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marvelB · 2016-02-24, 14:16

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Alrighty, guys! Break's over, and our first spoiler pic is out:

-Chapter title is "Raizou of the Mist". Splash is a color page advertising the upcoming Film Gold.

-As we take a brief glimpse out at sea, we quickly discover that yes, Jack is alive. However, he did not make it through his encounter with the marines unscathed, as he's wearing bandages (however, he doesn't look badly wounded, either). Meanwhile, back at Zou, Kinemon expresses his thanks to the minks....

-It looks like in the middle of the conversation, both the mink leaders get ready to fight again. However, Momonosuke stops them, saying that his real father would be saddened at the sight of them bickering. As the Straw-Hats get confused by his words, the samurai finally come clean: Momonosuke is not Kinemon's son. He is, in fact, son of the great daimyo of a place in Wano called Kuri, Kougetsu Oden! His status as a daimyo's heir means that not just the samurai, but even both Inuarashi and Nekomamushi are subordinates under him....!!!!

-After the shocking reveal, the group sets off to meet the missing Wano ally. We're soon introduced to the ninja, Raizou the Mist! But what's particularly interesting about this encounter is the area where the minks concealed the ninja: Near a poneglyph. Robin notices that this particular glyph, unlike the past ones she encountered, is colored crimson. Inuarashi tells her that it's because this glyph serves "another purpose" different from the rest, and also notes that he's aware of the history of both Ohara and Robin. Afterwards, it looks like the chapter ends with Raizou impressing everyone with a bunch of ninja tricks (like kage bunshin, and such other techniques).

marvelB · 2016-02-25, 01:52

No fully translated summary yet, but in the meantime:

Spoiler for 817:

necrolyte · 2016-02-25, 05:26

^I'm not the one to say such a thing but damn isn't he ugly

marvelB · 2016-02-25, 05:35

From the other pics I've seen of him, Raizou actually reminds me of a cross between Crocus and Gedatsu. Still, it's not like I ever expected Oda to take a leaf from Kishi's book and make his own ninja a generic pretty boy!

Anyways, as far as the truth about Momo goes.... well, I think now it's quite clear as to why people like Dofla and Kaidou wanted him so badly (I imagine they'd have quite a bit to gain if they held a feudal lord's son hostage.....).

danielevo · 2016-02-25, 08:50

Where is Dragon ? I dont see him..

J4n1 · 2016-02-25, 09:00

Well this was an interesting chapter, and i like Raizou's design.
Also loved Law's expression when Raizou started hamming it up, poor guy needs to learn to just chill about all the insanity.

LevelSeven · 2016-02-25, 10:43

haha, so many naruto references, earth release

XD XD XD
but i also liked how oda gave a correct answer to how a ninja should be lol XD XD

and the perverted kid is a lord :O didnt see that coming XD
nami is as awesome as ever

and Law really should travel with the straw hats, he fits perfectly

itachi-san314 · 2016-02-25, 10:54

So the Strawhats read the Naruto manga?

I'm sure Kishimoto loves this chapter.

Trax · 2016-02-25, 11:42

So... Will Jack be heading back to Zou?

~Yami~ · 2016-02-25, 12:25

Raizou... is our god...

All men are obsessed with ninjas

I was really happy to see even Law and Zoro jumped to the hype train

while Nico Robin finally got some time to shine by reading those phoneglyph
She always reveal something interesting after reading it like in Fishman island arc

J4n1 · 2016-02-25, 13:37

Not sure what you mean by Zoro and Law jumping on Hype train.
Both were so laid back the whole chapter they might as well have been asleep.
Apart from last page where Law seems to be, again, questioning the sanity of his allies.

Wandering Soul · 2016-02-25, 14:02

LOL at the strawhats harassing Raizou. Half of this chapter was Naruto references.

itachi-san314 · 2016-02-25, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4n1

Not sure what you mean by Zoro and Law jumping on Hype train.
Both were so laid back the whole chapter they might as well have been asleep.
Apart from last page where Law seems to be, again, questioning the sanity of his allies.

Their faces appear in the bubbles during the hype train so those lines of dialogue are clearly theirs. Law's face at the end wasn't questioning others' sanity, he was shocked that he actually saw the clone jutsu used which he asked to see.

J4n1 · 2016-02-25, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

Their faces appear in the bubbles during the hype train so those lines of dialogue are clearly theirs. Law's face at the end wasn't questioning others' sanity, he was shocked that he actually saw the clone jutsu used which he asked to see.

Found the ones you meant.
Eh, don't look very hyped to me, sure, they asked for a trick, but not really part of hype train imo.

marvelB · 2016-02-25, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4n1

Found the ones you meant.
Eh, don't look very hyped to me, sure, they asked for a trick, but not really part of hype train imo.

The point is that they at least expressed interest, deadpan expressions or not. I mean, notice that the girls didn't even react AT ALL (similar how to they show no reaction to any of Franky's robo shenanigans). It just goes to show that even Zoro and Law embrace the dreams of every man.

Though, speaking of the girls.... I really should have figured that Nami would want to exploit Momo after discovering he's of noble lineage. heh.

J4n1 · 2016-02-25, 15:56

Embrace might be putting it a bit strongly, aknowledge its existence and/or show vague interest maybe.

Or just be interested in someones combat potential (or capacity to withstand pain with Zoro's "get speared" idea).

Oddly, find myself liking the chapter, liking the new character, even while i kinda hate all the ninja hype from Luffy and co.
I kinda hate Naruto (the manga, haven't watched the anime or played games) which may color my opinions of this chapter due to all the shout outs.

Used to read Naruto, it was never my favorite manga, but it had plenty of good stuff in there.
Then Sasuke went of the deep end, and the story became all about him and how awesome he is (he isn't). And from there on the whole thing went going downhill in so many ways that i don't even have the patience to write it all down.

ranchan13 · 2016-02-25, 16:44

Ok, seriously....
Raizou for Strawhat crew?

imza · 2016-02-25, 19:12

Spoiler:

This captures my feelings from this chapter.

ZGoten · 2016-02-25, 19:38

Lol, every new character is a potential Strawhat for people at this point. Good chapter by the way, good comedic value, good reveals, rock solid. Looking forward to the next one!

Jmariofan7 · 2016-02-25, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4n1

Embrace might be putting it a bit strongly, aknowledge its existence and/or show vague interest maybe.

Or just be interested in someones combat potential (or capacity to withstand pain with Zoro's "get speared" idea).

Oddly, find myself liking the chapter, liking the new character, even while i kinda hate all the ninja hype from Luffy and co.
I kinda hate Naruto (the manga, haven't watched the anime or played games) which may color my opinions of this chapter due to all the shout outs.

Used to read Naruto, it was never my favorite manga, but it had plenty of good stuff in there.
Then Sasuke went of the deep end, and the story became all about him and how awesome he is (he isn't). And from there on the whole thing went going downhill in so many ways that i don't even have the patience to write it all down.

Oh boy, another one of those "Naruto sucks solely because of Sasuke" people.

That's kind of a shallow reason to stop reading, you didn't even try to see where the story was going with it, and despite what you and other people might think, it wasn't all about him nor did it make him out to be awesome.

2016-02-24, 14:16	Link #1
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	One Piece - Chapter 817 [manga] Welcome to the weekly manga discussion thread for One Piece. Thread Guidelines One Piece is licensed by Viz, please don't ask for or mention where to find or download the manga. Please do not discuss scanlations, translation groups, etc., etc. Raw requests and offers are not permitted anywhere on this forum. Discuss your expectations of the chapter if it has not been published yet. Posting a synopses or summary is fine (and welcome). Be polite to your fellow forum members. Please try to keep the discussion on topic. Spoilers will not be policed in this thread, so if you haven't read the chapter yet, just stay out if you don't want to read spoilers. Remember that the manga is licensed, do not post significant parts of the chapter. This includes images, scripts and direct translations of the manga. Summaries are OK, crops of pictures are OK (only if you need to illustrate your point) but this is it. Alrighty, guys! Break's over, and our first spoiler pic is out: -Chapter title is "Raizou of the Mist". Splash is a color page advertising the upcoming Film Gold. -As we take a brief glimpse out at sea, we quickly discover that yes, Jack is alive. However, he did not make it through his encounter with the marines unscathed, as he's wearing bandages (however, he doesn't look badly wounded, either). Meanwhile, back at Zou, Kinemon expresses his thanks to the minks.... -It looks like in the middle of the conversation, both the mink leaders get ready to fight again. However, Momonosuke stops them, saying that his real father would be saddened at the sight of them bickering. As the Straw-Hats get confused by his words, the samurai finally come clean: Momonosuke is not Kinemon's son. He is, in fact, son of the great daimyo of a place in Wano called Kuri, Kougetsu Oden! His status as a daimyo's heir means that not just the samurai, but even both Inuarashi and Nekomamushi are subordinates under him....!!!! -After the shocking reveal, the group sets off to meet the missing Wano ally. We're soon introduced to the ninja, Raizou the Mist! But what's particularly interesting about this encounter is the area where the minks concealed the ninja: *Near a poneglyph.* Robin notices that this particular glyph, unlike the past ones she encountered, is colored crimson. Inuarashi tells her that it's because this glyph serves "another purpose" different from the rest, and also notes that he's aware of the history of both Ohara and Robin. Afterwards, it looks like the chapter ends with Raizou impressing everyone with a bunch of ninja tricks (like kage bunshin, and such other techniques). Last edited by marvelB; 2016-02-25 at 15:10.

2016-02-25, 01:52	Link #2
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	No fully translated summary yet, but in the meantime: Spoiler for 817: ^Say hello to Raizou the Mist!

2016-02-25, 14:02	Link #12
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	LOL at the strawhats harassing Raizou. Half of this chapter was Naruto references. __________________

2016-02-25, 16:44	Link #17
ranchan13 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Ok, seriously.... Raizou for Strawhat crew? __________________ Combat ELEment STrategic Integrated Artificial Lifeform

2016-02-25, 19:38	Link #19
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	Lol, every new character is a potential Strawhat for people at this point. Good chapter by the way, good comedic value, good reveals, rock solid. Looking forward to the next one! __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

2016-02-25, 05:26	Link #3
necrolyte Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Age: 32	^I'm not the one to say such a thing but damn isn't he ugly

2016-02-25, 05:35	Link #4
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	From the other pics I've seen of him, Raizou actually reminds me of a cross between Crocus and Gedatsu. Still, it's not like I ever expected Oda to take a leaf from Kishi's book and make his own ninja a generic pretty boy! Anyways, as far as the truth about Momo goes.... well, I think now it's quite clear as to why people like Dofla and Kaidou wanted him so badly (I imagine they'd have quite a bit to gain if they held a feudal lord's son hostage.....).

2016-02-25, 08:50	Link #5
danielevo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012	Where is Dragon ? I dont see him..

2016-02-25, 09:00	Link #6
J4n1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013	Well this was an interesting chapter, and i like Raizou's design. Also loved Law's expression when Raizou started hamming it up, poor guy needs to learn to just chill about all the insanity.

2016-02-25, 10:43	Link #7
LevelSeven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Germany	haha, so many naruto references, earth release XD XD XD but i also liked how oda gave a correct answer to how a ninja should be lol XD XD and the perverted kid is a lord :O didnt see that coming XD nami is as awesome as ever and Law really should travel with the straw hats, he fits perfectly

2016-02-25, 10:54	Link #8
itachi-san314 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	So the Strawhats read the Naruto manga? I'm sure Kishimoto loves this chapter.

2016-02-25, 11:42	Link #9
Trax Rock beats scissors Join Date: Jul 2004	So... Will Jack be heading back to Zou?

2016-02-25, 12:25	Link #10
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Raizou... is our god... All men are obsessed with ninjas I was really happy to see even Law and Zoro jumped to the hype train while Nico Robin finally got some time to shine by reading those phoneglyph She always reveal something interesting after reading it like in Fishman island arc

2016-02-25, 13:37	Link #11
J4n1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013	Not sure what you mean by Zoro and Law jumping on Hype train. Both were so laid back the whole chapter they might as well have been asleep. Apart from last page where Law seems to be, again, questioning the sanity of his allies.

2016-02-25, 15:56	Link #16
J4n1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013	Embrace might be putting it a bit strongly, aknowledge its existence and/or show vague interest maybe. Or just be interested in someones combat potential (or capacity to withstand pain with Zoro's "get speared" idea). Oddly, find myself liking the chapter, liking the new character, even while i kinda hate all the ninja hype from Luffy and co. I kinda hate Naruto (the manga, haven't watched the anime or played games) which may color my opinions of this chapter due to all the shout outs. Used to read Naruto, it was never my favorite manga, but it had plenty of good stuff in there. Then Sasuke went of the deep end, and the story became all about him and how awesome he is (he isn't). And from there on the whole thing went going downhill in so many ways that i don't even have the patience to write it all down.

2016-02-25, 19:12	Link #18
imza Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013	Spoiler: This captures my feelings from this chapter.