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View Poll Results: Vote for your favorite Nanoha StrikerS character
Fate T. Harlaown 222 64.53%
Nanoha Takamachi 164 47.67%
Hayate Yagami 91 26.45%
Signum 101 29.36%
Vita 93 27.03%
Reinforce Zwei 76 22.09%
Lutecia Alpino 32 9.30%
Jail Scaglietti 18 5.23%
Erio Mondial 41 11.92%
Caro Ru Lushe 44 12.79%
Teana Lanster 85 24.71%
Subaru Nakajima 87 25.29%
Ginga Nakajima 53 15.41%
Vivio 84 24.42%
Other 46 13.37%
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Old 2009-08-11, 05:31   Link #201
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I was under the impression that Graham intended to freeze Hayate and the Book when they Unisoned after the book was completed. Hence the Lieze twins provoking Hayate.
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Old 2009-08-11, 05:41   Link #202
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Originally Posted by Triple_R View Post
Genuinely nice try, but I disagree. Normal human genetics being passed down through typical procreation never gives someone "unlimited desire". Something that extreme has to be artificially programmed into a person's genes, and greatly undermines their ability to self-restrain themselves.
Regardless of the source of Scarlietti's persona (by the way, while he clearly is an extremist by the standards of the modern, law-abiding First World or Middie denizen, he's not really that extremist by the standards of countless naturally procreated terrorists, and few would suggest much mercy for those), the question still comes down to whether you believe in free will.

Believing in free will means, in principle, that whatever the genetic (even deliberate) or indoctrination you may have received, you are still expected to use your free will to CHOOSE to be a law abiding citizen.

If you believe that it is possible for programming to completely override your free will, then arguably you don't believe in it. The "severity" might be different. For example, one might be programmed only to go so far as being a pickpocket, while another a murderer and the third a full blown terrorists, but they are all controlled by their programming and thus should not be punished - by the time they committed their crime, they had as much choice as a stereotypical machine in their next action.

Of course, the second position is hardly indefensible, but it is a bit arbitrary to just decide certain "levels" of programming should be excused while insisting that another of programming must be overridable by "free will".
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Old 2009-08-11, 07:13   Link #203
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There should really be no argument at all. Canon shows that Scaglietti did have free will--he betrayed his masters, even instructed Due to kill them.

If they had stripped him of his will and completely mentally dominated him, he would have been incapable of betraying them.

So he was perfectly aware of what he was doing. It was of his own volition. There's no wallbanger in sentencing him to prison for the rest of his life.
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Old 2009-08-28, 02:02   Link #204
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for me~

Fate T.Harlaown-awesome n adorable,dunno how to describe-
she has speed n pro in fighting,not to forget
kawaii n hot
Yagami Hayate-has wonderful power n outfit,plus
an adorable leader n sort of hillarious
Erio Mondiel-so young,so little,so cute yet so strong
Ginga Nakajima-one of my favourite onee-san,plus
her device has awesome design
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Old 2010-02-09, 21:22   Link #205
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But with added Hayate to support the shafted.

Would've voted for mein Kaiserin if only she weren't such a moeblob.
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Old 2012-03-30, 20:59   Link #206
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1. Lutecia SHES AWSOME <3 purple shes kewl!!!
2. Caro!!! <3 her pink hair and her dragon!!!
3. Erio because he also kewl! hes cute&hot hahaha like kukai idk why in shugo chara
4. VITA! I <3 her badass haha
5. signum deep voice
6. Vivo because shes cute haha
7. Fate-chan because shes nice and strong
8 . ehh hayate because shes also strong
9. nanoha because well yeah strong
dont really like the other ones
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Old 2012-03-30, 21:38   Link #207
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Fate and Subaru (GaoGaiGar-tan)...and Lutecia and Jail. XP
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