To Aru Majutsu no Index II - Episode 19 Discussion / Poll

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by kitten320

But Index does over do it, all the bittings start to get more annoying than funny =/

Index is tsundere, she has as much tsun as she is dere. It's just that people tend to remember negative things better- it's a common human trait.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by kache

Because of

Spoiler for Vento's Power:

God's Divine Punishment

right? Does that move have an unlimited range?

The range depends on the users will

Spoiler:

in this arc. Vento only targets academy city but as fuze release. She lost control over divine punishment and that leads to a whole world range.

Basically the range of divine punishment is dependent on the users will. It can extend infinitely if needed. So hiding in mars or jupiter wouldn't help you from escaping divine punishment

[bizzi]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Index is tsundere, she has as much tsun as she is dere. It's just that people tend to remember negative things better- it's a common human trait.

More precisely, they remember different and/or controversial aspects better.
Each time she appears on screen she's ready for some biting or other mean words. Index shouldn't be seen behaving like that 90% of the time (the ED strengthens this controversial aspect).
I know that she's got a good side, but it's less and less shown.
Btw, when she's happy (well, normal ), I think it rarely has a link with Touma (again, I'm talking about the anime only).

[Cheese Ninja]

Is it just me, or shouldn't Kihara's anti-Accelerator martial art be impossible?

If you consider that Accelerator can easily deal with point blank explosions, which would have vectors of physical force coming from all different angles, including away from his body as they get deflected by the vectors he's already bounced back, Kihara's whole "I pull back right before I hit you" doesn't make any sense. And if he's already moving away from Accelerator when Kihara actually touches him, that doesn't make sense either, since if he's moving away from him, he wouldn't be touching him in the first place.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by bizzi

More precisely, they remember different and/or controversial aspects better.
Each time she appears on screen she's ready for some biting or other mean words. Index shouldn't be seen behaving like that 90% of the time (the ED strengthens this controversial aspect).
I know that she's got a good side, but it's less and less shown.
Btw, when she's happy (well, normal ), I think it rarely has a link with Touma (again, I'm talking about the anime only).

...Which again proves my point that people only remember the bad stuff, that's way it seem that there are more of those scenes where the truth is Index normal stance has been very nice with Touma. I don't see anyone commenting how happy she looked last episode when she finally found Touma, I didn't see anyone commenting how worried she was when Touma woke up in the Italian hospital.

Originally Posted by Cheese Ninja

Is it just me, or shouldn't Kihara's anti-Accelerator martial art be impossible?

If you consider that Accelerator can easily deal with point blank explosions, which would have vectors of physical force coming from all different angles, including away from his body as they get deflected by the vectors he's already bounced back, Kihara's whole "I pull back right before I hit you" doesn't make any sense. And if he's already moving away from Accelerator when Kihara actually touches him, that doesn't make sense either, since if he's moving away from him, he wouldn't be touching him in the first place.

There's a thin layer of AIM field surrounding Accelerator, Kihara stop in that field just before touching him, and yes it would imply that Kihara's reaction is faster than bullets and explosions.

Here's a gif to explain.

[Cosmic Eagle]

It's amazing from that gif how the "science" of Academy works....

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by bizzi

More precisely, they remember different and/or controversial aspects better.
Each time she appears on screen she's ready for some biting or other mean words. Index shouldn't be seen behaving like that 90% of the time (the ED strengthens this controversial aspect).
I know that she's got a good side, but it's less and less shown.
Btw, when she's happy (well, normal ), I think it rarely has a link with Touma (again, I'm talking about the anime only).

What?
Forgot the very first episode of this season? the trip on Italy before shit happens?
The ED shows how their life is each day when there aren't magicians trying to destroy the city with a cross, a fleet, etc.

Its the other characters who get in their way; Touma goes negative (with fukou da here and there) and Index getting angry at him being unlucky (with fanservice precedents and consquences).

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by kitten320

Finally things start to get interesting. Who cares about Mikoto? Never understood why she is so popular.... not that she is a bad character or anything but I don't find her that aweasome and interesting... the only time she was really interesting was sisters arc. And even then her sisters seemed better...

But she will get her time to shine eventually, there is now way she will do nothing in this science mess. So be patient, hope she will actually deliver something exciting^^

This episode makes understand better as to why Accelerator and Last Order are so popular, I also start to like them.

I can only imagine Touma's face when he'll find out who this "kind" guy is that Index and Last Order keep talking about

So magic and science side are working together now?

No. More like they are ripping each other to shreds now.

Edit: wow....2/10 with no real solid arguments apart from general whining....

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Edit: wow....2/10 with no real solid arguments apart from general whining....

With all due respect, let em. It's not like we're obligated to explain our reasons for doing what we do.

Beside, these kind of things are common for any popular series.

[SuzushinaYuriko]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Edit: wow....2/10 with no real solid arguments apart from general whining....

If it helps, that person is banned now. Thank god.

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

The range depends on the users will

Spoiler:

in this arc. Vento only targets academy city but as fuze release. She lost control over divine punishment and that leads to a whole world range.

Basically the range of divine punishment is dependent on the users will. It can extend infinitely if needed. So hiding in mars or jupiter wouldn't help you from escaping divine punishment

Actually, Divine Punishment naturally has a stupidly huge range. Vent knowingly use it despite it'll have a global effect.

[Cosmic Eagle]

At least it doesn't actually kill the affected...that'd be REALLY overpowered.

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

...Which again proves my point that people only remember the bad stuff, that's way it seem that there are more of those scenes where the truth is Index normal stance has been very nice with Touma. I don't see anyone commenting how happy she looked last episode when she finally found Touma, I didn't see anyone commenting how worried she was when Touma woke up in the Italian hospital.



There's a thin layer of AIM field surrounding Accelerator, Kihara stop in that field just before touching him, and yes it would imply that Kihara's reaction is faster than bullets and explosions.

Here's a gif to explain.

nice. I finally find a picture explanation and its in japanese

[Cheese Ninja]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

There's a thin layer of AIM field surrounding Accelerator, Kihara stop in that field just before touching him, and yes it would imply that Kihara's reaction is faster than bullets and explosions.

Here's a gif to explain.

Spoiler for to save space:

That's pretty much how I imagined it.

Okay, if it's established that Kihara's reactions and the final movements of his attack are impossibly fast, I'll just consider him as a superhuman with a very specific combat skill set.

Still, it seems to me like a point-blank explosions should have had a chance to hurt Accelerator too then, if forces just inside his AIM field but not touching him will be reversed to hit him.

I guess the author just wanted to make this point:
Even though Accelerator's ability is powerful enough to shrug off pretty much any man-made weapon or force of nature, a well-enough prepared (relatively) normal non-esper can beat him up. Never mind that what the normal person is doing is physically impossible in real life.

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Cheese Ninja

That's pretty much how I imagined it.

Okay, if it's established that Kihara's reactions and the final movements of his attack are impossibly fast, I'll just consider him as a superhuman with a very specific combat skill set.

Still, it seems to me like a point-blank explosions should have had a chance to hurt Accelerator too then, if forces just inside his AIM field but not touching him will be reversed to hit him.

I guess the author just wanted to make this point:
Even though Accelerator's ability is powerful enough to shrug off pretty much any man-made weapon or force of nature, a well-enough prepared (relatively) normal non-esper can beat him up. Never mind that what the normal person is doing is physically impossible in real life.

i dont think he's dealt with point blank range explosions that he hasn't made

[shmaster]

Just to let you guys know. There is a certain someone later on who tried to mimic Kihara... but failed. This is ONLY possible for Kihara as no one else knows Accelerator's AIM good enough to make it work.

This is more than superhuman reflex, it is super human reflex AND knowing Accelerator's calculation to the last digit to know how much force should be used and when is the exact timing to pull his fist back.

[Miraluka]

Do you mean Sugoitani?

[Himeji]

Great episode
Accelerator actuad goes and gets band-aids for her.
Then he meets Kihara... I was a bit suprised at how easily Kihara did beat up Accelerator - who then used his last power to bring Last Order to safety.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

As I said before, the Hound Dogs have all the tactical acumen and soldiering skill of a blind, retarded, paraplegic 3 year old....A single guy, armed with a shotgun with only a very limited time for his albeit godlike powers and they cannot take him down despite being armed to the teeth and numericallly superior. Spec ops my ass...

Same here. Heck, that three year old might actually beat them
It looked like they're nothing but pathetic cannon fodder.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Himeji

Same here. Heck, that three year old might actually beat them
It looked like they're nothing but pathetic cannon fodder.

In their defence, they understimated Accelerator's limitations and were overconfident calling him a weakling and coward just because their leader knows how to deal with him.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I notice that compared to western (read; American) shows, Animes don't really have alot of focus/experience/knowledge/advice on military or police tactics.

They're pretty straight forward; The blacker you look, the more dangerous you supposedly are.