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[dniv]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I lol'd at the comments

Lol.

This is the first time I've seen Kamachi do something as obvious like this. The beginning of NT 7 was great, but still not as great as THIS

[OverNOut]

Lol, that SS sounds great. There's piranhas and bears at that hot spring inn (wouldn't want to have a vacation there). Touma not only attracts girls but dogs too, ROFL.

Now how many SS are they which haven't been translated yet?

[Master Assassin]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Also, why is Aogami not dead yet ? He's even lower than Kamijou on the sacrificial food chain

Psh, he's part of the Delta Force d'uh. There cannot be a Delta Force if he goes out.

[Birdway]

Aogami can't die, he can fight heroes with his bare fists!!!


So this SS was Kumokawa's doing?
That makes me wish more to see it translated.

[kaizerknight01]

Originally Posted by Birdway

Aogami can't die, he can fight heroes with his bare fists!!!


So this SS was Kumokawa's doing?
That makes me wish more to see it translated.

maybe because he's a Heroic spirit which he gets energy/mana form fetishes

[dniv]

Spoiler for Wikedia info about the real Crowley's philosophy and about what is beyond Aiwass. This could be a large spoiler so be careful:

"Heru-ra-ha is a composite deity within Thelema, a religion that began in 1904 with Aleister Crowley and his Book of the Law. Heru-ra-ha is composed of Ra-Hoor-Khuit and Hoor-paar-kraat.

The Active Aspect of Heru-ra-ha is Ra-Hoor-Khuit

Within Thelema, Ra-Hoor-Khuit is called the Lord of the Aeon and The Crowned and Conquering Child.

The Passive Aspect of Heru-ra-ha is Hoor-pa-kraat

Aiwass, the being who dictated The Book of the Law to Crowley, in the book's first chapter introduces himself as "the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat.

The former view in the works of Aleister Crowley portrays Ra-Hoor-Khuit—in place of the Golden Dawn's Osiris/Jesus

as a model for the initiate, and thus describes attainment as a natural growth process, de-emphasizing the metaphor of death and resurrection. In the second view, the Golden Dawn placed Hoor-paar-kraat at the center of their Hall of Ma'at while the officers of the temple (one of whom represented Horus) revolved around him."

Cited from Wikipedia.

So I personally believe that the fun does not stop with Aiwass guys. It's going to get a lot worse.

[Suzuku]

Yeah. I have no idea what any of that means though.

[Acer]

rereading fights Touma in the last volumes, I was quite desire to see in the future an arc focused only on street fight, without any supernatural power, just punches, kicks, knees, etc., I wonder if the Kamachi could do something like this, would be a good way to explore more levels 0, although unfortunately I know that the chances of something happening are very low.

[Raisingfalcon]

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Doubt it, its academy city by the way so its even more unlikely. Street fights would fall under Tsuchimikado vs touma.

Even though for next volume I think it will be a magic side story, probably away from academy city(nooo). Already 3 volumes took and 2 arcs to place in academy city so its just natural for the story to move somewhere else but i hope it stays in academy city.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Raisingfalcon

^
Doubt it, its academy city by the way so its even more unlikely. Street fights would fall under Tsuchimikado vs touma.

Even though for next volume I think it will be a magic side story, probably away from academy city(nooo). Already 3 volumes took and 2 arcs to place in academy city so its just natural for the story to move somewhere else but i hope it stays in academy city.

Regardless of what we'll eventually see, I'm sure it'll be amazing. So... no worries.

AC= more harem building; Magic=IB building/ possible Accel joining.

I like both of these However, it's even better when both happen at once.

E.G. Like with Rensa and IB

[kaizerknight01]

Originally Posted by dniv

Regardless of what we'll eventually see, I'm sure it'll be amazing. So... no worries.

AC= more harem building; Magic=IB building/ possible Accel joining.

I like both of these However, it's even better when both happen at once.

E.G. Like with Rensa and IB

More like Mecha musume route is unlocked

Btw about the Rensa's with Heaven Caneller expertise and the ever evolving AC tech the Rensa's might walk and even fly with smaller bodies ...like a Busou Shiki

Spoiler for Example of Busou Shiki's:

[dniv]

Originally Posted by kaizerknight01

More like Mecha musume route is unlocked

Btw about the Rensa's with Heaven Caneller expertise and the ever evolving AC tech the Rensa's might walk and even fly with smaller bodies ...like a Busou Shiki

Spoiler for Example of Busou Shiki's:

I'm in the wrong country to watch this The maker of that video is harsh to U.S. citizens I guess...

Busou Shiki... hmm...

I don't know why? But actually, now that Kuroyoru is "good" I have to say. She is kinda one of the hotter characters in the series. No joke. I'd put her up there with Lessar... Poor Hamazura. All the girls that love him are Yandere in some way. If they're not, they are lazy and Possessive. Lol. Gotta love Hamazura. I think he's learning from Touma: about girls AND misfortune

By the way: is it just me, or is Othinus an annoying character e.g. she's mean and should lose/die soon enough. I'm more interested in seeing Aleister vs. Laura than Gremlin vs. AC.

WWIV sounds more intriguing to me Also, I hope we more of Aleister in upcoming volumes. Whenever he is involved we know that things are getting serious.

It'd be cool if we see some Kiharas trying to mess with him... I wonder what he would do to them in that case

[silverexorcist]

Hm...When you think about it, Awaiss could be considered a magical angel even though he/she (it) manifests using scientific methods. Considering that the will of Last Order exists on the same system--or rather, IS that very system--I'm beginning to see some interesting relationships when I compare it to the real ideas of Aleister Crowley and his Golden 'cabal'. I really am curious as to how Kamachi-dono is interpreting it all.

Such as, maybe, the 'science' used to create espers being an Aeon above magic. It seems strange that normal esper powers would be in the Aeon of Osiris while normal magic is as well.

Spoiler for Info on real concept behind Aeons:

The Aeon of Osiris refers to the classical and medieval times, where people commonly worshipped a single male god--a.k.a. the Judeo-Christian God, which magic in TMnI is usually based around. The Aeon of Horus refers to the age of self-realization and actualization, a.k.a. secularism and humanism, which was probably referring to what started during the Renaissance when people began to lose faith and turned to science. This is strange since Aiwass referred to Accelerator's black wings (and probably his esper ability in general) as part of the Aeon of Horus, which would clearly mean all espers are in the same Aeon. Clearly, looking at it won't be of any help in guessing what Kamachi is thinking or planning, since this clearly contradicts. I have no doubt he has some grand explanation that will blow our minds.

After seeing the small scene during the NT6 with Aogami and Judgment along with Aihana Etsu in the NT7, I can see something interesting heading our way in respect to the number 6. Sure, I'm forcing a connection between the two events, but it's possible. I'd love to see some clarification in the next volume, at the very least.

So far, we've had Christian magic, Norse magic, and non-specific Thelema magic. I am convinced we'll be seeing Egyptian magic next, or at some point in the future. I have a gut feeling that the entire situation with the elements of the four Archangels distorting is Egyptian in origin. Kamijou will visit Egypt or some other Arab country at the very least. I'll put money on that now.

And I can see the moment Mugino and Kamijou meet. We all know it's coming, and it's going to be freaking hilarious.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by silverexorcist

Hm...When you think about it, Awaiss could be considered a magical angel even though he/she (it) manifests using scientific methods. Considering that the will of Last Order exists on the same system--or rather, IS that very system--I'm beginning to see some interesting relationships when I compare it to the real ideas of Aleister Crowley and his Golden 'cabal'. I really am curious as to how Kamachi-dono is interpreting it all.

Such as, maybe, the 'science' used to create espers being an Aeon above magic. It seems strange that normal esper powers would be in the Aeon of Osiris while normal magic is as well.

Spoiler for Info on real concept behind Aeons:

The Aeon of Osiris refers to the classical and medieval times, where people commonly worshipped a single male god--a.k.a. the Judeo-Christian God, which magic in TMnI is usually based around. The Aeon of Horus refers to the age of self-realization and actualization, a.k.a. secularism and humanism, which was probably referring to what started during the Renaissance when people began to lose faith and turned to science. This is strange since Aiwass referred to Accelerator's black wings (and probably his esper ability in general) as part of the Aeon of Horus, which would clearly mean all espers are in the same Aeon. Clearly, looking at it won't be of any help in guessing what Kamachi is thinking or planning, since this clearly contradicts. I have no doubt he has some grand explanation that will blow our minds.

After seeing the small scene during the NT6 with Aogami and Judgment along with Aihana Etsu in the NT7, I can see something interesting heading our way in respect to the number 6. Sure, I'm forcing a connection between the two events, but it's possible. I'd love to see some clarification in the next volume, at the very least.

So far, we've had Christian magic, Norse magic, and non-specific Thelema magic. I am convinced we'll be seeing Egyptian magic next, or at some point in the future. I have a gut feeling that the entire situation with the elements of the four Archangels distorting is Egyptian in origin. Kamijou will visit Egypt or some other Arab country at the very least. I'll put money on that now.

And I can see the moment Mugino and Kamijou meet. We all know it's coming, and it's going to be freaking hilarious.

As to your last comment, I was hoping for that in NT 7... but it didn't happen

Your theory about Aihana Etsu (most likely Aogami Pierce) and his NT 6 appearance is interesting... I still think it might just be fanservice... I mean there isn't really any reason Aogami wouldn't be that strong. He only lost in Daihasesai because Touma distracted him... I'm not sure though... I hope we have some more info revealed.

I agree with the EGYPT idea. Kamijou will most certainly eventually go to Egypt. I'm sure Egypt will be one of the last places that he visits before the final showdown which would probably happen in AC. I say this because of

Spoiler for newest Aeon after Horus don't read this unless you want to be possibly spoiled:

MAAT

About Accelerator's wings: Aiwass actually said that Accelerator wasn't from the aeon of Horus while Aiwass himself was. I think winged Accelerator might have barely touched the aeon of Horus but I somewhat doubt it. I rather believe that winged (angel accelerator is in the aeon of Horus because in this form he has a halo like AIWASS). I think the Aeon of Horus represents the science side getting influence over the world at the end of WWIII. WWIV, if it happens would be the war for

Spoiler for newest Aeon after Horus don't read this unless you want to be possibly spoiled:

MAAT e.g. order, control over chaos

I think Espers are an attempt at generating something that at its highest level (level 6) is the aeon of horus, the next aeon. As soon as Accelerator achieved this, it was revealed that Crowley is looking for more. That's how I feel about this. level 6 (the ability to understand God's systems) was equal to level 6. I think Touma can defeat the systems so he'd be the equivalent of level 7 with IB... (if that existed).

You should remember also that Aiwass said he can transform once. This means that he might be able to enter another AEON in terms of strength? I am curious about his strongest form.

What I am curious about is what you thought the Misaka Network represented. I hadn't managed to figure anything out about that yet. I'm interesting in what you concluded.

What I do believe however is that the AIM stuck inside Academy City makes Academy City function as a temple. It seems pretty likely to me that Aleister wants to make AIM expand across the entire world so that he can do something with it... What bothers me is that Aleister seems not to be that concerned in actuality with being a thought being yet... In the latest volume, Yakumi managed to do that and could have done an analogue of this... (by expanding to the rest of the world...) However, if this were all Aleister were trying to do... I don't see why he needs Hyouka, LO, or Accelerator....................................... ...............................................
Oh wait. I get it. I feel like an idiot. A complete idiot.

Spoiler for theory for Aleister Crowley's plan:

We already knew he was making an aritificial heaven right? Well... he had discovered magic spells that had broken new grounds in magical research. Aleister Crowley managed to discover a region overlapping between heaven and hell/ another dimension that he used to make amazing new spells... AIWASS was supposed to have told him about this... Aleister is artificially trying to interefere with the base of the world as we were told before. Aleister praised Fiamma for trying to become the person superior to God.

Let me give my theory:

Aleister Crowley is some deluded idealistic person that is trying to make himself God or to make the other being mentioned in my other spoiler as God. This being would have Aiwass, and the three other angels (4 angels in total) as his servants or whatever... Aleister Crowley would be a kind of higher being (maybe superior to God? as well). AIM is like magic. Leylines produce magic. AIM is produced by other things... espers... and possibly other sources? The Misaka Clones are leylines... the imaginary number district is an example of how things would work. The angels would be able to control everything about reality

Spoiler for Naruto:

Madara Uchiha... anyone...

Aleister would be God. He would surpass a Magic God who would have a 50% chance of shaping reality because Aleister himself would create the worlds' rules. If he eliminated magic at the same time... he would prevent any opposition to his plans... maybe only he could use magic or something. Maybe he wants to order the world in his own way.

For example, he makes extreme plans and calculations in how he is going to figure out/determine everyone's actions that lead to his master plan. This is a sign of him being a perfectionist and a control freak. This could point to the fact that he wants to plan to give him absolute control of everything. Assuming his ideals/illusions were broken a long time ago by the Anglican church which was just evil... he wanted to fix the world and rid it of corruption. Accelerator surpassing his trials and being able to become good was only possible because a new system that judged goodness/ability to become an angel was in place instead. I feel like this idea is kind of plausible.

This is of course speculation... but it doesn't seem that impossible at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if we had an exchange at some point:

Touma: "Why are you doing this?"
Aleister: "Because people are horrible at heart and I'm going to change them."
Touma: "People are good at heart and are stronger than you think!"
Aleister: (Tells Story)
Touma: "..."
Aleister: "So do you really think that people can be good. There are some people/beings that can never be 'good' no matter what happens. People who are evil never become forgiven, no matter how hard they try to redeem themselves. I am chased by people... (blah blah blah)"
Touma: "I disagree (blah blah blah)."
Aleister: "Well you don't have IB anymore so there."
Touma: "(Somehow getting IB back) Well I don't care. I can't let you do this (blah blah blah)... I will still fight and I will break your illusions!" (punches out Aleister)...

That would be cool... I wish it were real...

[Blizzard]

BTW can this all be leading up to something?

Spoiler for NT4:

The Student Keeper was one of the safety measures of Academy City. The main aim was to send teachers to the dormitories of students to teach them and counsel them to prevent them from being unable to return to school life because they kept skipping class.

Spoiler for NT5 Yoshikawa:

“I want to be a teacher but not one related to genetics. I doubt I can get to be a homeroom teacher in a school, but the hurdle is much lower for a Student Keeper. …You don’t need a teaching license for that. It seems they even hire normal people from companies. …Hm?”

Spoiler for NT5 Tsukuyomi:

“U-um… As your teacher, I do find these repeated absences to be a real problem, Kamijou-chan. In fact, this has reached the point where homework and supplementary lessons can’t cover it all.”

[silverexorcist]

Foreshadowing, perhaps? I can see Kamijou's misfortune bring Yoshikawa into his form during a crucial moment for this reason, ad e has to find a way to escape or else all of Aademy City would be destroyed...after the situation in the School Garden, it seems Kamijou-sama has finally resigned himself to the inevitable role of saving countless people as if it were an everyday thing. That's our level 0 hero for you. Come to think of it, Kihara Kagun was Student Keeper too, wasn't he? Hmm...I wonder if there is a relation...

And is it just me or have there been noticeable small parts in percent volumes that have no apparent relevance to the story whatsoever? Such as Shokuhou's strange means of teasing Misaka in NT6 and those people in costumes in NT6 that passed by our trio of high leveled magicians and the two Rouran girls? It may have significance elsewhere that I missed, but I'm harboring the possibility that it's hinting toward some plot for the Railgun manga. At least, I hope so.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Blizzard

BTW can this all be leading up to something?

Spoiler for NT4:

The Student Keeper was one of the safety measures of Academy City. The main aim was to send teachers to the dormitories of students to teach them and counsel them to prevent them from being unable to return to school life because they kept skipping class.

Spoiler for NT5 Yoshikawa:

“I want to be a teacher but not one related to genetics. I doubt I can get to be a homeroom teacher in a school, but the hurdle is much lower for a Student Keeper. …You don’t need a teaching license for that. It seems they even hire normal people from companies. …Hm?”

Spoiler for NT5 Tsukuyomi:

“U-um… As your teacher, I do find these repeated absences to be a real problem, Kamijou-chan. In fact, this has reached the point where homework and supplementary lessons can’t cover it all.”

I didn't notice any of that. Wow: that's really smart. That's probably going to happen. I'm surprised that you noticed that. That's really impressive

Originally Posted by silverexorcist

Foreshadowing, perhaps? I can see Kamijou's misfortune bring Yoshikawa into his form during a crucial moment for this reason, ad e has to find a way to escape or else all of Aademy City would be destroyed...after the situation in the School Garden, it seems Kamijou-sama has finally resigned himself to the inevitable role of saving countless people as if it were an everyday thing. That's our level 0 hero for you. Come to think of it, Kihara Kagun was Student Keeper too, wasn't he? Hmm...I wonder if there is a relation...

And is it just me or have there been noticeable small parts in percent volumes that have no apparent relevance to the story whatsoever? Such as Shokuhou's strange means of teasing Misaka in NT6 and those people in costumes in NT6 that passed by our trio of high leveled magicians and the two Rouran girls? It may have significance elsewhere that I missed, but I'm harboring the possibility that it's hinting toward some plot for the Railgun manga. At least, I hope so.

By relation, you mean like Yoshikawa might leave AC like Kihara Kagun?... I don't think so... I'm not really sure... It would be a good way to permanently connect Accelerator and Touma though. This could lead to a future Accelerator apologizes to Misaka Mikoto very awkward situation... but we'll see. If Yoshikawa becomes a student keeper of Fremea as well if she keeps on having troubles, this would also connect Hamazura to the two of them... I really want it to happen. I don't know why, but I love it for some reason when Touma, Hamazura, and Accelerator are together. It just feels "nice"... I really don't know why though. By nice, I mean like 3 times as cool... If all level 5's were together/semi-friendly with each other all of the time... now that would be amazing... I hope that happens eventually...

In terms of Shokuhou, she and Mikoto want to apply to Touma's school. They both obviously like him, so that's probably true. If Aogami is the #6 (which he's probably not), Shokuhou could have met him then (she does know the #6 after all).

I'm curious to see if we find out more about this:

the Misaka clones call themselves Misaka and LO says Misaka as Misaka.

Considering the fact that the will of the Misaka Network fills all of the Individual clones, each clone says Misaka because they have her spirit in them.

When LO says something in the form of Misaka as Misaka, she is a clone filled with the will of the Misaka network who guides the entire network because Misaka as Misaka means that whatever she says kind of determines how the other Misakas feel as we saw even with Worst. But... when the will of the Misaka Network overshadows her, it speaks in terms of an email because it can't talk to Accel directly... I feel like the will of the Misaka Network is "a soul" (like in the trinity) or some other consciousness... is it an AIM thought being? That would be interesting... I hope we learn more about the will of the Misaka Network. The way it talked to Accelerator, it seems older than him/ more mature than him. It refers to Kamijou as Kamijou-chan... I wonder if people might eventually ship the will of the network and Accelerator... ... ... ... ...

I am really curious to learn how Mikoto will eventually react when she learns about all of this. There is no way she isn't going to eventually find out. I wonder if her dad and mom will also find out... they might eventually........ right? When this does happen I will pity all those poor souls involved in that unfortunate situation

[faiz blaster]

Originally Posted by Blizzard

BTW can this all be leading up to something?

Spoiler for NT4:

The Student Keeper was one of the safety measures of Academy City. The main aim was to send teachers to the dormitories of students to teach them and counsel them to prevent them from being unable to return to school life because they kept skipping class.

Spoiler for NT5 Yoshikawa:

“I want to be a teacher but not one related to genetics. I doubt I can get to be a homeroom teacher in a school, but the hurdle is much lower for a Student Keeper. …You don’t need a teaching license for that. It seems they even hire normal people from companies. …Hm?”

Spoiler for NT5 Tsukuyomi:

“U-um… As your teacher, I do find these repeated absences to be a real problem, Kamijou-chan. In fact, this has reached the point where homework and supplementary lessons can’t cover it all.”

Indeed, this seems like foreshadowing for the introduction of a new character. Kamijou's very own, private Student Keeper perhaps? Who knows, it might even be someone who is fully aware of the whole Magic-x-Science thing and can actually advise him on that regard (I always felt like Kamijou would do good with a Merlin-like mentor figure).

[dniv]

Originally Posted by faiz blaster

Indeed, this seems like foreshadowing for the introduction of a new character. Kamijou's very own, private Student Keeper perhaps? Who knows, it might even be someone who is fully aware of the whole Magic-x-Science thing and can actually advise him on that regard (I always felt like Kamijou would do good with a Merlin-like mentor figure).

Why not make the student keeper Yoshikawa/Yomikawa (my mind mixes up their names sadly) (the one who's the badass and annoys Hamazura). This would certainly connect Hamazura, Accelerator, Touma... eventually.

[Blizzard]

Originally Posted by dniv

Why not make the student keeper Yoshikawa/Yomikawa (my mind mixes up their names sadly) (the one who's the badass and annoys Hamazura). This would certainly connect Hamazura, Accelerator, Touma... eventually.

Yoshikawa is the teacher wannabee former(?) mad scientist. Yomikawa is already Touma's P.E. teacher at school and fought directly besides him with rest of Anti-Skill during the first Kazakiri Arc (also yeah Hamazura's sitcom arch-nemesis) Imagine how awkward things would get between Touma and Accelerator if both his mommies became his teachers.