2011-07-28, 12:15 | Link #41 | |
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Itachi: Why hasn't sasuke gone back to the village?
Naruto: Well its because you filled him with hatred and revenge Itachi: ... well I only did that so he would get strong... Naruto: well just look at me and yourself, we got tremendous power also and we never had to embrace hatred Itachi: ... Naruto: did you know your plan nearly drove sasuke to kill me, his best friend, to get the MS? I don't think he'd be very welcome in the village if he went through with it... Itachi: ... Naruto: y'know you probably should have realized your little plan was falling apart when Sasuke Joined up with Orochimaru to grab more power Ya... Itachi only managed to remind me how stupid I think his entire plan for sasuke was. Though i'm still hoping that he will get to meet up with sasuke, bitch slap him and tell him to stop being such a twat... heh thinking about it, is Kabuto really wanted to mess with Madara's plans he could try sending Itachi to have a little chat with Sasuke Quote:
however, the downside to all this is that if we are seeing what the raven does NOW, that means that when we get to the battle with sasuke the raven will fail to do what its supposed to do.
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2011-07-28, 14:00 | Link #43 |
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I think the raven will only be against genjutsu .. Naruto srsly has 0 defence against that .. in fact, nearly everyone in the series can possibly be raped by Tsukuyomi - excluding powerful Uchihas with advanced sharingans and jinchuriki who cooperate with their bijuu
I wonder if Rinnegan protects against Tsukuyomi
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2011-07-28, 14:27 | Link #44 | |
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2011-07-28, 14:43 | Link #45 |
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So what are the likely outcomes here?
#1 - Itachi and Nagato capture Naruto and Bee. #2 - Itachi and Nagato capture Bee #3 - Naruto and Bee defeat Itachi and Nagato, more words are said, and they go puff. #4 - Nagato and Itachi break free(how is this even possible since they are dead?) and join Naruto and Bee to fight against Madara and Kabuto. I don't know. 2 and 3 seem the most plausible. Kirabi has to exit stage left at some point. At the same time I can't see how Itachi and Nagato beat even one of them in this state. Not when they are warning them. It just doesn't feel like Naruto and Bee are even in danger until Madara shows up. With the crow coming up, this fight seems more a set up of Sasuke vs. Naruto then it does about the war. Sadly Itachi and Nagato are merely plot devices. Speaking of which, I am glad Kishi didn't show any of the Gaara battle. If he did, it would mean he would only rush through it. Makes me think it will be more epic with multiple characters arriving. .
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2011-07-28, 15:15 | Link #46 |
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I wonder if Kabuto really wants to capture the two. Even if he underestimated Naruto's growth that's a hard feat to pull without that... Ultimately he wants to backstab Madara and get his hands on Sasuske...so maybe he has something totally different planned than capturing them? Cause if he captures them Madara might take them from him and that's it. For him, as long as they roam free, Madara is effectively stalled. This might be a trap for Madara rather, with Kabuto anticipating he will greedily butt into this battle in order to secure the Jinchuriki for himself, at which point Kabuto might let the dynamic duo switch sides so its Madara-six path vs the four of them - maybe Kabuto hopes to wear down all other heavy hitters to increase his chances?
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2011-07-28, 15:48 | Link #47 | |
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His words indicates that he really wants them as weapons against Madara/Sasuke. How about if he thinks that Madara can accept a trade: Sasuke X Naruto/Bee?. After all Madara's First objective is to capture them for his jutsu.
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2011-07-28, 15:49 | Link #48 |
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or he totally lost it and plans to kill and edo tensei them
the thing about trading is - if moons eye is done it wont help kabuto he gets sasuske, he'll be subjugated like the rest ... so he cant rly do that can he? he has to force his hand and take a risky stab at Madara sooner or later oh and considering naruto now can use sage art seals on the kyubi ... I wouldn't be too surprised if he actually can - though it would feel lame
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2011-07-28, 15:56 | Link #49 |
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Kabuto has always overlooked Naruto so imo it would be most fitting for him to be utterly defeated by Naruto without ever getting the chance to fight Sasuke. I'm guessing that Orochimaru's cells might start taking over if Kabuto is severely weakened.
My crack theory and biggest hope for the next few chapters is that Itachi will summon his Susanoo and Kabuto will make him unseal the real Orochimaru. Oro deserved some better closure than to be sealed without a word. |
2011-07-28, 15:57 | Link #50 |
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Knowing Kabuto, i think that he don't want to kill Naruto, he want his body to achieve orochimaru's goal to learn every jutsu. Let's say he accomplish that and obtain Sasuke's body and eyes... Madara's jutsu would affecting him?.
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2011-07-28, 16:49 | Link #52 |
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Nice chapter, it was cool to see Itachi again. He's a real smart guy, so I'm a bit confused about how he really thought that giving hatred to sasuke would make him a good guy and want to protect the village. I think regardless of whether mardara telling Sasuke the truth or not, Sasuke would still have turned out the way he did. I'm really looking forward to what that crow is, I doubt it's another power-up(unless genjutsu) so it 'll be interesting to find out.
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2011-07-28, 17:00 | Link #53 | |
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2011-07-28, 17:08 | Link #54 | |
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2011-07-28, 17:18 | Link #55 | |
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It's equally possible, and probably more likely, that he would not have though. Like [whoever it was; I can't remember who said it] said, he was a completely blank slate at this point. Without his goal of killing Itachi looming over him, he could have gone anywhere. |
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2011-07-28, 18:07 | Link #58 | |
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Given there are no sealers nearby, this seems to be the only way to defeat Itachi and Nagato. This is Naruto we are talking about. The master of talk-no-jutsu.
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2011-07-28, 22:25 | Link #59 |
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I admit I probably would have like this chapter if not for character N. Kishi has really made me dislike his character that it surprises me how much it affects my enjoyment of the series.
Anyhoo, it was nice to see Itachi and Nagato despite the former already showing signs of n-itism. This "upgraded" Edo Tensei of Kabuto really sucks, or at least the way he's using it. His whole plan of disturbing the army by keeping the dead shinobis personalities intact hasn't helped. Like at all. In fact it seems to have been pretty detrimental since they seem to be getting talked-no-jutsu back to the afterlife. Wiping out their personalities would negate that and he'd still have powerhouses. Oro got it right, wiping out their original selves with blank killing machines. |
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