2009-07-10, 00:30 | Link #1121 |
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Indeed, please the fans who hate him by killing Jesus off for good, make him be loved by those whom loved Kira by making him a martyr whom died for peace.
And also another one was the laser guided kill'em all karma gun. I actually thought Luna would have been dead or at least someone Kira loved and cared for.
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2009-07-10, 02:14 | Link #1123 |
its Ghost Madoka time!!!
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man!, if only they should have made kira a cyborg space ninja instead after their mansion was blown up & killing lacus & the kids in the process while he manages to survive despite losing some of his limbs & promise to carry on her will to stop wars as "space robo ninja yamato" in the shadows & with shin as his accidental GAR "student" of course, instead of making him a total idiot
well atleast SRW manages to fix some of that.... also Destiny is not that bad, its just a terrible writing NOT a crap!!, despite the worst rip-offs parts.... who ever the person that says its a CRAP & causing the fandom to turn into chaos, yeah!!, lets Bright-punch that person!!! now what will look like, if only Taniguchi directed "SEED" instead of Fukuda..... hmmm?
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2009-07-10, 11:35 | Link #1125 |
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The whole point to end wars is just plain silly. Until humanity can get rid of our dark nature we wont ever get rid of it. One fights for peace that is cool but will never be eternal peace. Hence y i do think destiny as a whole (the show and the plan) a fail.
We sure can have our periods of peace time.. but its matter of time before somewhere in the world war will start again. |
2009-07-10, 11:43 | Link #1126 | |
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"What if the flowers get ruined again?" "Then we'll just have to put them there again." Why would you have a problem when the show delivers the same theme that you believe?
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2009-07-10, 11:53 | Link #1127 | |
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Meaning let one side win instead of intervening and postponing something that will happen again more than likely in a short period of time. While it may be ruthless but at least your enemies are not in a military position to counterattack you in a very near future. (this will also mean occupation) But lets not go into detail we can argue till eternity over this subject (There will be no right or wrong way and depending on if you have ethics or morals will determine what u think is the best way which consequently mean endless debate of getting no where if someone doesnt agree) |
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2009-07-10, 12:23 | Link #1129 | |
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2009-07-10, 17:05 | Link #1130 | |
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Yes, it's unreasonable. Illogical. Impossible. It's magical. But then, so are space whales and the genetic babble behind coordinators. Like it or hate it, the Destiny Plan works by the creator's own admission. |
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2009-07-10, 19:51 | Link #1131 |
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The fact that Durandal plans to enforce the DP through brute force suggests it isn't exactly like Mars. Mars is a very remote society and sort of needs it to survive.
I don't believe it was offically confirmed that Durandal's plan IS the Mars plan. Rather that it works on Mars and Durandal got the idea from there. But like I said Durandal in ep 48 sure doesn't look like he'll be very forgiving for people that aren't interested in the Plan while Mars apparantly has no problem with that. |
2009-07-10, 20:24 | Link #1132 |
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He, arguably, intended to enact it through force. How it would be maintained was never addressed. Besides, wasn't the mars plan enacted through a war? At least there were many wars before the plan was enforced, which keeps it analogous to Earth.
Either way, it's another classic case of 'do the ends justify the ends?' Lacus and Kira, at least, felt yes, so I'd personally consider the end case of what happens after either Durandle or Lacus and co had succeded. One was peace across a planet which had regularly fallen into genocidal warfare and racism, and the other... didn't solve the problems that caused it to happen. |
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There really hasn't been a peace yet in the Seed-verse. What occurred between the two wars was rebuilding for the next war, and that was as much because both sides were exhausted to the point of collapse in the first war. Each war devestated the planet and destroyed major parts of the human population each time, and nothing in the inter-war time can really recover that. The Seed-verse isn't a pattern of war, peace, and growth, it's been a pattern of decimation, massacre, and exhaustion. |
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It would work perfectly. There would be no more war. But what you have not considered is the fact that war is replaced by a Police-state where people are dragged off in the middle of the night and shot because they dared to secretly do jobs that they weren't assigned to. "The Plan will work" is a meaningless word when happiness is not part of the equation. People will be miserable under the Destiny Plan, but it would "work" because they would be powerless to rebel against it. All the more reason that the Clyne Faction had to destroy it; because Destiny Plan works, it would mean an eternity of humanity's enslavement under a despotic power. They HAVE to succeed or there would be no future for the children.
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Monstert, just two posts above you. When he says "just because it may have worked in Mars doesn't mean it will work everywhere and who's to say that the Mars colony would never have war in the future", which is contradicted by the higher authority.
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2009-07-10, 21:44 | Link #1137 |
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All that was said about Mars was that it had never ever had a war under the DP. No previous history of wars before it since it could haven't been there for more than a few decades (George Glenn was the first person to travel into deeper space wasn't he? and that was only like 50 years before Seed)
Also that interview might not even exist at all since people have only posted a so called "translation" and never the original article. Furthermore that article makes little sense as is because Fukuda claims that there will be no war yet some people will always reject the Plan because they were "Have nots" and fight against it, and thus that means war. Which is a total paradox. Don't listen to Red Zaku on this. He's totally biased against Lacus and Kira(since he's hated both of them and prayed for their death since Seed first came out) and interprets the article in a way to make them look bad. He also for some reason believes Durandal is for some reason not capable of lying and every word of his is total truth. |
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2009-07-10, 22:07 | Link #1139 |
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Is red zaku a member of this forum???? Who is he???
DP seemed promising that war will be reduced.. but yeah whatever Lacus and kira came in and crash the party.. Besides any dramatic change of governemnt usually leads to war before a reformation can take place. History is full of examples. Btw when i read the manga few years back.. i dont recall mars had a state police or secret service to drag u out of the night.. The option to leave is there if your not happy how the government is runned. (my memmory is very rusty) |
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