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1. the blood of the Sekiryuutei caused the dragon/god sealed in the sacred gear to awake giving the host new power. 2. gasper gets a new form where he becomes shadows and goes on a rage also copies saji's vitra promotion where saji take dragon king form. 3. i think that if the author is going to make a sacred gear evolve into a new longius then it should be saji's sacred gear. based on why its evolving but then again vitra was the weakest dragon king and im guessing a god is as strong if not stronger. i agree that gasper deserves a power-up or he's going to fall behind the team but is this really the power up for gasper. he is more of a support type like asia and again his support abilities are great just like asia healing so does he really need to be some superpower with a god its like twighlight healing awakening a goddess that could bring back the dead. again im not even against gasper getting a power up or even having his sacred gear become a longius what im not sold on is the type of power up it just feels like something goes against the personality of gasper i understand becoming a man and standing up but that doesnt mean he needs a god or longius but who knows its just my view point i still expect some information and new developments about the unknown holy writings aka volume 16 to come to light which could make everything i spent the last 5 mins typing pointless |
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2013-10-27, 17:40 | Link #645 |
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It happens,first balor is not a dragon.In the myths he is a demon of irish myths,but in dxd he is a god(not a dragon).second is that to gasper's sacred gear become a longinus this will take a thousand of years and about saji,his sacred gear will never become a longinus because his dragon is the most weak between the dragon kings.I think that vritra is not even in the top 20 of the dragons.then is most impossible that saji's sacred gear become a longinus.remember:saji is not a guy how ise that can make miracles happen.
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2013-10-27, 18:47 | Link #647 |
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guys,I already know that we still not have information enough for this,but I will try to make a top 20 of the devils to have some notion about ise's actual strenght.
remember,all this top 20 was made by suppositions,then not get mad with me. top 20 1-rizevim/sirzechs 2-ajuka 3-serafall/greyfia 4-the maou asmodeus 5-diehauser bellial 6-the second in the rating game 7-the third in the rating game 8-the queen of ajuka/the fourth in the rg 9-sutr second(with full power) 10-ise crimson queen +new divine divide powers/euclid 11-tannin/mephisto pheles 12-oukita(the kiba master) 13-macgregor matters 14-old maou lucifer 15-old beelzebub 16-old maou leviathan 17-old maou asmodeus 18-the rook of ajuka 19-sairaorg 20-ruval phenex |
2013-10-27, 18:54 | Link #648 |
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The whole thing about Issei taking them along is subject to Rias approval. It's not something that Issei can promise by himself. Until. I see him and Rias having a talk about it with her accepting that promise doesn't really amount to anything.
For Xenovia vs Arthur, the odds are extremely against her as they're both holy sword users and the one thing a sword user needs above everything else is techniques which is still her weak point although she has made some progress in that area. As for the holy swords, we don't know anything about Collbrande's power as compared to Ex-Durandal so there's no point arguing about which sword is more powerful. As for Koneko vs Kuroka, all she has achieved after 16 volumes is that she has finally reached where Kuroka was at during their first encounter. Kuroka should be even more powerful now. I can't see Koneko beating Kuroka as she is now in Vol 16. As for Asia, well until Fafnir is in a real fight there's no way to actually gauge his power level. |
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1. virtra's different abilities alone cause problems for enemies if used properly. 2. saying virtra is not top 20 says that his Dragon King title means nothing and kind of down plays other dragon kings. 3. theres at most 15 dragons worth mentioning(not including 666 cause i dont even know what it is and lillith cause she other half of ophis) so theres not way that 5 or 6 new dragons are gonna come and just fill in the other top 20 spots to move virtra out the top 20. 4. 15 dragons worth mentioned by author: -True Dragon -Dragon God -2 Heavenly Dragons -5 dragon kings -5 evil dragons -former dragon king tannin(mention cause he was said to be one of the strongest when he was a dragon king) -- the only known fact about these dragons is virtra is weakest and big red is strongest and the same can be said about gasper he doesnt really make miracles happen either BUT if either gasper or saji sg do become longinus could be because they both have connections with ise, and gasper way more than saji |
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2013-10-27, 19:42 | Link #651 |
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you know rating them is useless coz all you know the author love to shock us so it's no wonder for me that saji mutate to longinus or sairog become an equal on issei in term of strength you must remember that ddraig once commented on sairog evolving strength?
._. i wont argue peinmaximus@ anymore coz its kinda repetive unless he ask a different question that doesnt scope the top 10-20 strongest, who is stronger ?? or the ending of vol 16 that's all sorry if offend you gonna respect her/his post/question/speculation instead
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2013-10-27, 20:00 | Link #652 |
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^ I agree because someone could just get a boost in power the only thing that's guaranteed by everyone is Great Red is Thee strongest being (SO FAR)
--- But one thing that dxd is focusing on and is highlighting well is that people could match up well against one person and bad against the next. ex. ise the devil and Sekiryuutei is naturally stronger than the human cao cao but cao cao having the holy spear and being a technique type can fight on par with ise ( match ups like this are starting to take shape in the dxd fights more and more every chapter causing fights to be harder and harder to predict ) another one ( also focusing on ise cause he's main character ) is ise vs a magic type like ley fay, unless they have good summons, defensive magic, and offensive magic they would have trouble against ise who is a power type who specialize offence and defense. ( and ise prob wont fight ley fay no reason too. ) |
2013-10-27, 20:01 | Link #653 |
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its getting boring .. cause it doesnt matter what we think or how we rank them becasue the author is gonna do whatever he wants its like when samael appear .. we got opfis as the strongest and was not able to escape the dragon eater .. or when cao cao appear it took isse like 4 tries to beat him and he beat him only because of luck
cao cao a mere human took on 2 heavenly dragons , azazel and all the girl in vali and rias team on his own .. yet he fall because isse drop some of samael blood on him .. power levels are useless until the story is over because only then we will get the right way to rank them
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2013-10-27, 20:48 | Link #655 |
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sorry it happen,I wanted to say that vritra is in top 15 not top 20.really sorry.
too I think that great red still strong than 666.I think that ophis with her original power is strong how great red with 20% of all his powers.I think that no one in DxD(same 666)can defeat great red. |
2013-10-27, 20:58 | Link #656 |
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just finish the HS DxD Power-Set Thread ._. it's mini info though dxd wikia is still the best i hope its help the discussion and help keep some of the arguments to a minimum
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2013-10-27, 23:51 | Link #658 |
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Yeah, but Ise's familiar growth is also limited by the amount of aura that Ise has, and I doubt that Ise's aura has increased to the point, where his familiar could grow to the point of being capable of carrying everyone to Romania - since, probably only a few days have passed, between the end of volume 15 and the starting point of volume 16.
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it grows both over time and according to it's owner's aura, from Surtr Seconds explanation it sounded like it will take years before it becomes large enough and strong enough to carry his team (right now it's limited to carrying 1 person only) however i expect the author will probably implement some sort of spell or something that will allow it to mature sooner (perhaps it will age faster in the dimensional gap or something) and become large enough to use as a base of operations for the Gremory group.
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