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Requiem-x · 2017-07-06, 07:56

That was an NTR doujin, down to the heroine going "why can't I refuse her/him?". So, mission accomplished, I guess. Certainly not the most complex of plots, but if we can have more makeout action like that, I see no reason to not come back to it. That said, though, it looks pretty cheap, and it felt so short compared to Tsurezure Children, the other short anime this season, so it probably won't the big breakout in yuri some hoped it would be.

Also, Hotaru could a more devilish looking pair of eyes.

@serenade beta
HOLY CRAP! Someone else watched and remembers W Wish!?

Maybe the cheapness reminds you of hentai anime?

Kuroageha · 2017-07-06, 09:27

New contender for comedy of the season?

DracoS · 2017-07-06, 10:06

New contender for that show your parents walked in and went "WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING?!?!?!"

Darthtabby · 2017-07-24, 15:13

Uggh. That black haired girl seems like she's kind of forcing the other girl into things she isn't comfortable with. And her boyfriend is if anything even worse. I can understand being angry upon finding out that you're essentially window dressing for your girlfriend's lesbian relationship with her best friend, but blackmailing her for sex is not cool. What a creep.

SPARTAN 119 · 2017-07-24, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Darthtabby

Uggh. That black haired girl seems like she's kind of forcing the other girl into things she isn't comfortable with. And her boyfriend is if anything even worse. I can understand being angry upon finding out that you're essentially window dressing for your girlfriend's lesbian relationship with her best friend, but blackmailing her for sex is not cool. What a creep.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly- I think we can make it official that this anime and its cast are scummier than Scum's Wish.

SvenCalBayan · 2017-08-02, 20:37

I think Sven Cal Bayan... errr, I mean L-Elf... err, I mean Fujiwara is kinda of a great villain of sorts in that anime.

His greatest move yet, episode 5 :

Spoiler for Creepy moves:

ArrowSmith · 2017-08-02, 22:53

It's a trap! Fujiwara is a playa.

Sixth · 2017-08-04, 00:16

This yuri anime is genius. NTR would meant nothing if the main male lead is a bad guy or jerk so the main girl can embrace her yuriness but too bad it isn't the case as the main male is lead is genuine a nice person. It is kinda made your heart ache when you see he got used and fooled by everyone in this anime. Well played, the author. Indeed a master of writing NTR.

SvenCalBayan · 2017-08-10, 02:59

Episode 5 ended in a cliffhanger.

Spoiler for Sven Cal Bayan stars in NTR.:

Well, episode 6 turned out to be a big joke, since

Spoiler for L-Elf Karlstein rocks NTR.:

Psyco Diver · 2017-09-20, 21:23

Wow thats sad, this show had a better conclusion than most other romantic anime, I mean really they resolved the main couple and its sad thats completely unheard of in most animes. Otherwise it wasn't bad, not really good either but since its ending was better than most it brings up the series as a whole

ArrowSmith · 2017-09-20, 22:50

Didn't see the yuri ending, but glad.

ScrewySquirrel · 2017-09-25, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Psyco Diver

Wow thats sad, this show had a better conclusion than most other romantic anime, I mean really they resolved the main couple and its sad thats completely unheard of in most animes. Otherwise it wasn't bad, not really good either but since its ending was better than most it brings up the series as a whole

It dropped off the radar here. look how few posts

Psyco Diver · 2017-09-25, 06:03

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Originally Posted by ScrewySquirrel

It dropped off the radar here. look how few posts

I can understand that it was a pretty trashy show to begin with, it unfortunately is one of the few romantic shows that actually resolved

darkchibi07 · 2017-09-25, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Psyco Diver

I can understand that it was a pretty trashy show to begin with, it unfortunately is one of the few romantic shows that actually resolved

Well, that plus the production values are utterly cheap not help it being a freakin' short.

Liddo-kun · 2018-06-28, 06:04

One of the worst yuri anime I've ever seen..

Ghostfriendly · 2022-07-24, 10:36

Took me five years to watch this, the show that was alleged to romanticise domestic abuse and lesbian sexual harassment; the nicest commentators have called the abused Hotaru's advances to Yuma a 'cycle of abuse'. This depressingly fails to appreciate the unjust social stigmata, and pressure to seek a heterosexual woman's happiness, that pushes gay teens into denial, dishonest relationships and self-hatred. The massive abuse of society pushed the vulnerable Hotaru into her self-hatred, abusive relationships, and her ill-advised expressions of love towards Yuma. Her dubiously-consensual advances, though wrong, inseparably result from her trauma and her love; they lack the threat of violence, fundamental selfishness and hatred of women in themselves that are inseparable from abuse of women by men. Yuma's inability to either consent to Hotaru's advances or outright refuse them, when she's really 'cheating' herself by going out with the idiot who can't tell that his best friend's an abuser, are a legitimate result of her supressed gayness. Not the disgusting 'women-want-to-be-raped' tropes at play in straight NTR.

I like a happy lesbian rom-com as much as the next person, and Netsuzou doesn't go as deeply into its themes as it should. It's overdramatised and shallow, but it is a genuine account of the pressures and emotional torments that gay teens are put through by a flawed society. The number of people who condemned this show, while failing to condemn series like Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer for the monstrous abuse of women by men that they do irredeemably romanticise is very depressing.

Regarding domestic abuse, the idea that Hotaru is 'letting' Fujiwara hit her is not a legitimisation, but an expression of the self-hatred that really does fuel abuse cases. It is sadly not unrealistic that a toerag like Fujiwara has friends and girls queuing up to be abused by him; girls already abused by societal expectations, even if they're straight. However, it really should have been noted that fear of violence from the abuser plays a much larger role in long-term domestic violence (fear of violence is also a likelier reason for women 'allowing' men to rape them than suppressed desire). However genuinely, admirably forthright Yuma was in standing up to Fujiwara, someone as sociopathic as he's shown to be would have the power to mess hers and Hotaru's lives up a great deal more than he does. One of this show's biggest flaws is that it isn't as dark as it could be.

Also, a lot of 'kissing interrupted' soap-opera silliness, average animation, and tasteless, poorly-drawn fanservice. Still, this was a seasonal anime, and one with a more genuine, sympathetic romance than many better plotted and more popular shows.

2017-08-02, 20:37	Link #26
SvenCalBayan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton Age: 35	I think Sven Cal Bayan... errr, I mean L-Elf... err, I mean Fujiwara is kinda of a great villain of sorts in that anime. His greatest move yet, episode 5 : Spoiler for Creepy moves: Blackmails both Hotaru & Yuma for a threesome. That guy sure knows how to get it.

2017-08-10, 02:59	Link #29
SvenCalBayan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton Age: 35	Episode 5 ended in a cliffhanger. Spoiler for Sven Cal Bayan stars in NTR.: With Fujiwara about to get some with both girls. Well, episode 6 turned out to be a big joke, since Spoiler for L-Elf Karlstein rocks NTR.: Fujiwara didn't get anything... until the end though. In the end, another cliffhanger... this time, this time Fuji will get them both, he has to.

2018-06-28, 06:04	Link #35
Liddo-kun is this so? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gradius Home World	One of the worst yuri anime I've ever seen.. __________________ Clearing 4 domain with Qiqi / MTGNexus - Magic Art Gallery / AnimEVO 2020 - EFZ tournament / Cool Japan Festival 2015

2022-07-24, 10:36	Link #36
Ghostfriendly Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Took me five years to watch this, the show that was alleged to romanticise domestic abuse and lesbian sexual harassment; the nicest commentators have called the abused Hotaru's advances to Yuma a 'cycle of abuse'. This depressingly fails to appreciate the unjust social stigmata, and pressure to seek a heterosexual woman's happiness, that pushes gay teens into denial, dishonest relationships and self-hatred. The massive abuse of society pushed the vulnerable Hotaru into her self-hatred, abusive relationships, and her ill-advised expressions of love towards Yuma. Her dubiously-consensual advances, though wrong, inseparably result from her trauma and her love; they lack the threat of violence, fundamental selfishness and hatred of women in themselves that are inseparable from abuse of women by men. Yuma's inability to either consent to Hotaru's advances or outright refuse them, when she's really 'cheating' herself by going out with the idiot who can't tell that his best friend's an abuser, are a legitimate result of her supressed gayness. Not the disgusting 'women-want-to-be-raped' tropes at play in straight NTR. I like a happy lesbian rom-com as much as the next person, and Netsuzou doesn't go as deeply into its themes as it should. It's overdramatised and shallow, but it is a genuine account of the pressures and emotional torments that gay teens are put through by a flawed society. The number of people who condemned this show, while failing to condemn series like Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer for the monstrous abuse of women by men that they do irredeemably romanticise is very depressing. Regarding domestic abuse, the idea that Hotaru is 'letting' Fujiwara hit her is not a legitimisation, but an expression of the self-hatred that really does fuel abuse cases. It is sadly not unrealistic that a toerag like Fujiwara has friends and girls queuing up to be abused by him; girls already abused by societal expectations, even if they're straight. However, it really should have been noted that fear of violence from the abuser plays a much larger role in long-term domestic violence (fear of violence is also a likelier reason for women 'allowing' men to rape them than suppressed desire). However genuinely, admirably forthright Yuma was in standing up to Fujiwara, someone as sociopathic as he's shown to be would have the power to mess hers and Hotaru's lives up a great deal more than he does. One of this show's biggest flaws is that it isn't as dark as it could be. Also, a lot of 'kissing interrupted' soap-opera silliness, average animation, and tasteless, poorly-drawn fanservice. Still, this was a seasonal anime, and one with a more genuine, sympathetic romance than many better plotted and more popular shows. Last edited by Ghostfriendly; 2022-07-24 at 11:38.

2017-07-06, 07:56	Link #21
Requiem-x The slacking one Join Date: Apr 2012	That was an NTR doujin, down to the heroine going "why can't I refuse her/him?". So, mission accomplished, I guess. Certainly not the most complex of plots, but if we can have more makeout action like that, I see no reason to not come back to it. That said, though, it looks pretty cheap, and it felt so short compared to Tsurezure Children, the other short anime this season, so it probably won't the big breakout in yuri some hoped it would be. Also, Hotaru could a more devilish looking pair of eyes. @serenade beta HOLY CRAP! Someone else watched and remembers W Wish!? Maybe the cheapness reminds you of hentai anime?

2017-07-06, 09:27	Link #22
Kuroageha Mystic Musician Join Date: Jul 2015	New contender for comedy of the season?

2017-07-06, 10:06	Link #23
DracoS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017	New contender for that show your parents walked in and went "WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING?!?!?!"

2017-07-24, 15:13	Link #24
Darthtabby Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Uggh. That black haired girl seems like she's kind of forcing the other girl into things she isn't comfortable with. And her boyfriend is if anything even worse. I can understand being angry upon finding out that you're essentially window dressing for your girlfriend's lesbian relationship with her best friend, but blackmailing her for sex is not cool. What a creep.

2017-08-02, 22:53	Link #27
ArrowSmith Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	It's a trap! Fujiwara is a playa.

2017-08-04, 00:16	Link #28
Sixth Hu Tao Join Date: Oct 2006	This yuri anime is genius. NTR would meant nothing if the main male lead is a bad guy or jerk so the main girl can embrace her yuriness but too bad it isn't the case as the main male is lead is genuine a nice person. It is kinda made your heart ache when you see he got used and fooled by everyone in this anime. Well played, the author. Indeed a master of writing NTR.

2017-09-20, 21:23	Link #30
Psyco Diver Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	Wow thats sad, this show had a better conclusion than most other romantic anime, I mean really they resolved the main couple and its sad thats completely unheard of in most animes. Otherwise it wasn't bad, not really good either but since its ending was better than most it brings up the series as a whole

2017-09-20, 22:50	Link #31
ArrowSmith Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Didn't see the yuri ending, but glad.