2013-02-06, 14:36 | Link #2901 | |
Adeptus Animus
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Regardless, I believe the main issue that led to this point was that Fate is a very skilled melee fighter who uses Mid. And regardless of how she matches up against Signum, that she is a highly skilled melee fighter cannot be argued. However, that does not make Mid a better system than Belka for melee. Fate uses several workarounds to perform well in melee. She sacrifices armor for speed, and continues to sacrifice it even more for Sonic Form. She also uses an energy blade for almost every one of her weapon modes, rather than physically enhancing Bardiche in his... well... bardiche mode. If I were to nitpick -and I will- I would also point out that if we ignore Rule of Cool for a moment, choosing a scythe over a bardiche shows that she kind of needs the energy blade, as otherwise the bardiche is a superior weapon. And amidst all that, Fate still uses a truckload of ranged spells. Indeed, her arsenal of shooting spells vastly outnumbers her arsenal of melee spells. |
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2013-02-06, 14:37 | Link #2902 | |
The Interstellar Medium
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But yea, I don't know. Wish they could have expanded that in the series...
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2013-02-06, 15:20 | Link #2907 |
Manus ad Ferrum
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So back for a second to the dimensional travel. Is not something that is separate by distance and I always find that weird on the Nanohaverse. They act not like other dimensions but more like other worlds connected thanks to the Dimensional Sea. Going to other dimensions should not require move in space but to break that barrier. So I guess this is a case of the author just using words he think sounded cool and not caring that much of what they actually mean.
By the way between Signum and Fate I believe Fate is stronger but lacks character to win anything against a friend so Signum takes advantage of that.
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2013-02-06, 15:29 | Link #2908 |
Adeptus Animus
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Again, that is just one perception of how dimensions work. Throughout various media there have been various implementations of dimensions. Some link them side by side with only a wall separating them, other have them be entire worlds floating in another form of space. Yet other media depict them as worlds within worlds, like the marble galaxies of MiB or the dungeons of Magi.
You use the first method, worlds separated only by a barrier. The Nanoha franchise uses the seconds, worlds separated by another dimension. A sort of "astral plane" if you are familiar with D&D. |
2013-02-06, 15:41 | Link #2909 |
Manus ad Ferrum
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I am not familiar with D&D but I get what you mean. Is just that with that logic this feels more like traveling in space than dimensions. And the spell Dimensional Transfer is not a teleportation spell as much as a bust speed travel or something like that. At least to me.
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2013-02-06, 15:48 | Link #2910 |
Adeptus Animus
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Well yes, in essence it would be similar to traveling through space. Indeed it is a form of space travel (but then if we get nitpicky all form of travel is technically space traveling- but I'm rambling). It's just dimensional space traveling. The difference is that no matter how fast your spaceships are, if you can't enter the dimensional sea, you could travel through your entire universe and never catch someone who has traveled to a different dimension.
But there are upsides to this system as well. For one, you don't have to worry about mirror dimensions and the mess that comes with those. Second, you introduce natural limitations like range and travel time which can create tension and allow you to attach an infrastructure to it. creating territory and border conflicts also becomes easier. Lastly, it also covers up a ton of plotholes that would have come with "I can travel everywhere I want" dimensions. |
2013-02-06, 15:57 | Link #2911 |
Manus ad Ferrum
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But in a sense could be consider wrong calling this "dimensional travel" to be able to cross another dimension is to break the time-space line so, why should be distance or time be in to consideration there? I am just wondering here since I don't think is that bad, just that I think it doesn't really fit to the other theories about dimensions. Here we asume there is something between dimensions and that something is the Dimensional Sea.
That also makes me wonder how is to travel between dimensions with a spell? You just sit around in the air doing nothing while you travel?
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2013-02-06, 16:19 | Link #2912 |
Adeptus Animus
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Again, that is relying on only one theory of dimensions. And the scientific ones at that. Dimension traveling in Nanoha has always relied more on the fantasy side of the show.
As for dimensional travel... Similar to flying to a place, I assume. |
2013-02-06, 17:07 | Link #2913 |
Manus ad Ferrum
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Yes, and is why I say they just use the word "dimension" and the rest because sound cool. Really I am just saying is cool but a little odd when you take the other ideas behind it.
This actually reminds me a lot of the Thor and Asgard. The 9 Realms all connected thanks to a magic tree.
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2013-02-06, 21:00 | Link #2918 |
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I always found "Dimensional sea" to be accurate enough. It's just like jumping into the ocean. Both the air above, and the water below, are both "spaces" and you can exist in either one. You simply need to cross the boundary. The physical rules differ between the two, which allows one to move faster in one than the other. Hence, why the rainbow-glowy area allows ships to travel faster and farther.
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2013-02-16, 00:12 | Link #2920 | |
Goat Herder
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Binds can be done in the air against people who fly. This has been established often enough.
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