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Old 2014-12-15, 02:32   Link #6081
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If you don't have an akashi yet, best saddle up and sail through 2-5 a few more times.
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Old 2014-12-15, 23:17   Link #6082
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I'm actually doing medal runs. Dear god it's difficult with neither using buckets nor extra docks. Even if I did have all 4 slots open I think I would have appreciated a 5th and 6th just in case I have to repair the whole fleet at once >.>

So no one has figured out LoS requirement for 2-5 yet? I am deeply perplexed as I can't get to boss node at all. Then again I've only done 3 runs thus far due to the massive repair time for fast BBs. I've been running 2CV and 4 fast BB.
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Old 2014-12-15, 23:29   Link #6083
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Was trying to do the medal runs earlier, and the Ta-BB simply do the "You shall not pass" on me...

30 runs through there, 30 times she hit one of my kanmusu to red. Seriously seriously pissed me off
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Old 2014-12-16, 00:26   Link #6084
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So no one has figured out LoS requirement for 2-5 yet? I am deeply perplexed as I can't get to boss node at all. Then again I've only done 3 runs thus far due to the massive repair time for fast BBs. I've been running 2CV and 4 fast BB.
Depends on where you guttered. If it's after the 1st node then that's RNG (25% of getting there with 4 BBs). If it's before the boss node, add more seaplanes instead of radars on your ships. The LOS calculation there is 2*(Recon Plane LoS) + Radar LoS + √(all other LoS) ≥ 76
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Old 2014-12-16, 00:51   Link #6085
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Was trying to do the medal runs earlier, and the Ta-BB simply do the "You shall not pass" on me...

30 runs through there, 30 times she hit one of my kanmusu to red. Seriously seriously pissed me off
3-5? I thought you used to take the south route? North route is like kissing goodbye to your resource unless you have an obsession to bully Hoppou
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Old 2014-12-16, 00:51   Link #6086
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Thanks. I'll try transferring over some Zuiuns. I kind of scrapped all the recon planes. Though I haven't played in months and can't remember if Zuiuns are the advanced seaplanes.
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Old 2014-12-16, 01:51   Link #6087
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Speaking of 3-5, this is the first time I ever bothered doing last kill south.
I usually do 3 kills south last kill north but I got bad luck at north this month (keeps meeting BWS).
Passed the pre-boss nodes with only scratches but only to get karma'ed at boss node with a miss fest

Got an A with only Ta remaining


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Old 2014-12-16, 09:29   Link #6088
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3-5? I thought you used to take the south route? North route is like kissing goodbye to your resource unless you have an obsession to bully Hoppou
It's 2-5....

Yes it's ridiculous, it took me like 6 runs to clear 2-5 last month, and now i still stuck with it after 30 runs or so. 28 of that was hit red at the Ta-node. Only got through her twice and both time hit the boss
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Old 2014-12-16, 11:06   Link #6089
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It's 2-5....

Yes it's ridiculous, it took me like 6 runs to clear 2-5 last month, and now i still stuck with it after 30 runs or so. 28 of that was hit red at the Ta-node. Only got through her twice and both time hit the boss
2-5? Er... there isn't any Ta node until the boss..?
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Old 2014-12-16, 11:32   Link #6090
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2-5? Er... there isn't any Ta node until the boss..?
Ah, i means the gold Ru-BB in 2nd node.

Because the Ta-boss was in the cover so it just tricked my brain


Edit: and now 4 times in a row heading to dead end node.... what did i do RNG-sama?
Edit2: that fcking BB is cursed. It's cursed. How can she hit my lvl 96 full hp Myouko to red even when she was at moderate damaged.... This is not fair....
Edit 3: the fker did that again..
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:01   Link #6091
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Why not try north route for a change if the usual comfort zone is cursing you?
Like what I did with 3-5
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:03   Link #6092
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Why not try north route for a change if the usual comfort zone is cursing you?
Like what I did with 3-5
I am trying to do the monthly CA quest, but my only CAV left is Mikuma, and i think you need 2 CAV to head north =/
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:10   Link #6093
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Yes, needs 2 CAVs (1 drum each) to head north.
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:14   Link #6094
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Just grind Mogami to lvl10 and put her in the flagship position. That should do the trick, assuming she is at least modernized to max.
That's pretty much what I did for Kako and Aoba.

Still another example why you really want at least 3-4 lvl70+ ships of every type possible to avoid such situation.
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:20   Link #6095
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Just grind Mogami to lvl10 and put her in the flagship position. That should do the trick, assuming she is at least modernized to max.
That's pretty much what I did for Kako and Aoba.

Still another example why you really want at least 3-4 lvl70+ ships of every type possible to avoid such situation.
Actually it was because of my playing style, trying to level girls to lvl 96, then stop using them unless for the event

For example CAV i had:
  • Tone lvl 97
  • Suzuya lvl 96
  • Mogami lvl 96
  • Kumano lvl 96
  • Chikuma lvl 96

First world problem, i know. But true. I really should use one of them and get this quest over with
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:22   Link #6096
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Mmm... I think I overdid the LOS thing. I put like 2 seaplanes on each of the Kongou sisters. Got me to the boss node of 2-5, but I didn't have enough firepower to take her down. All her escorts were sunk but she lived with barely a scratch. My own fleet barely survived the encounter. Except Zuikaku, she was the flagship, and the lucky carrier after all
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:29   Link #6097
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First world problem, i know. But true. I really should use one of them and get this quest over with
No offense, but stop complaining about the game if you are hindering yourself then...
I would understand frustration about RNG screwing every possible attempts (like people full kirakira for 5-5 sortie + testing several composition), but if you are deliberately making the game more difficult than it actually is, you are reaping what you sow.

Just so you can try: 2-5 is absolutely easy mode if you take 6 CA/V or 5CA/V + 1 CLT (assuming you took 2 drums with you). As long as you bring decent ships in the lot, even "non optimized" CA like the Furutaka and Mogami class can do the trick.
It almost sound like the boss node is nerfed if you go through the north path.
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Mmm... I think I overdid the LOS thing. I put like 2 seaplanes on each of the Kongou sisters. Got me to the boss node of 2-5, but I didn't have enough firepower to take her down. All her escorts were sunk but she lived with barely a scratch. My own fleet barely survived the encounter. Except Zuikaku, she was the flagship, and the lucky carrier after all
Do you have the night battle plane? Also what is actually your setup?
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:36   Link #6098
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Err... there's a night battle plane? I've only ever played casually so never got into the really technical parts of the game till necessary like with LOS and branching rules.

I basically have Zuikaku(torpedo, fighter, bomber, bomber) and Shoukaku(torpedo, fighter, bomber, torpedo), then the kongou sisters with identical equipment of 41cm main gun, 15.5 triple sub-cannon, then 2 basic seaplanes, the ones that come in default with most CLs dropped off the map.

Considering dropping the plane numbers to 1 each. But all things considered that's going to take awhile since everyone is red and I only have 2 baths open
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:42   Link #6099
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Err... there's a night battle plane? I've only ever played casually so never got into the really technical parts of the game till necessary like with LOS and branching rules.

I basically have Zuikaku(torpedo, fighter, bomber, bomber) and Shoukaku(torpedo, fighter, bomber, torpedo), then the kongou sisters with identical equipment of 41cm main gun, 15.5 triple sub-cannon, then 2 basic seaplanes, the ones that come in default with most CLs dropped off the map.

Considering dropping the plane numbers to 1 each. But all things considered that's going to take awhile since everyone is red and I only have 2 baths open
You get a night battle plane by grinding Sendai to her second remodel (lvl60). It is quite useful and you should always bring it if you need night battle to finish a boss node.
It will increase the critical rate of your whole fleet if it is activated. as usual, the activation is RNG based, but if it kicks in, you have much higher chances to mop the floor with the remaining enemy forces.

I'm not sure if it is really a good idea to rely on all 4 kongou sisters, because as you stated, you might get a unlucky streak and have all of them doing paltry damage during day battle, so leading to possible scratch damage at night.

As stated above, you can clear the map easily with a full medium ship fleet with the north path (as long as you don't bring any large ships or carriers, and you have 2 drums).
Otherwise, south path would be "better" with 1 FBB, 1BB, 1CVL, 3 CA.
As an alternative, you can also go south route with a medium size ship fleets such as 2 CVL, 2 CA, 2 DD.
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Old 2014-12-16, 12:42   Link #6100
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Swap the secondary gun for another main gun (41cm. 35.6cm if you don't have it).

The night battle plane is this
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Type_..._(Night_Scout)

High ship LOS increases its trigger chance.
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