Relationships In The MSLN Series [SERIOUS DISCUSSION ONLY]

[raidou]

Well i am just assuming that since they are still surprised on Zafira case even though they knew that he is a familiar.

I was refering to most familiar in general/known by public.Since all the familiars shown so far are owned by high ranked mage so their intelligence lvl might be different.

@Nightingale, may i know which sound stage is that, if you happen to remember?(i assume it is A's SS)

[Meophist]

A's Sound Stage 03. Arisa and Suzuka talk about Arf's normal form is the wolf, but can become human, and Yuuno's normal form is human, but can become ferret.

[raidou]

Originally Posted by Meophist

A's Sound Stage 03. Arisa and Suzuka talk about Arf's normal form is the wolf, but can become human, and Yuuno's normal form is human, but can become ferret.

Thank you

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Meophist

I can try humour every now and then too, you know, despite what some may believe.

Erm, yeah sure... Why not...

Still I must say again in case some others forget...

Yuuno's not a familiar

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Maybe it's because Zafira doesn't give the bloated impression he's a familiar?

I mean... even if magic consumption's less, one would think that they wouldn't mind or even prefer a human form, even if shota, when they're not in battle. It's not like there's a huge gap in consumption.

Zafira, for one seems to treat himself fully like a guardian beast. He doesn't speak unless neccesary, he's in the beast form 24/7, and even takes it to himself to eat on the floor.

Can't wait for Subaru expression (( to that extention, the rookies )) when she finds out Zafira has a human form...if we ever see it, that's it.

So basically, he doesn't talk until he's directly refered to

[Avatar_notADV]

"Are you kidding? Being in familiar form all the time is great. Nobody expects you to sit behind a desk and fill out paperwork all day. Nobody wants you to help them right away with whatever they were supposed to be doing themselves. While Hayate and Rein get to tear their hair out trying to figure out how many boxes of toilet paper we need a month, I go out in the park and play frisbee -all day-. And I can bite things when I get pissed. Plus, the girls love it. They can't keep their hands OFF me."

- From Division 6, The Secret Diaries, Zafira interview

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Avatar_notADV

"Are you kidding? Being in familiar form all the time is great. Nobody expects you to sit behind a desk and fill out paperwork all day. Nobody wants you to help them right away with whatever they were supposed to be doing themselves. While Hayate and Rein get to tear their hair out trying to figure out how many boxes of toilet paper we need a month, I go out in the park and play frisbee -all day-. And I can bite things when I get pissed. Plus, the girls love it. They can't keep their hands OFF me."

- From Division 6, The Secret Diaries, Zafira interview

This man wins for absolute truth

There's also the fact that being a dog, he can see what most others could not...

[FlareKnight]

Zafira has just put into words what many people have believed throughout the ages "Being a dog is great!" He's so got a point, just look at when they were transporting to the hotel mission. Getting pet by Subaru, then Erio and Caro being shocked that he speaks. Seriously he should've added that speaking just blows people away, they are so impressed.

Zafira has the right attitude. Being outside of his familiar form is just too much work, once you look like a person people have way too many expectations. Might as well stay like that and let them do all the administrative work, he just has to show up and fight.

[S_K]

Originally Posted by Avatar_notADV

"Are you kidding? Being in familiar form all the time is great. Nobody expects you to sit behind a desk and fill out paperwork all day. Nobody wants you to help them right away with whatever they were supposed to be doing themselves. While Hayate and Rein get to tear their hair out trying to figure out how many boxes of toilet paper we need a month, I go out in the park and play frisbee -all day-. And I can bite things when I get pissed. Plus, the girls love it. They can't keep their hands OFF me."

- From Division 6, The Secret Diaries, Zafira interview

I totally agree with you there. And i like that last sentence

[-Breakthrough-]

I'm half supporter for NanohaxFate, half Nanoha Yuuno. I'd like to ask something about the past shipping spam off topic wars that happened in the image threads in this forum.

First off-Why the fuck are people flaming and bashing Yuuno just because he appeared in StrikerS? It's not like he tried making a move on nnanoha, all he does is make appearances and that's it. What makes fans so angry enough to make all these 'Kill Yuuno' or 'Yuuno is dead as holy god fuck' genres either by Nanoha or Fate in these 4comas or comic strips? I'm just pointing out though, what wrong has Yuuno done? He hasn't tried asking Nanoha out or done anything cruel to nanoha. He's a ferret boy...is that what he did wrong or is it because he's such an unpopular minor character? Jeez, sometimes, even I think myself, take fandom too far in overreact or flame terms. One thong's for sure, just glad those off-topic shipping wars wont be coming any longer in the forums again, it was getting pretty childish but yeah, I am half NanohaxFate and half for NanohaxYuuno,s imple and no argument and will leave it to that.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Oh goody , it's been nearly a week since the last post on this thread

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Daisuke CP9

First off-Why the fuck are people flaming and bashing Yuuno just because he appeared in StrikerS?

It's not like he tried making a move on nnanoha, all he does is make appearances and that's it.

I blame the lack of parental guidance for drugs and alcohol...

What makes fans so angry enough to make all these 'Kill Yuuno' or 'Yuuno is dead as holy god fuck' genres either by Nanoha or Fate in these 4comas or comic strips?

Ah, it can't be helped for those long standing 4komas

It's better to remain consistence with certain things for it to remain funny...

I'm just pointing out though, what wrong has Yuuno done? He hasn't tried asking Nanoha out or done anything cruel to nanoha.

Give it up, most of them can't be reasoned with... I've already tried

He's a ferret boy...is that what he did wrong or is it because he's such an unpopular minor character?

Ermm... Are you refering to the first two seasons, or the current season?

Cause he's only a minor character now...

Jeez, sometimes, even I think myself, take fandom too far in overreact or flame terms.

It can't be helped, there will always be overeacting people in these kinda things... On both sides.

[dkellis]

I don't know, the Yuuno-bashing is actually pretty calm compared to some other fandoms I've been in. (See: Fruits Basket.)

Having said that, "not as bad" does not mean "good".

Personally, I don't particularly care whom Nanoha ends up with romantically, but I wouldn't mind seeing some resolution to the matter in canon. This is unlikely to happen, though, since I don't think we'll be getting any more romance other than Erio/Caro (if that).

[Keroko]

I think that most people who go 'die ferret boy!' are mostly sarcastic. Should Yuuno ever be killed, I think most of them would go "Yeesh, that's just... wow... I never expected them to take me seriously..."

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Keroko

I think that most people who go 'die ferret boy!' are mostly sarcastic. Should Yuuno ever be killed, I think most of them would go "Yeesh, that's just... wow... I never expected them to take me seriously..."

shiiii~ you saw right through me

i mean..."die ferret boy!!!"

in the end this series isnt the type that would have any solid relationships tbh...they do throw hinters here and there but it usually ends up being exaggerated by fanboys thinking about the "possibilities" ~ i guess thats where the fun comes in ^.^

[S_K]

Everyone is being so mean to Yuuno! Lol

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Keroko

I think that most people who go 'die ferret boy!' are mostly sarcastic. Should Yuuno ever be killed, I think most of them would go "Yeesh, that's just... wow... I never expected them to take me seriously..."

I recalled the same thing happened to a certain pink princess...

Originally Posted by S_K

Everyone is being so mean to Yuuno! Lol

They're just afraid

... And confused...

... And fustrated...

...And my personal favorite, "DELUDED"

[An Hero in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I recalled the same thing happened to a certain pink princess...

I rather went "Wow, for once they took me seriously, hope that'll become more frequent"

If Yuuno getting killed is integrated in the main plot nicely I'll support it. If YXN relationship is developed decently I'll support it too. So far in S3 Yuuno wasn't able to make his existance worth my interest

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by An Hero in Disguise

I rather went "Wow, for once they took me seriously, hope that'll become more frequent"

If Yuuno getting killed is integrated in the main plot nicely I'll support it. If YXN relationship is developed decently I'll support it too. So far in S3 Yuuno wasn't able to make his existance worth my interest

NONE of the side characters were

But then again, the engine for the main plot was just warming up...

[Nightengale]

If you want me to be wholely honest, I don't really care for most of RF6 at this moment. Sure, they're a bunch of nice characters and there's a lot of "unspoken" promises in terms of character + plot development for them, but at this point, it's still...not there.

Which is why I care more for villains at this point than any of the aces, because the weight of their actions will be the real gear to the engine's boost.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

If you want me to be wholely honest, I don't really care for most of RF6 at this moment. Sure, they're a bunch of nice characters and there's a lot of "unspoken" promises in terms of character + plot development for them, but at this point, it's still...not there.

We've more or less seen all there is to be seen from RF6 There's very little they could show and surprised us now.

All, but one, of the good guys have already had their screentime ...

... I'm betting on the lone wolf

Which is why I care more for villains at this point than any of the aces, because the weight of their actions will be the real gear to the engine's boost.

The villians on their own doesn't interest me... Their (or at least one of them) interaction with our heroes, is what I'm looking out for

[An Hero in Disguise]

Hm, it's a character relationship thread, but maybe it won't be very off-topic:

What bothers me is the producers' relationship with the characters - so far it seems like they're afraid to do something wrong to any of them and are playing it too safe with the fans (as examples - keeping most of old characters in one bunch, no clear development to NXY, and more recently situation around Ep.8-9 - it felt like they screamed "No-no, don't misunderstand, Nanoha couldn't behave wrong, see - it's all explained and everyone's happy again", and there're probably more, that's to start the discussion ).