(CR) Saki Achiga-hen: Episode of Side-A (anime)

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Uh, Scarlet, we already visit the manga thread, so no need for us to share the sensitive info.

*coughs*

I think someone mentioned that the BGM to these past few episodes of Achiga-hen wouldn't be too out of place in a Gundam or mecha series. I kind of agree, given the force of nature everyone is trying to endure.

Oh right... Whoops...

No kidding...

-Toki's one turn ahead= X-Rounders/ Geass(See future movements.,) covers one eye or none.

-Then this episode... Toki's two-turn ahead= Always thought is 1 eye... now become 2 eyes... Isn't that Setsuna's Innovator's eyes(look alike.).

Back on the quote. Who wouldn't agree the BGM is not out of place to Gundam or macha series, if the 2 comments before this is true?

So...if all these are true, then that means NT-D vs others of all series in a mahjong game...(It will be a bad battle.)

[Triple_R]

After discussing this with Myssa Rei via PMs, I now see the broader plan at work here, and it is probably a good one.

[RegalStar]

Double Riichi Ippatsu huh?

Spoiler for Kind of reminds me of this...:

[Qilin]

I just watched episde 10, and it can pretty much be summarized as Teru steamrolling the competition, not that I didn't know already.

On the bright side, it looks like Toki has a plan that could topple Teru's current streak. But even if they do stop Teru's dealership, they're still just in the east round, which means that Teru will have yet another turn as a dealer in the south round. They still have a long way to go before they can completely stop the Teru train.

...And then we have Kuro who did just about nothing for the entire episode besides holding on to the dora tiles. Watching her like this was just sad, even if she did provide a wealth of reaction faces throughout the episode.

I'm really looking forward to Subara's obligatory backstory.

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by RegalStar

Double Riichi Ippatsu huh?

Spoiler for Kind of reminds me of this...:

Lucky no one knows you are waiting on a single chun... Though you are quite lucky you got a Double Riichi ippastsu tsumo...(if not, =.=)

A-san: Argh he riichi... somemore double... Damn I throw nan first.
*throws nan, find out it is safe.*
B,C-san: Nan is safe... Start throwing!
*you win by self-draw*
A,B,C-san: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

[night_sentinel]

Finally managed to watch episode 10. I'm also of the same opinion as Qilin...

I think this episode can be summed up into two words - Teru wins.

I think its a fairly accurate summation considering no one beside Teru has won a single hand in this episode. If I am to compare this to a fighting game Teru managed to last the whole round with a perfect hp by continuing to combo her opponents to the ground.

But, I suppose there is still hope. Achiga seemed to have managed to find a chink in Teru's armor. And Toki is planning to use her dangerously forbidden technique to stop Teru. Hopefully, this would be enough.

Though nothing notable happened beside the whole Teru domination. I find that there are a lot of interesting tidbits of information imparted throughout the whole episode.


Info 1: Teru can drop a team below to zero in the vanguard match
I think this is already said by Requiem-x, but there is a very real possibility that Teru will drop a team below zero and in fact already have done so in other matches which is frankly scary considering each team starts at 100,000 points. So yeah, it is possible that the vanguard match is the only match that we would see in the semifinals if Teru keeps dominating.

I've also realized how lucky Kuro and co are when Teru managed to be seated as first dealer on the first hanchan because Teru using her magical mirror ability at the beginning means she won't win on that round and this means Teru loses one dealership automatically. Considering how hard it is to stop they're lucky that Teru only has 3 available instead of the usual 4.


Info 2 : Teru might have a weakness
Teru who seemed to be invincible at the moment might have a weakness or limitation like Kuro regarding her hand value. It is possible she needs to have a higher value hand than her previous win. Good of Achiga to observe that. Now, all they have to do is find someway to exploit it which is easier said than done.


Info 3: Toki has a dangerous forbidden technique
Toki has a dangerous forbidden technique that will allow her to see twice as much into the future at the cost of her health. Toki then decided to use this technique at the end of the episode.

Truthfully, I hope that Toki will be okay she seemed to be raising deathflags in this episode with her continuous use of her mystic eyes of precognition making her lose her stamina and then using a more strenuous technique that is noted to be even more dangerous to her health. Please Toki hang in there!

Info 4: Toki is a pervert or at least very attracted to Ryuuka
The very first thing that Toki did when she was released from the slaugh - I meant match is bury herself in Ryuuka's breast. Then, she probably spent the whole break period like always sleeping on Ryuuka's thighs.

But, this is not the damming evidence! In the flashback sequence Toki recognized Ryuuka's thighs and even while losing consciousness is familiar enough with it to recognize that its upside-down. I suppose spending as close as 24/7 resting on something will make you an expert on it Toki.

And the best part, Toki's method to know if she's awake or in a dream is to grab Ryuuka's breast. I wonder how the Ryuuka on Toki's dream acts whenever Toki grab her dream breast ...

Info 5: Not everyone is buying Teru's "I have no sister" spiel
Remember the original season where Teru denies that she has a sister namely Saki. Well, guess what it seemed a lot of people that or at the very least Senriyama is privately suspecting the two are related despite Teru's words. The moment Teru calls a kan, Toki immediately recalls Saki and draws a connection.

I suppose a lot more people are privately nursing doubts despite Teru's claims. It helps that the two player in question resemble each other and have the same surname plus demonic level of mahjong skill.

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Finally managed to watch episode 10. I'm also of the same opinion as Qilin...

I think this episode can be summed up into two words - Teru wins.

I think its a fairly accurate summation considering no one beside Teru has won a single hand in this episode. If I am to compare this to a fighting game Teru managed to last the whole round with a perfect hp by continuing to combo her opponents to the ground.

But, I suppose there is still hope. Achiga seemed to have managed to find a chink in Teru's armor. And Toki is planning to use her dangerously forbidden technique to stop Teru. Hopefully, this would be enough.

Though nothing notable happened beside the whole Teru domination. I find that there are a lot of interesting tidbits of information imparted throughout the whole episode.

-snip

I suppose a lot more people are privately nursing doubts despite Teru's claims. It helps that the two player in question resemble each other and have the same surname plus demonic level of mahjong skill.

Teru dominates this episode lol... But who knew that that sparks the innovator power in Toki?

Let me go through all the info...

Info 1: If we assume we never read the manga, yes it is quite possible that the match will end with someone going negative, in East 4th round.

Info 2: Well that weakness is the one that may or may not change the decision of info 1. But remember this, Teru resets the points back to noob points, then increase from there again. That weakness is what makes it possible to exploit as...
1. It is quite easy to read what she may have.(... I will leave this out till episode 11 or 12, depending on the situation.)
2. If she riichi, and just nice is 2 han higher if ippatsu tsumo, and needed 2 han to get to next level.(Mangan- Haneman or baiman) Breaking it is quite easy, but we don't know if she will play at same points.
As it gets higher it becomes harder.

Info 3: Get me the Innovators. I need to talk to them personally about the power embedded on Toki, and the situation.

Info 4: Err.... I have nothing to say about this. But if mangatron is here, he will create hell mode here. (You don't want to know the Dream Ryuuka will react.. )

Info 5: Teru's skill make use of all the skills we know in Saki that she can use.(Saki's rinshan kaihou, Koromo's Haitei Raoyue or Hotei, and many more.)
Its quite random since the skill to increase points by points can be any other skills.



If you want to know about hans and fus, and how to calculate them, go wikipedia and search. For now I post this, it will be quite useful during Teru time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanes...s#Counting_han

Lets take the easy one from here.

Usually if its open chinitsu, it is 5 han(Confirm mangan, regardless of fus.)

If Teru's skill is increase to higher points, and she stopped at open chinitsu, She would either need:
Riichi, toitoi, riichi ippatsu, or tsumo without any open melds.

Note that the fus here after 5 han is usually considered "don't care" as anything higher than 5 han is ..... I leave the calculation to you... I suck at it.

... Though seriously, how they can tell how many fus are there just by looking and knowing it in split second...

[Kotohono]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

This was a pretty good episode... but if Teru wins literally every hand next week (after doing so this week, and all but two hands the first week) that's going to be awfully anti-climatic and frankly boring to me. What's the point of spending so much time on Toki like this, and building her up this way, if she doesn't actually get anywhere in the match itself?

If she won every hand someone hit zero for sure due her point increasing due, but more so due to the "Pa-Ren-Chan" rule(at the bottom of the page) where after winning 7 dealer hands, any hand becomes a yakuman meaning the point loss would almost guarantee to zero someone out.

While I think Teru ending the match via someone hitting Zero is definitely a possibility... I don't think it would happen in episode 11 .

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by Konakaga

If she won every hand someone hit zero for sure due her point increasing due, but more so due to the "Pa-Ren-Chan" rule(at the bottom of the page) where after winning 7 dealer hands, any hand becomes a yakuman meaning the point loss would almost guarantee to zero someone out.

While I think Teru ending the match via someone hitting Zero is definitely a possibility... I don't think it would happen in episode 11 .

The parenchan rule is often optional, we are not sure whether that rule is being used in Saki.

If so, oh great....

Speaking of which, is double yakuman(Tsi ii sou, Dai San Gen) considered double yakuman or still yakuman?

The only thing which I know is that...
-Suu An kou single wait, Thirdteen Orphans 13 way wait, and 4 triplets of winds, or Junsei Nine Gates is still considered yakuman though it is supposed to be double yakuman due to the tournament rules.

[Kotohono]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

The parenchan rule is often optional, we are not sure whether that rule is being used in Saki.

If so, oh great....

Speaking of which, is double yakuman(Tsi ii sou, Dai San Gen) considered double yakuman or still yakuman?

Considering the rules of the tournament are commented to "favor" luck I would expect the parenchan rule to be there, and for that hand it should be worth double yakuman, though if the hand became Tsi ii sou and Dai San Gen it is likely such hand would also be Suu An Kou(4 triplets) or Suu Kan Tsu(4 quads/Kans) putting it at a triple or even maybe quadra yakuman I believe .

[Kyuu]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

If you want to know about hans and fus, and how to calculate them, go wikipedia and search. For now I post this, it will be quite useful during Teru time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanes...s#Counting_han

That section needs to be rewritten to be more clear. When I was trying to learn han and fu count, that article didn't serve me justice. I had to turn elsewhere.

This one may help:
http://www.japanesemahjong.net/mahjong-rules/score/

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by Konakaga

Considering the rules of the tournament are commented to "favor" luck I would expect the parenchan rule to be there, and for that hand it should be worth double yakuman, though if the hand became Tsi ii sou and Dai San Gen it is likely such hand would also be Suu An Kou(4 triplets) or Suu Kan Tsu(4 quads/Kans) putting it at a triple or even maybe quadra yakuman I believe .

Err... the 16th is double yakuman, but from 8th onwards is considered yakuman only.(From what some believe.)

I see...
So if I do this,
Ten ho
Tsi ii sou
Dai san gen
Suu an kou

It is considered quad yakuman right?

And if the rules states that Yakuman with Yakuman with considered double yakuman, and so on so forth, I can smell Teru is going to do a heavy hand after Yakuman.

There is a mission at I think episode 11 or 12... The mission is still unknown to Gundam Meisters...

Reason: Someone said that the BGM may not feel out if we put the BGM into Gundam or mecha series...

[Kyuu]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

Err... the 16th is double yakuman, but from 8th onwards is considered yakuman only.(From what some believe.)

Honba 16? By then, no one has any points left.

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

So if I do this:

Ten hou
Tsu ii sou
Dai san gen
Suu an kou

It is considered quad yakuman right?

Yes. And that's not even the highest combination possible. D:!!!

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by Kyuu

Honba 16? By then, no one has any points left.



Yes. And that's not even the highest combination possible. D:!!!

Not high enough?

How about this?

Ten ho
Suu An kou
Tsi ii sou
Dai San Gen
Parenchan

Hows that?

[Kyuu]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

Not high enough?

How about this?

Ten ho
Suu An kou
Tsi ii sou
Dai San Gen
Parenchan

Hows that?

That's 5. If you want 6 -- change Dansaigen to Daisushi. And it'll look like this:

Spoiler:

NOTE: It's also Suu Ankou Tanki (but apparently, it's only counted as 1, instead of 2).

So. Which Saki character is most likely to pull something like this off? To the best of my knowledge (off of spoilers), Jindai is the winds specialist. So, I'm going to assume she is the most likely to get that.

But of course, like hell, should Ritz even write something THAT ridiculous into the story. A score like that can knock out entire teams, let alone individual players.

[kona~chan]

Originally Posted by Kyuu

That's 5. If you want 6 -- change Dansaigen to Daisushi. And it'll look like this:

Spoiler:

NOTE: It's also Suu Ankou Tanki (but apparently, it's only counted as 1, instead of 2).

So. Which Saki character is most likely to pull something like this off? To the best of my knowledge (off of spoilers), Jindai is the winds specialist. So, I'm going to assume she is the most likely to get that.

But of course, like hell, should Ritz even write something THAT ridiculous into the story. A score like that can knock out entire teams, let alone individual players.

very possible if she do fusion with saki and imbued with luck from senoh kaori

[teja208]

Is it just me or Saki has be wearing long skirt AGAIN. Life is so cruel.

For future reference, if supposed a team got second in the Semi but one player is hospitalized and can't continue playing in the Finals, what then?

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by teja208

Is it just me or Saki has be wearing long skirt AGAIN. Life is so cruel.

Well, Ritz DID decide that Saki looked better wearing Someya's skirts.

[Marina2]

It's unfortunate that the rules stated "no double Yakuman in this tournament" so we won't see those high point hands.

One more interesting question: What will happen if Teru win with lower score hand than previous win?

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Well, Ritz DID decide that Saki looked better wearing Someya's skirts.

Interesting. So is the longer skirt a permanent change for Saki?

If so, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I guess it does convey maturity, and might look good on Saki when/if she's one of the vets of Team Kiyosumi.