2009-03-24, 20:14 | Link #14181 | |
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The Yukiverse Ryoko was designed by Yuki to stop Kyon (and anyone else, whoever they might be) from destroying her "perfect world", I thought. Kimidori (and all other interfaces) was also overwritten and Kuyoh didn't even exist yet. |
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2009-03-24, 20:16 | Link #14182 |
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First place I've seen "bromance" used.
This is sort of debate is why I brought it up...that and similar problems will need addressing of one is to genderbend volume 4....or the Valentine's Day parts of Volume 7...or Haruhi-chan episodes. (chocolate Mitsuuru?)
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2009-03-24, 20:23 | Link #14184 | |
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If we ever do genderbend Haruhi-chan, that stays in.
Haruki: "Everyone will want to lick it!" Mitsuuru: "But--" Haruki: "EVERYONE." Quote:
Yeah, that sets off definite yuri flags, right there. And, of course, NO EXCEPTIONS. |
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2009-03-24, 20:32 | Link #14185 |
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But can she rewrite the IDE? Imagine Ryoko as a firewall against possible intrusions from her former boss. Then, due to jealousy, she oversteps her bounds by interpreting her duty to include Kyon; who actually has authority to stop the program. Kinda like your windows firewall fucking up your net games.
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2009-03-24, 20:36 | Link #14186 | |
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That entire thing with "gathering all the parts" was her failsafe if Kyon didn't like the "perfect" universe she'd given him. I don't know whether she forgot about Ryoko or changed her mind after giving Kyon that escape route. |
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2009-03-24, 20:44 | Link #14187 |
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Yuki is not perfect. She "forgot" to regenerate her glasses is one example. Human emotions seem to cause instabilities over long periods of time (Endless Eight) that can result in the shift of Univeral Constants (Book 4). Her forgetting about Ryoko might not have been a forget, but an alternate defense system. Past Yuki and even farther future Yuki might not have known about that system due to their sync problem. It also depends on just when Yuki wrote Kyon the escape note...since I don't recall that being clear.
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2009-03-24, 20:48 | Link #14188 | |
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2009-03-24, 20:50 | Link #14189 | |
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Of course, that's trying to trick your future self, but yeah, that works. Good idea. |
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2009-03-24, 20:51 | Link #14190 |
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Aside from Ryoko trying to kill him when he was taken to reverse the changes, the entire thing happened as a direct result of Kyon telling her it happened. Due to Future Mikuru's presence, Yuki knew that he would succeed in reverting things, and thus never really considered the possibility that Ryoko would try to kill him.
But then this results in the problem that the majority of the book never should have happened, and this is when I start getting a headache.
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2009-03-24, 21:00 | Link #14191 | |
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Just because Yuki knows the future does not mean she's capable of changing it. She knew all along she was going to lose it and try to change the world for her own benefit. What's scarier? Going crazy or knowing exactly when you're going to go crazy and being unable to do anything about it? It's the sort of thing that would drive a person crazy. "I hate time travel", huh? Even closed loops can get pretty friggin' confusing. |
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2009-03-24, 21:37 | Link #14193 | |
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And Disappearance's confusing ending is why the prologue of Intrigues was made, heh. Also, never read Bob and George? |
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2009-03-24, 22:41 | Link #14195 | |
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My main objection is how unnatural it seems. Yeah, I know that's ironic, coming from me. |
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Haruhi is also very defensive of the people she's now come to know as her friends. She'd be perfectly willing to do something unpleasant to the IDE.
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Lot of people seem to forget that Haruhi is GOD. Quote:
Ah, that makes sense. |
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2009-03-24, 23:23 | Link #14198 | |
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Yuki, in Vol. 4, sure she could destroy the IDE, since she knows what exactly she's deleting. But the idea is that she created Ryoko as her enforcer, because there could be remnants of the IDE, time travellers or whatever supernatural that would distrupt her plans. The time travellers at least exist by necessity, since Mikuru has to be there; Mikuru was probably brainwashed and the future simply cut off with a Time Quake. |
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2009-03-24, 23:31 | Link #14199 | |||
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And Ryoko was perfectly placed to stop Kyon, since she sits behind him. The IDE was dead in that universe. Quote:
No, Yuki rewrote the universe. That is what the Harupowers DO. |
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2009-03-24, 23:50 | Link #14200 | |
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