Starsha's profile, 1 year ago (2188), she sent to Earth her youngest sister Yurisha to deliver the plans for the wave motion engine. A year after that, she sends Sasha to deliver the wave motion engine core, a component that could not be built on Earth. Most likely Yurisha's dead as well. Compared to the original 1973 version, in 2199, they depicted Sasha's death with her resting in the capsule, like a coffin, as opposed to attempting to get out and collapsing, assuming that she might have sustained some injuries before. I got into the original Yamato back in early 2010 along with every other Leiji Matsumoto production. Glad that it is reviving after two mediocre modern films, Fukkatsu Hen and the live action. Funny thing is, much like back in the 70s, they still never gave names for the classes of ships on the EDF side. They've only listed the Kirishima, Murasame and Yukikaze as specific ships of their respective lines. On the other hand, the Gamilus side actually have names for their classes. Many of the older descriptions didn't have a class name, it was just simply Battleship(Senkan), Cruiser(Junyoukan) and Destroyer(Kuchikkan), and some of the one-off appearance ships were named after their captian. So Okita's unique ship onscreen at the Battle of Pluto was just called Okita's ship. Similarly, Gamilus Admiral Schultz had a unique ship back then and it was just called the Schultz ship, now in 2199 it is classed as a Dreadnought. Back in the Playstation games it was a Battleship Class. Last edited by calubin_175; 2012-04-05 at 18:59.

2012-04-05, 18:54	Link #227
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	In the original pilot for the 1974 version of the show, they show what happened to Sasha when her capsule landed. It landed hard and spun like a top. During this the hatch opened and flung her out (possibly the door ripping across her back as she left). She likely died from the impact. If not she was unconscious and sufficated before Kodai and Shima found her. Pilot episode = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyjza0fwbjc (We've come a long ways since 1974) However having yet another sister is new. Also having the plans eariler is also new. However Earth must have figured out to make more Wave Motion Engines afterward...or else they wouldn't have a wave motion gun equipped fleet in 2201. (Well a Dreadnought is just another name for a Battleship...it just usually implies that it is bigger than the normal battleships. Based off the HMS Dreadnought that revolutionized naval warfare and made all prior battleships obsolete...including all the many, many British Battleships, and thus allowing everyone else to catch up....opps. Yamato herself was a several generations of design beyond a classic Dreadnought.) __________________ Last edited by Ithekro; 2012-04-05 at 19:50. Reason: Added link to the Pilot.

2012-04-06, 02:06	Link #228
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Now with subtitles: (Both in English and Portuguese) (You have to turn on the Close Captioning) <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/8TP347BvgqM">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> (Hurry Star Force. There is only 1 day left....) __________________

2012-04-06, 02:18	Link #229
calubin_175 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	There are some spoilers from this website originating from production documents. http://blogiscandar.project2199.com/...g-post_31.html The document was actually auctioned for 5000yen http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m99428387 Spoiler for On Yurisha: Yurisha's whereabouts was seemingly unknown after she delivered the plans, but she was actually kept in her coffin capsule, put in a place within the Yamato which has never been opened before. Her delivery back to Iscandar was one of the missions of the Yamato's voyage and like Sarsha, she looks like Mori Yuki. Last edited by calubin_175; 2012-04-06 at 02:32.

2012-04-06, 08:09	Link #231
Endless Soul Megane girl fan Join Date: May 2011 Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Age: 55	The more I read this thread and watch the videos, the more excited I am about this release. Endless "" Soul __________________ Signature by ganbaru

2012-04-06, 10:33	Link #232
Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome	To be fair, dreadnaught sounds a WHOLE lot more menacing than just battleship. __________________ DEEP WITHIN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE WHERE GENESTEALERS ARE MADE OF F***ING RUBBER!

2012-04-06, 14:13	Link #233
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	It was an interesting first episode. Not all that much changed from 1974 to 2012 in terms of the story. Just details and perhaps motivations that make more sense in this day and age. Spoiler for Plot 'Summary' for Episode One: As we've seen in the Preview, The Earth Fleet got hammered. The elder Kodai's motivations for staying are more reasonable this time around. Make sure the flagship can make it home. The younger Kodai doesn't seem quite as hotheaded as before, reflecting the change to his brother. A date is given as January 17, 2199 For Sasha's grave marker. We see another old face on the Kirishima. Someone we didn't see until Yamato III, Hajime Hirata. He takes Kodai and Shima's finding once they arrive on ship. He's also the one that has to tell Kodai about the loss of his brother. Yuki tells us the backstory to the war. That eight years prior to the present, Earth made contact with aliens for the first time. They welcomed the aliens, but got planet bombs in return. The Earth Defense Forces fought the aliens and managed to stop them after a costly battle over Mars. It was then that "Gamilus" resorted to heavy long range planet bombing as a means to wipe out humanity. Scientists believe Earth has about one year left to live. She is telling this to school children. However while the humans had been trying to terraform Mars, the Gamilus terraformed Pluto as a base of operations. Next we see Yasuo Nanbu and Yuki afterwards. She's very cool and professonal. He's talking about the fleet and the distraction when Kodai and Shima arrive. Kodai wants answers. He wants to know if his brother died in vain. Yuki tells him (and Shima) off. (The shippers are going to be all over this) Kodai drags Shima out to the Hospital to see Admiral Okita about the battle. There is of course the Admiral's private doctor. Dr. Sakezo Sado, and his nurse (the first new regular we've seen) Makoto Harada. Kodai barges in to ask question and is rebuffed by the also present Admiral Ryu Hijikata, who was one of Kodai's instructors. Okita recognizes the young man as the elder Kodai's brother and tells him more or less what happened and apologies. Kodai seems to take this a lot better than he did in the 1974 version. Afterwards the Doctor and is nurse come out to talk to Kodai and Shima...the Sake bottle comes out (the nurse chastises the doctor) but Kodai and Shima have left already. Later Okita reviews personel records and get a call that the capsule is being analyzed. This scene provides dates of birth for Kodai (7/7/2178) and Shima (8/15/2178). The General Staff (I suppose) of Admiral Ryu Hijikata, General Kotetsu Serizawa, EDF Commander Heikuro Todo gather to hear the findings on the Iscadarian capsule from anoter old face, Shiro Sanada. There is also another larger capsule in the corner being tended. One big enough for a person. Kodai and Shima are a fighter hanger bay (I assume as punishment from Hijikata) looking over the new Cosmo Zero. They are impressed and interrupted by another familiar face, Saburo Kato, Ace pilot, who tells them a little about the fighter and to keep their hands off it. He then gets called over to one of the Cosmo Falcons. Shima gets a mischievious look just before the alarms sound. A Gamilus aircraft has penetrated Earths defenses and is scouting around the South China Sea. Kodai and Shima put on space suits and take the Cosmo Zero. Kato yells and them form a distance. Kodai intercepts the enemy plane and manages to get a solid view in the gunsight....but in pulling the trigger finds that the Cosmo Zero doesn't have any ammunition. (Should have wonderful gun camera footage though). The Gamilus plane leaves in a hurry. The Cosmo Zero then suffers engine trouble and they are forced to crash land. Kodai leaves the Cosmo Zero to head for a ridge to see where they are. Shima was prepared to just wait for rescue, but goes to see what Kodai is staring at. Over the ridge is a huge wrecked mass of a battleship imbedded in what was once the sea floor. We are introduced to the show's final star....Yamato. End Credits roll. All the important musical parts are still there. The voices seem fine. The acting is slightly different, but then it has been almost 40 years and the producers today are different from those back then. Less weight from World War II and the Occupation on their shoulders. Somehow, in listening to the song onboard the Yukikaze, I get the impression I've heard those voices before. They sound like voices from the original show. I wonder if anyone has information of the actors that played the Yukikaze's crew? What I am wonderng about and what probably won't happen for a few more episodes, is how the cast will handle the character interactions. Especially the new people that really don't have a previous version to model off. But also the Gamilons...as we've not seen once yet that wasn't in a plane or a spaceship. (Rina Sato is using her Haruka Minami voice for the nurse. I approve of this) (There was no OP for this episode that I could see. I suppose the OP would be rather spoiler heavy. More so that the show's title.) __________________ Last edited by Ithekro; 2012-04-06 at 16:01. Reason: Details and spelling

2012-04-07, 04:11	Link #235
August138 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Francisco, California	A friend of mine — a fellow San Francisco resident — was just in Tokyo (coming back today), went to see the film yesterday, and picked up a copy of the theater exclusive BD for me! Soon, it will be in my evil clutches! Bwa-hahahahahahaha! __________________ August Ragone "The Good, The Bad, and Godzilla"

2012-04-07, 07:32	Link #236
Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome	So what, that's the first two episodes? __________________ DEEP WITHIN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE WHERE GENESTEALERS ARE MADE OF F***ING RUBBER!

2012-04-07, 07:42	Link #237
duckroll 綺羅星★！ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 42	Here's the 2199 OP storyboarded by Anno: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1333792094 I'm not really impressed...

2012-04-07, 11:45	Link #240
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	That is more or less the orignal OP, just updated a little and with a few crew scenes instead of a generic shot of Yamato taking off in the middle. As seen here: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/h3yG3ZhrRnk">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> I would point out that the two Star Blazers' Openings and Ending were much more interesting...visually. __________________ Last edited by Ithekro; 2012-05-11 at 19:16.