Mahou Senki Lyrical Nanoha Force Manga Discussion

[00-Raiser]

Mercernaries would be more accurate. Terrorists work by, well, terrorizing. Since the Huckebein mostly keep their actions secret it doesn't really apply to them.

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by dahak

There was a mention of Transfer points [and a fight that consisted of gadget drones attempting an intercept before our heroines could reach one] in the Manga and people teleporting from the Athra seemed to arrive in fights by flight except when near the coast. Which would explain why Fate and Nanoha say good bye there rather than somewhere more private.

I rather suspect long range teleportation is limited as to the locations it can be done to or from. That explains among other things why Tiana and Hayate go to the airport to teleport to Navy HQ and return there rather than directly to Long Arch.

Hmm? Transfer Points? Interesting, I've suspected that Nanohaverse teleportation has limitations (which is why I never agree with the "Yuuno was actually ULTRA AWESOME!" sentiment - his defenses are top notch, but I don't think his teleports can be weaponized the way his fans believed them so) but I never recalled any mention Transfer Points. Source, please? I need to jog my memory.

All the talk about teleportation made me sad on two things, that 1)despite the name Mobile Section 6, none of the protagonist seems to remember teleportation as a major mobilization asset, and 2) it's the antagonist that used them instead!

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

lol, I just went to nanoha wikia about the huckebein...is terrorist considered as an occupation? xD

Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

Well, they do it for the living, apparently. :3 Both literally and in the "earning money" sense.

Well, if the summary below was correct -

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

Well, while we wait until having more context about Signum's awakening, here's the summary of Ch. 17(published in spanish as always xDU).

Spoiler for Lots of stuff again xD:

* A video came to S6 Headquarters, in it Curren warns the TSAB, civilian population and general authorities about a "meeting event" they will have and that they don't want to be molested under the menace of taking civilian lives if they do it. The video was intercepted by Teana before it can be transmited to the general public.

- sending threat videos to the public and all, my money's on YES.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

lol, I just went to nanoha wikia about the huckebein...is terrorist considered as an occupation? xD

Ask the Gruber brothers from the Die Hard film franchise.

[Justin_Brett]

A lot of mercenary villains can be considered terrorists, honestly, just because they have some kind of fiendish agenda. A main antagonist that just does what other people want is boring, I guess.

[Arcc]

Yes, but a terrorist is actually a lot more of a specific thing than just that. Scaglietti fit the bill, but I'm not convinced the Huckbein qualify.

[Keroko]

Well, there is no universally agreed definition of terrorism, but it's often agreed that terrorism is an act of violent done with the purpose of creating fear, often done without care of civilian casualties. So the Hucks killing a village to state "don't mess with us" would be considered an act of terrorism by many. The lovely caveat being that if you use "instilling fear" as your sole guideline, suddenly almost everyone in the world has committed acts of terrorism in his or her life. It's this vagueness of the definition which often leads it to be abused in politics.

[Zero Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Arcc

Yes, but a terrorist is actually a lot more of a specific thing than just that. Scaglietti fit the bill, but I'm not convinced the Huckbein qualify.

or maybe the Huckies are terrorists without a cause who consider that the strongest will dominate the weak, while the weak would be prey by more powerful one?

[Justin_Brett]

'Trying to incite fear and panic to serve your own ends while threatening those in authority, using a broadcasted video' is probably a more concrete definition, though.

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Zero Hurricane

or maybe the Huckies are terrorists without a cause who consider that the strongest will dominate the weak, while the weak would be prey by more powerful one?

More like "we're the only living beings who really matter and everyone else is cattle living with the purpouse to feed or killing needs" xDU.

[00-Raiser]

Not really. They've never done or said anything to suggest they think normal people only exist to feed them. Don't forget that they go out of their way to not kill as well.

[Justin_Brett]

Unless you're being a minor nuisance and they can get away with it. Then you die.

[00-Raiser]

Still, I don't think they're looking down on normal people as being inferior. They're just indifferent.

It's not like in defense of their actions they said "So what if we killed a few million people? There's billions more where that came from!"

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Not really. They've never done or said anything to suggest they think normal people only exist to feed them. Don't forget that they go out of their way to not kill as well.

To not kill unecessary, they are bloody murderers but they're not fools(specially Curren, she's very smart). Of course they need to plan their way to the top carefully.

[Justin_Brett]

It's not like in defense of their actions they said "So what if we killed a few million people? There's billions more where that came from!"

Not directly.

[00-Raiser]

Well Stella did go on that rant about how the Bureau shouldn't go after them because they've been 'nice' and mostly killed outside the Bureau's jurisdiction so the Bureau should leave them alone.

But Stella is only a child, so such logic makes sense to her.

[Justin_Brett]

Children tend to be influenced by adults around them.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

Children tend to be influenced by adults around them.

True, I didn't see anyone disagreeing with what she said.

[00-Raiser]

Fortis was telling her to stop the whole time.

Besides, they strike me as the type to go "You've already decided we're the bad guys so explaining ourselves is pointless."

[Justin_Brett]

You keep making that argument, Raiser, but coming from a devil's advocate it really doesn't make them look much better.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Fortis was telling her to stop the whole time.

More like telling her to stop talking, she didn't seem to disagree with what she was saying.

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Besides, they strike me as the type to go "You've already decided we're the bad guys so explaining ourselves is pointless."

Yeah, but really they have no regard at all for the lives of others, so they don't have a moral leg to stand on.