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This volume sounds better than the last one. But seriously, I’m really starting to get mad at the author. I mean let’s be honest, it’s not like every volume holds a lot of progress for the story, and now the releases will always be six months apart?! At this pace, the memory thing won’t get solved until at least 2025. A few volumes ago, i got really excited with every new volume, but now, with every six months that pass and we don’t see a sign of the end of this memory loss coupled with lots and lots of Takahisa, i only get more and more frustrated.
Sorry about that. I’m really not one to complain but i had to get that out of my chest. Does anyone feel the same way about the pacing of the story as i do? |
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I won't say this entire novel is, but this vol is to me an undeniable, without a shred of doubt; masterpiece. We got: - Chad Miharu - overoverpowered Sora - viscous evil Takahisa All things I didn't know I wanted. Last edited by hihoperorin; 2023-02-01 at 08:47. |
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Chad Miharu is definitely something to look forward to, yeah.
I do hope that the girls will remember Rio soon. The author dragging that plot point out so much, as well as him dragging out the plot point of Celia studying the masks and making more, is really annoying and I don't like it. If the voice Miharu hears in the dream really belongs to another one of the Wise Gods and not Lina, then I wonder how many of them are still alive. Unless they also left behind a contingency plan like Lina had.
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These may be hot takes but.
I want Rio to actually rehabilitate Takahisa, not to criticize the mansion people but I think they didn't handle him well, to clarify, I don't mean they are to be blamed for anything, just that if you look at Takahisa as a mental/psychology patient; that wasn't the best way to direct him towards regaining a healthy state of mind. If anything they probably accelerated his fall to depravity; now he's most likely gonna be Rio's problem to handle. Tbh, if I was Rio, I know it's unwarranted and childish but I'd be a little miffed with the mansion people, like bruh, the selfless act of helping and protecting you people who don't even remember us from dangers is one thing, but now you're increasing my troubles by making this guy go on a do or die hunt for my head (hypothetically from next vol preview), good going girls, keep at it. Then again, all of that is nothing in front of getting Chad Miharu, nothing is too much trouble in the quest for that. The second thing is, I really like Rio Aishia and Sora current party and relation balance. If those three grow and experience many things, their chemistry/bonds would be even better than they already are, they don't need no girls no nothing; the dragon king group is complete as is. On the other hand the mansion side are getting relevant or rather worthwhile to read, they feel like they are getting substance as characters. But these are totally just my preferences. |
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Takahisa can't even remember Rio, so I don't think he could rehabilitate him even if he wanted to. But I really hate Takahisa, though, so I just want him dead. Rehabilitation would be better if it's possible, yeah.
I really wanna see Lina'a contingency plan come to fruition. Hopefully that's soon, and Miharu will at least remember Rio after that. Or something needs to happen with Rio, Sora and Aishia looking for ways around God's rules.
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My hope for volume 24 is the author puts Takahisa on the back burner for awhile. We've had two full volumes dedicated to him. While other plots were also developing in the last two volumes, Takahisa's plot was the most prominent. Even with that, it didn't resolve this volume so some elements will need to mentioned next volume, but hopefully not full chapters. I am sure the author has something in store for Takahisa, or him being a catalyst for something, but it can happen off screen or page this time. We don't need to read about it in detail.
I am ready to shift back to Rio, especially if the girls are going to be stuck in rule jail for the foreseeable future. We can pivot back to them every once in awhile for slow life elements, but focus on Rio and lets get back to enjoying the main character of the story. |
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Hiroaki is maturing which is one of the good news. With no Rio around, the others are growing on their own. While I don't like on how Takahisa is being threated, I know he did a crime but it looks like everyone is just bullying him. If he remember his crime or why he did it and still not felt remorse, then he is proving to be trash, but with no memory of Rio, he is just becoming weird or unhinge, he can't understand his reasoning which making him more twisted. He insist on his justice, no killing or harming belief but that is just been strengthen because of Rio being a killer. he abhors him which making his belief becoming more stronger because of his jealousy and his absolute belief to deny him. But with no Rio in his memory, it become full of airs in his empty head. He has strong belief but with no support(rio) he question himself and become lost and it didn't help that his surrounding is being hostile to him. I agree, he is becoming mentally retard and needed help and his current environment isn't helping him. He should part ways with the others and calm/rehabilitate/reflect on himself.
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The Six Wise Gods and their Disciples participated in the war 1,000 years ago. And I think it's possible that some or all of them were killed in the war.
I agree with Nekodamashii and Xan. But I don't think the author will lessen the amount of focus on Takatrash.
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when and author is writing a story/plot, the author must have the general bases of the plot well established, leaving only the details to be established later, the authors who are talented, or intelligent enough write in a way that gives readers "clues", "hints"or "leads" of important events, places or characters that will appear in the future. This technique of writing allows author's readers to maintain the structural thread of the plot and most important of all, it makes author's work look well structured and well thought out. there are many examples of this, both in western and eastern literature for example; J.K. Rowling in harry pother books, she mentions the prison of azkaban in her book number 1, later said prison becomes relevant and is addressed in depth in book number 3. George R. R. Martin in book number 1 of game of thrones mentions the "white walkers" briefly, later he introduce them very thoroughly in book number 6. Eiichirō Oda in one piece introduces the concept of "seven warlords of sea" shortly before the arlong park arc, oda sensei even reveals all of the seven warlords of sea real names, we would see some of them up to 8 years later (in real time) Gege Akutami in jujutsu kaisen introduces the noble families of sorcerers in the first 10 chapters even though we won't know more about them until 80 chapters later Can you see the difference? between thinking and planning before writing and simply improvising the story(like yuri does)? Why do you think that yuri takes longer than before to write the volumes, why do you think that in the WN there were never any wise gods, or demons, or a dragon king, or rules, or any of that rubbish taken from the sleeve?, I'll tell you to why. it because yuri has no idea what he's doing, he's improvising what if in the next volume Yuri Kitiyama writes that there is a country of demons under garlack kimdom, and in that country everyone is stronger than dragon king, do you just accept it? what if in the next vol mr yuri writes that Cristina and Flora have a male brother, and that he went to the brothel and that's why he hadn't turned up, do you just believe it? what if in the next vol Yuri reveals that Liselotte has 8 twin sisters, and that each appearance of Liselote has been a different Liselote, do you accept it and just swallow it I have always thought that there are 2 types of readers, those who think, criticize and reason, and those who eat everything that is thrown at them, have no critical thinking and settle for anything, what kind of reader do you want to be? Quote:
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Now what did Taka do with the same chance he got as Aki, he went (insert voice of someone who really needs to touch grass) "UUughg, MiHArU lets get married and have lots of kids." So I'd say they've been very kind with him, because he, Tak couldn't be bothered to give a damn about Aki, Masato, Satsuki, Liliana (his birth mother wouldn't dare be as good/slefless to him for a day as Liliana has been for months) and best of all, he doesn't care about Miharu too, I believe his whole obsession with Miharu schtick is just him trying to cope with the mismatched duo of: an isekai that keeps slapping him back to reality and his peak lv immaturity which was cultured in the warm embrace of modern society Japan. Imho, the mistake of the mansion people was thinking "we want him to get better, but he's the only one who can make himself better," maybe for them that's how it is, but most people only grow when forced to, they don't go out of their way to grow up, and Takahisa is so bad he won't grow even when forced to, what do you do? You give him a guide/mentor/sensei and a complete change in environment. I think Takahisa going forward has 2 possibilities, assuming he escapes Garlark safely: either Rio ends his life, or Rio becomes his mentor in life (inb4 I'm wrong about both.) I'm also really digging how the day he leaves the castle he takes a life, bruh what happened to talking it out even with the worst of scum. It may be just me but karma moments like that seem so real, like when you call someone's actions out so high on your horse only to end up doing the same as them, what now then, reality is giving you your just deserts and your justice sounding arguments aren't worth nothing now. The only drawback to the scene is that he doesn't remember the guy he called out so much; Rio. One last note about Takahisa, whatever his motivation, I think the best thing he did is his escape; dude needs a change in perspective, he's not gonna get it being in the same places, surrounded by the same people. Just put him in a forest with nothing and see how much he grows. I guess I'm the only reader who's becoming really interested and invested in Takahisa though, a short lived interest which would die out the moment the author butchers any semblance of chance of character development for him, I'm sure. |
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i realized that Yuri Kitayama does not think before writting, he just writes what comes to his mind at the moment, and the worst thing is that he writes it with his feet, because what he writes is rubbish
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Because Takatrash himself is against on killing someone. It's one of his criticism against Rio. Which makes him a Hypocrite. At least Yuri Kitayama doesn't whine, ending his beloved series because people pirate his stuff, instead of thinking the people who supported his novel. Last edited by KairuParreno; 2023-02-02 at 04:30. |
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The first time I here that someone needs to absolutely hint at something's existence a x time in advance for it to be a valid element of a novel. The only thing that you explained is something everyone already knew, that among the many types of authors there are ones that let the elements they are going to use in their books in sight in advance and some that don't and just use them for surprising you. Then you used one of those types as an excuse for talking the other down. Not to say that not letting an element of the world in sight in advance isn't any kind of absolute proof that it wasn't thought up ahead enough and is just improvisation. Because another take of everything you have just said is that J.K. Rowling introduced Azkaban in volume 1 and didn't bother to explain about it until volume 3, that in the end is exactly the same result that just introducing Azkaban in volume 3 and explaining what it is at that same moment, and that is exactly what Kitayama and many other authors do, a different way of getting the same end result. Did you really think people can't realize that adding 2+3 gives the same result that adding 3+2? The author already explained on his twitter before this book was published that it took him longer to write it because he had been busy taking care of anime stuff. In the WN there weren't any of those elements because he didn't continue it long enough for introducing them, as simple as that. The part about him improvising is as always just something you claim without really knowing. And to finish it, the classic troll move, the absurd argument followed by a pretension of intelligence. In the world map the author published years ago Reis' country was already present, unnamed but present, the author has just given a name, a history and a use to a plot of land we haven't been introduced to yet. that's it, nothing nowhere near the crap taken out of left field you have just said. Lastly, yes, you can criticize a book, of course you can, criticize that's it, but you have went past criticizing and have been already for a long time in the simple insult and mockery territoty, and to make things worse you do it without reading the books yourself.
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The whole thing about the rules surrounding transcendentals, and the transcendentals themselves, was foreshadowed ahead of time. I didn't notice myself for whatever reason, but a few fans in a Discord server I'm in did. They hate the reveal itself but can't talk bad about it that much because it was foreshadowed already.
And yeah, if the author already showed the country that he revealed Riess to be the pope of way earlier on the map, then even if he hadn't given it a name until now, it still means he'd already planned this out since way earlier. I agree with Nekodamashii about Takatrash. He hasn't changed at all. He's still the same hypocritical bastard he always has been. Only difference is he killed someone--but he did so even though he'd said before that he never would when he was calling Rio out on it before.
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also, christina and flora having a half brother is not that farfetched since philip is a king(he should have multiple wives) |
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For information I only read the mtl version which has some prounonn issues and sometimes it changes the meaning completely (But don't get me wrong, I am very grateful to have this early translation). Back to Takahisa, the guy envisionned his wedding with Miharu before getting her forgiveness. He says he does not want to force her to come with him but he uses any means to achieve this goal including his siblings and Liliana to create some affectionary blackmail. Haruto's transcendance finally has little matter to him he just does not understand why he tried to kidnapp Miharu. Now he failed and he can only blame himself for that mistake (even though I found Satsuki quite harsh) And with the utmost respect, when you are mentally unstable and have a divine arm of fire in a royal capital with a lot of people, I don't think escaping is the "best thing to do". ![]() |
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Roberto bro, you have the right to whatever opinion you have and Jagt or anybody else has the right to an opinion on your opinion. Now if you could download a more well mannered vocabulary and deploy it here, that would spark joy.
On a different tangent tho, have you ever written a thesis or project report. That stuff is a pain in the neck to make, and I think writing novels is much more harder, let alone writing them every 3 to 6 months, not everyone just writes sasuga Ainz-sama and calls it a day. So maybe you could find it in you to show a bit of respect to the author of the novel you're clearly so invested in. Altho if the result of improvising at every turn and writing with his feet is these couple last volumes, then I can't wait to see him take his time to think and write with his hands; I'm sure it will be fantastic. Btw, what you call intelligent writing in giving hints before hand is imho peak weak writing. You can see everything before it happens and usually those sort of authors also don't have enough drive to write a different result to different problems; so you end up knowing what happens in advance and knowing all the consequences that come out of it; which is often times MC great, MC supreme; I guess you read so much of that your brain ended up going smooth, and now you think you know what intelligence is. I'm really sorry for saying it like this, if you feel offended by this opinion then I will apologize in advance but I kind of tried copying how you talk about the author. Last edited by hihoperorin; 2023-02-03 at 01:59. |
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