Full Metal Panic Novel Discussion

[Missilebuster]

I think we all need to come to terms with the ARX-8's awesomeness, we've already seen one of its caliber - Leotards floating gaymobile. So they made a mech with a super high output and physics altering "arms." Nothing that hasnt already been introduced with the lambda driver itself (hell they might be constant small lambda driver functions created by simulated constant brain waves produced by AL, its no less believable than a floating floating mech. There is something called willing suspension of disbelief, its what happens when - for instance - a story introduces fairies, and you accept them without leaving the theater screaming BUT FAIRIES ARENT REAL!!! It can become unbelievable when the story starts to break its own rules. Why then are people complaining about this feat of engineering when it is sticking to the rules of the series? Just chillax and enjoy the fact that sousuke now has the means to defeat his many enemies.

If people still arent satisfied with its overpowerdness, maybe they should describe how hard it was to make the mech, give the pricetag, or show some enemies that are on par with the laevaeitin (Leonard and some of his posse should have some decent mechs, not to mention the higher up in amalglam)

[Hussar67]

Originally Posted by Missilebuster

So they made a mech with a super high output and physics altering "arms."

I don't think the arms are Lambda Driver-created anymore from what I read in HunterSeeker's translation. Looking again at the orange ARX-8, I think the secondary arms that AL controls are mechanical helper robotic arms that come out of bays on either side of the ARX's torso. Take a second look:

Spoiler:

[An-Chan]

wooooooow.....my first thought was "WTF???" , too.
thanks for the info hunter xD
It's awesome to see Sousuke kick the bad guys' ass but that's far too unrealistic!

[T.V.]

Originally Posted by Hussar67

I don't think the arms are Lambda Driver-created anymore from what I read in HunterSeeker's translation. Looking again at the orange ARX-8, I think the secondary arms that AL controls are mechanical helper robotic arms that come out of bays on either side of the ARX's torso. Take a second look:

Spoiler:

Yep.

The small secondary Al controlled arms are the red ones coiled up between the torso and the shoulders.
One can be seen to partially unrol in that pic.

They're akin to a pair of mechanical tentacles with small manipulators on them.
Very handy indeed.


The fighting style is probably less ZOMG! than might appear.
It's simply an extension of the LD fights that have being going on throughout FMP.
The first encounter between the ARX-7 and the Cordal, the subsequent encounters between the ARX-7 and the Venoms, ARX-7 vs. Varial, etc.

The only real thing that changes, is the mastery of the LD system, which dramatically changes the fighting style, due to it's apparent ability to bend the rules of physics.
It's probably more pronounced on the ARX-8 simply because the power output if its fusion generator (48000 kW) is much higher, and thus it can power the LD to far greater lengths.
Also, with Al and Sousuke's improved awareness and skills, the LD can be more subtly used to amazing results.

The reactor output isn't that suprising either, since reactor engines should easily be able to generate such an amount of power. It ofcourse comes at the expense of a severly reduced running time.
So, I don't think Gatoh has transformed FMP into a super robot show just yet.

It's far less GiaoGaiGar/Tetsujin/Mazinger/Aquarion, than might appear.

Thanks for the added info, HunterSeeker.

[Missilebuster]

Did i read that right? - did the arx-8 indeed get injured? I'm pretty sure it said that it injured its right leg, meaning that the whole tearing apart 6 enemies without a scratch is bull.

[Masanori Ota]

I think that was the Behemoth-i's right leg. I might be wrong though.

All I can say about the ARX-8's fighting style is...it was made for anime.

[dpryciak]

Yup, gotta remember...this is for anime and anime fans <G>

[PhantomX]

Lol, now if only they would animate it already XD

[T.V.]

Originally Posted by Masanori Ota

All I can say about the ARX-8's fighting style is...it was made for anime.

Wasn't that always the case?

When I first saw the first battle with LD equipped mechas I went ZOMGLOLWTFBBQ, but eventually the story was more or less able to present it in a more believable light.
The current antics of the ARX-8 aren't really as much of stretch, rather than a logical extrapolation, concerning the foundation of LD mechas in FMP.

[LoweGear]

Considering Laevatein's performance, and what's been shown before, it isn't really much of a stretch for FMP LD battles, although it is pushing the limit of Real Robot battles (cake still goes to Gundam's various newtype biosensor battles).

All the more reason it's really awesome though, especially the coordination between AI and Sousuke on the use of the hidden arms XD

[Miles Teg]

Originally Posted by HunterSeeker

Then they got insight of a new AS with a power output of 4800KW------2 times more than 3rd Generation AS, and suspassing those of a fighter/warship.

So we know that the ARX-8 has a power output of 4800 kW (6500 hp), the third generation AS (M9, ARX-7 and probably the Cordal and Shadow) have a power output of 2500 kW (3300 hp) and a second generation AS, the Savage, has a power output of 890 kW (1200 hp), so yes the Laevatein is twice as powerful has a M9.

But from what I remember the 4,8 MW of the ARX-8 are way inferior to the power that a jet engine could produce, and a lot of warship (with diesel engine) produce more than 5 MW. So the Laevatein probably produce more power than some (very) small warship, but I really don't think the ARX-8 is able to surpass any jet fighters. The comparison is clearly making the Laevatein more overpowered than it really is

Since I'm speaking about warship, the TDD-1 produce 210000hp (156 MW), the latest Los Angeles class submarine produce 165 MW and a Nimitz class aircraft carrier produce nearly 200 MW.

[traziemykel]

Can anyone spoil a very merry xmas novel for me?! please...

[PhantomX]

You can read it yourself here http://ronin.cn/fmp/ if you want. Reading it is a lot more exciting than being spoiled on it.

[Happy Asian Fellow]

Hey, does anyone have any idea when baku-tachi is coming out with their translation of "Burning One Man Force" ?? or if anyone has started it? or if i can find it anywhere???????

[Generalgm]

Originally Posted by Happy Asian Fellow

Hey, does anyone have any idea when baku-tachi is coming out with their translation of "Burning One Man Force" ?? or if anyone has started it? or if i can find it anywhere???????

look in these forums, its all there >: 3

[sx3]

Originally Posted by HunterSeeker

Finished reading MMD10.
One sentence here: HOLY SHIT. Read on to see why.

Spoiler for OMFGWTF ABSOLUTELY NUTS AND UNREALISTIC spoilers for MMD10:

1. The Amalgam Attackers are known as the units commanded directly by Mr.Au. They're bored for no opponents to fight: estimated Codarl-ms as guards of the mansion are nowhere to be seen (blown up by Uruz team already), and those Eligors, while are good opponents, soon retreated after a short fight. Their thirst of fighting goes even higher when they saw the Benemoth-i blew up the lone helicopter. (Well, in a frenzied/crazed state after taking drugs) Then they got insight of a new AS with a power output of 4800KW------2 times more than 3rd Generation AS, and suspassing those of a fighter/warship. (WTF?) Then the HQ told them to destroy this new AS.
2. Sousuke was stunned by the amazing jumping capibility of Laevatein------30G power, 80m from the ground in a few seconds. (WTF?) We also know that Hunter did participate in the secret building of Laevatein, but didn't go for a test run (proposed by AL itself) due to lack of time and place. The first Codarl-m ran up with its LD on with a Monomolecular Cutter, but Laevatein started its LD and grabbed hold if its cutter, then a punch from Laevatein broke Codarl's field, slammed on its body and pulled its generator out (Insert GaoGaiGar/EVA fighting style here. WTF?). An additional kick obiliterated it (Of course, Sousuke is stunned by its power to destroy an AS by bare hands).
3. The 2 remaining approached, and Laevatein used its GRAW-4 Monomolecular Cutter. While one attacked him directly at front and another tried to attack at the back, AL controls Laevatein's "Hidden Arms" and throws anti-AS Grenades at the Codarl-m behind like there're 2 pilots on the mecha. (WTF?) That Codarl-m was pinned in an instant, and Laevatein did a Whirlwind Kick at the Codarl-m at the front, kicks it down before jumping back to deal with the second one. It fires at Laevatein, only with its bullet blocked by LD and being cutted into 4 parts in an X sign in the chest (Exactly what's the finishing slashing move for those Brave Series in the past. WTF?). The downed Codarl wanted to escape, but AL handed an Anti-Armour Dagger to Sousuke (exactly what the words mean), who threw it at that Codarl-m, penetrated its LD and BLAM. The "Hidden Arms" are shown to be used for assisting attacks, exchanging magazines and other sorts of works (by the words of AL).
3. The helicopter wasn't on fire or exploded since it's a design improved throughout 30 years. Though no one died in the progress, Lemon and his friends are surrounded by angry mobs of enemies and ammo runs low. (Wraith even said "I only came here since 'it can be delivered safely to here', but why should I join a desparate gunfight in places like Mexico!? ") We also know how Lemon got the Laevatein: When Sousuke reported the situation of the mansion in M6A3, they saw a large truck drove to them and Wraith said "If you want to go, also bring that." No one knows why AL knows Sousuke will go to the mansion (Wraith followed what AL said and came) though.
4. The Benemoth-i attacked, and such a large barrage of ammo upon Laevatein made it unable to escape (due to the short distance) and loses its balance, allowing the ridiculously fast Benemoth-i stepped on it. But it isn't dead though, Laevatein went for maximum output and using the bursting power of LD, it pushed the Benemoth-i back with its right leg damaged, falling down with its face facing the sky. Then they proceeded to jump onto its head and uses its cutter to disable it. Another closer Benemoth-i fired, only be dodged by it and the armour of the downed Benemoth. AL then told shocked Sousuke (of course, only MBTs will have 120mm+ Main Gun, and so far the biggest weapons for their AS to use is Kurtz's Sniping Cannon, 76mm) to use the 165mm Demolition Gun, which can't be fired without the use of LD. Laevatein then jumped into the air, blocking smaller bullets and shooting down the anti-AS missiles by its Gatling Cannon in the head, landed behind it before jumping up and landed upon its head. a LD attack upon Laevatein was blocked and he fired the Gun at its brain in point-blank range, destroying it. The remaining Belemoth tried to escape, but AL, useing its "Hidden Arms", refitted the Demolition Gun as a Howizter, maximum range=50KM. Sousuke then aimed at its head, fire (Laevatein falls down due to the backward force of the gun) and BLAM, 6 AS destroyed.
After the fight they had a little conversation (expect Sousuke scolding AL for its self-conscience), and within both admitted they missed each other. However, they won't be able to chase Chidori's helicopter, so they'll need to help Lemon and his gang.
5. On the helicopter, Chidori is still thinking if she's going to resist or not since Kalinin was aboard, and she still felt sorry for shooting Leonard. But she soon realized that mercy will ruin her life, and since no one noticed her, she hastly grabbed the pistol of the soldier beside her, and call him to tell the pilot to fly the plane back.

OK, I really want to shout "OMFG WTF?" for the fighting style of Laevatein, reminding me about some kung-fu scenes like the Matrix. However, the original descriptions is awesome, very detailed and the conversations between AL and Sousuke are really funny, despite I hate this type of Super Robot style mecha designs......(The translator, being a female, is also stunned by the ridiculous power of Laevatein)
And as speculations, Chidori will fail to escape since Kalinin can easily suppress her, or just let her shoot herself.

Next round is the last one. Expect some reunion and some more determinations! Bring them on!

thanks hunterseek, i dunno.. until this is animated i can't find this way of fighting what i like from Full metal panic, maybe they'll make it look really good if they animate it and i'd like it more

[Missilebuster]

is it gettin towards that special time of month?

[Generalgm]

Originally Posted by Missilebuster

is it gettin towards that special time of month?

I'd say give it a week, >: 3 lol, though I want info now! lol

[Missilebuster]

how bout we start randomly speculating... i'll start:

Kalinin will bite the dust for Chidori, thus helping her escape the copter into the hot softcore porn that is her reunion with Sousuke

scratch that make that hardcore

[PhantomX]

I doubt he'ld sacrifice himself for Chidori, although he MIGHT let her get away due to old ties etc. Although it's most likely that he just be her obstacle, since he showed no remorse to Sousuke :\

I would like a reunion plox. And some confessing already. If you've been kidnapped, nearly killed a couple times, and even shot someone (albeit on accident), you'ld think you could say "I love you" to somebody :\