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2010-09-10, 23:19 | Link #5302 |
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My two cents on Aruka and her involvement with Simeon and the Resistance: First off, I only have what I saw in the anime to go on (but I'm pretty sure that stuff was accurate before they kind the Saten reveal), but when we're first shown Aruka and Cruz in the Resistance, she was already after the data chip for Simeon. Unfortunately, we don't know how long she'd actually been in the Resistance nor how long she's been working for Simeon. As for telling Cruz... well, I see it as a case of "need to know". She has perhaps the most powerful fire fragment, whereas Cruz (at the time) had nothing. Why bother telling a weakling like him, who would probably end up dead, anything like that in the first place? Not only that, but he was too close to the leader for her to reveal anything without the high probability of him blurting it out. Then on top of it all, as I mentioned before, we don't know how long they'd been with the Resistance... but they were obviously with it long enough to call Simeon evil. I suspect that Aruka's thinking was "okay. he's a weakling who'll end up dead soon, so I'll be nice and offer him a futile safe haven until we go to wipe them all out"
As for the lawlessness of BlackSpot... well, even if it's lawless, people still have their morals. And Simeon capturing people for experiments/Acrlight's fuel source... would probably go against any person's morals (minus those involved with Simeon, of course)
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After thinking about it some more I've come up with two reasons which would make sense to me as to why she didn't tell Yamada. First, even though she didn't have contact yet with the resistance, Yamada might have had. So when she joined Simeon she wouldn't tell Yamada because obviously she couldn't be absolutely sure where his loyalties would lie. The second reason, because she always had to take care of Yamada his presence became suffocating and she wanted to have something completely of her own. A place where she would never be bothered by him. A place where she could be "someone else" and completely forget about her little brother. I can't wait to see Aruka and Yamada come face to face again. And about the whole evil/good thing. Just like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder. My eye says Aruka is EEEEVIIILLLLLLL!!! Which of course doesn't mean I don't like her |
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2010-09-11, 13:29 | Link #5304 |
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If you are talking about the Raw version of Chapter 83, "could you pass me the link to Chapter 83 in a private message please?, Is that after viewing Chapter 82 (which now must wait to be translated into English), I see what happens in 83 .
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2010-09-11, 13:47 | Link #5305 | |
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2010-09-11, 14:37 | Link #5307 | |
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------------- Edit : Found it. It's the second part of ep16, just after Aruka's mask has been broken. Cruz : There's no way vice commander Nee-chan would betray everyone. Aruka : Betray? That's incorrect. I've been with Simeon since before I joined the resistance. I only joined the resistance because I had been given a mission from Arclight-Sama. Can you confirm it's the same in the manga js06? Last edited by Ynot; 2010-09-11 at 16:42. |
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2010-09-11, 18:07 | Link #5310 |
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^ I didn't expect to see these kind of differences between the manga and anime before the split in stories. I know it has been asked before but I can't remember whether it was answered. Are there plans to start translating the skipped chapters when Pewpew catches up with the current raws?
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2010-09-11, 18:40 | Link #5311 |
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Well you dont need to know when she became a member of Simeon, shes 1 of the elite 4 and then she also had the mission to retrieve the data chip. So she had those a long time before that. Ofc if shes a spy or just a traitor shes a traitor either way. Spys are never treated as real inteligence agents.
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2010-09-12, 00:07 | Link #5312 |
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I always thought Aruka was an accomplished assassin within the ranks of Simeon. In fact, her identity as one of the four Generals was such a well kept secret that even Disk did not know who she was. I guess you'd have to find out her back story from Arclight, Riru, or (Cruz should ask) Saten.
Wonder if she'll ever wear a mask again. She wore a mask during the assault on Kana Village (but also had major cleavage in that bondage-suit/armor, so I don't know how much a mask would help) but didn't toward the end. I also love her expression when she sees Cruz. That's gotta be one of my most favorite pages in the manga.
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2010-09-12, 07:08 | Link #5313 | |
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But I doubt Saten tell the truth even if Cruz asked about this. looking back I wonder why Saten is so interested in Cruz?I doubt it is only for his great intelligence, maybe if we're lucky something will come out in this arc..maybe next 1 or 2 chapter or at least I hope. |
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2010-09-12, 11:50 | Link #5314 | |
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Kurumi also wore a mask, wonder if she worked as a spy too.
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Perhaps Saten just loves young girls and has the same kind of angel&devil on his shoulder as Blade Spoiler for needless:
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2010-09-12, 13:00 | Link #5315 | |
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Anyway, if we allow for the possibility that Arca was a member of the Resistance before joining Simeon, everything becomes much simpler. Well, a little bit simpler. At least the situation with Cruz wouldn't need such a complicated explanation. Here's the scenario: Arca's ability hasn't fully developed yet. While she's on some mission for the Resistance she runs into a strong opponent (someone like Hatfield for example). She tries to fight and is defeated, but the enemy recognises her potential, so she gets taken to Arclight, who offers to awaken her powers if she switches sides. She agrees, he does that tentacle thing on her. (Assuming that's what that does, of course. That's another "translation required"...) And maybe, just possibly, she's partly motivated by a desire to protect Cruz, having realised that the Resistance can't hope to stand up to Simeon.
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2010-09-12, 13:26 | Link #5316 | |
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therefore I doubt this scenario is possible,seriously cruz a more siblings like relationship with Eve now that Aruka(his real big sister ).Rather ironic if you ask me Last edited by Soji; 2010-09-12 at 13:46. |
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2010-09-12, 13:55 | Link #5317 |
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I managed to read Needless until chapter 81 at last...Please tell me, the arc of Blade's past had already finished, right ? I heard that this manga will only have 100 chapters, so I think there's a lot of things to catch up ;(
Gido's theory about 2 beings combine into a human seems...explained what will happen to blade and eve in the future ? I noticed that you guys are talking about it in few pages back, and it's actually one of the reasons why I started to read needless from chapter 50 - 81 With the rate of the translation speed right now, I guess it won't take long before they catch up to the current chapter ;(
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2010-09-12, 14:05 | Link #5318 |
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Whut? Who told you that? The manga is still running and far, VERY FAR from its end. At the very least chapter 100 could be part 1 end, but then it comes part 2, wich will have another 100 chapters, probably. Either way, with the 12 stigmata needless issue and the many loose ends, Needless will be running for at least another 10 years
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2010-09-12, 14:15 | Link #5319 | |||
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Also was browsing around pixiv and found a pretty good (read: funny) drawing of Aruka, so I thought I'd pass that on since she's the hot topic right now. Spoiler:
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I'll only consider the manga will be heading toward an ending (of Part I) after we see Riru fight :X
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2010-09-12, 14:17 | Link #5320 |
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I mean in Needless 1 (or at least that's what I think I've read(?) I think I've read it somewhere in here that Needless 1 will only have 100 chapters ? ;( )
I heard that there are already Needless 1.5 and the upcoming Needless 2... As for 1.5, from what I've seen with that female blade(?), I'm just wondering whether the remaining chapters for Needless 1 will be enough to explain all of that (and then there's a matter concerning Cruz and Arclight too @_@ )
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