2011-01-11, 20:21 | Link #2981 | |
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The concept for the birth of Tomogara is like what shiroi mahotsukai explains. Two Tomogara seperate their existence and fuse them into a newborn that is fully adult both mentally and physically. The question "are there any Tomogara that had been born/created on Earth?" is still unanswered in the story.
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2011-01-11, 20:23 | Link #2982 |
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Volume X is a prequel volume that focuses on the Crimson Denizen-Flame Haze conflicts in the Middle Ages.
Volume 0 is a also prequel volume, but it focuses on where Shana has ended up after she parted ways with Wilhelmina in Hongkong (Shakugan no Shana Episode 15). Volumes S and SII are sidestory volumes. Shana trying to cook for Wilhelmina in Shakugan no Shana S Episode 02 is part of the stories in S. There are also lots of sidestories in the Shana universe, and one of them involves the "love affair" between Mare and Sabrac.
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2011-01-11, 20:58 | Link #2985 | |
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If your talking about noticing the Reiji Maigo being transferred while he was still be sucked out of his PoE, then it can just still remain inside him when he is a torch and if he was fueled out, the Reiji Maigo would eventually fuel him up when time passes and he can remain undetected.
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2011-01-12, 05:16 | Link #2987 |
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I made hypothesis from memory of episode 1; that Yuji saw the activation of Fuzetsu from the beginning (Unrestricted formulae running through the ground) so it only means he had had Reiji Maigo before that event since it is Reiji Maigo that gives him ability to interfere the effect of Fuzetsu. And before Shana came to Misaki city, Friagne is shown staying here for a while (I assume this from the Movie) so it is highly possible...even surely that he is responsible for Yuji becoming Torch.
Also, atwiki confirmed about Yuji being eaten before that two Rinne caught him. I think Treasure Tools don't have to be transferred to Torches once they got devoured immediately. It is possible they move themselves to someone already become Torch at that time not only when they just got devoured. So Reiji Maigo may be transferred into Yuji after "the feast" that killed him ended, hours or days later. |
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2011-01-12, 08:51 | Link #2989 |
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Mmm nice theory but I think that there is something missing in there, we don't know exactly when Sakai got eaten, because the Reiji Maigo increased his flame every day so it never got lower. But which makes me doubt is that when Yuuji finally gets in the fuzetsu, the entire city was covered with torchs, if you look at the Haridan of that moment you see that there isn't two blocks without a torch. It's kinda weird that Yuuji didn't got on any fuzetsu previously, maybe just coincidence..
I spect to see a secret reason behind how he dyed and got the treasure, who knows :P
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2011-01-12, 21:44 | Link #2990 |
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If memory serves me right, if a mystes such as Yuji was killed, it would transfer to another torch. So what if it is just coincidence that the previous owner of the reiji maigo was killed and Yuji just happened to be the next torch that the reiji maigo went to. That would explain why Pheles has to actually search for it. Otherwise why can't Pheles just get to the reiji maigo after healing from the battle with Sabrac? At least that's what I think.
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2011-01-12, 22:37 | Link #2991 |
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It is said that Yuji is the second owner of Reiji Maigo; there aren't any other Mystes (excluding Johann himself) before him. At the moment Johann was sealed and sent away by Pheles was almost the same time as when Yuji was turned into torch. So he become the next owner after Johann. Purely a coincidence it moves into Yuji's body instead of other torches all over the world.
The Taimei Shihen Sabrac cast into Reiji Maigo is the cause of the random transfer that even Pheles couldn't find it easily (explained in the novel). It takes her 5 months until her searching spell (the Kaze no Tenrin, which transfer itself from people to people by touching) detects and leads her to the subject. |
2011-01-12, 23:30 | Link #2992 |
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It's just me or this is this is a BIG coincidence? I mean, to be the Flame Haze of a God of Guze you must have a big capacity for existence, now Shana is a weird case and got contracted by Alastor, she met Sakai which in fact is another weird case that got contracted by SnH, another God of Guze and passed from a love relationship (even if they didn't reconoze it, they were in love) to a enemy relationship... I think that is too much coincidence for being just casualty..I don't know if you get my point.
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2011-01-13, 00:31 | Link #2993 |
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The theories about Yuji being consumed and how he ended up holding the Reiji Maigo are interesting but still didn't answer the question of who is the Flame Haze that creates Yuuji Saki's Torch in first place, as Shana showed to us on the first chapter, torches didn't appear automatically ...a flame Haze must be there to summon it(or probably Tomogarcan do as well?), so it's probably that another Flame Haze visited Misaki City before Shana ...or probably that Tomogara old man(i think his name is Lami or something similar) is the one who creates Yuuji's torch?
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2011-01-13, 03:37 | Link #2994 |
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If they were in an enemy relationship, why is Yuji fighting to create a new world for Shana and if they are in an enemy relationship, why didn't Yuji kill Shana when he had the chance? I still believe that they love each other and are fighting for each other. Just using different measures. That's what I think.
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2011-01-13, 04:40 | Link #2995 | |
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Actually that's a really good question, we're informed that Seirei no Hebi is the god of creation thus being able to create a new world by destroying the old, but i don't know if he's able to resurrect people(or in this case Flame Hazes) if that were true then Yuuji can avoid a lot of trouble by simply killing Shana and resurrecting her once the new world is completed xDU.
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2011-01-13, 06:37 | Link #2996 |
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Wait, can people be resurrected by SoF? I thought it was only worlds that could be created...And also, does SoF/ SnH whatever you want to call him, control Yuji's body? If so, why didn't Yuji make a Jinki out of him instead of having him control his body? The writer makes Yuji seem VERY Idiotic.
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2011-01-13, 07:10 | Link #2997 |
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Yuji is smarter than the average protagonist. He knows that the Snake of the Festival is still the enemy and is interested with the Reiji Maigo, so he uses this to influence Snakey's decisions.
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2011-01-13, 08:09 | Link #2998 | |
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SoF isn't going to resurrect but copy our world, a new one that Tomogara should be able to materialize without using PoE in that place. The function of SoF controlling Yuji's body and how he could use that God's power isn't the exactly the same as Flame Haze's. I know it somehow differs but didn't understand enough yet since my Japanese is still....yeah |
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I'm currently reading up on Novel 21, but my Kanji reading skills are not quite that adept. I'm only used to Hiragana and Katakana writing, so reading a new style of writing that I'm not used to is making it very difficult.
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