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Old 2010-05-22, 18:46   Link #2021
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Namekians are not asexual. They are hermaphrodites.
They don't require other Namekians to reproduce. That's called asexual reproduction, not a hermaphrodite.

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I thought Trunks and Goten reached Super Saiyan so easily because of them being hybrids.
Maybe, but it's not like Gohan had an easy time becoming Super Saiyan. I'm more inclined to believe it's because their fathers were already Super Saiyan by the time they were conceived (and in Goten's case, likely conceived while his father was Super Saiyan). And for Trunks, he was also being trained by the super powerful (by then) Vegeta.

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1/4th Sayans/Humans become SSJ without breaking a sweat. You can imagine their kids being born blond right away (when their hair starts to grow that is).
Only 1/4th Saiyan we see is Pan, and she sure as hell never went Super Saiyan.
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Old 2010-05-22, 19:50   Link #2022
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Only 1/4th Saiyan we see is Pan, and she sure as hell never went Super Saiyan.
Silly me, I meant half SSJ/humans.
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Old 2010-05-22, 20:21   Link #2023
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1/4th Sayans/Humans become SSJ without breaking a sweat. You can imagine their kids being born blond right away (when their hair starts to grow that is).
Do you think Toriyama was referencing (or even knows of) hybrid vigor? Probably not, but if he did, the effect gets weaker with each progressive generation.
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Old 2010-05-23, 01:32   Link #2024
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Well, first of all Namekians are asexual beings. You can't breed a standard sapien-esque species with them.

As for the others, no one knew that Saiyan/Human was strong until Gohan came along, and there's still no telling what exactly makes him so special since the other Saiyan/Human hybrids don't seem to have the same hidden potential that he did.
Asexual doesn't mean much to them. Just wish for the required "equipment" from the dragonballs.
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Old 2010-05-23, 03:36   Link #2025
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Do you think Toriyama was referencing (or even knows of) hybrid vigor? Probably not, but if he did, the effect gets weaker with each progressive generation.
I the only practical hybrid I know of are the mules, and they are all sterile males.
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Old 2010-05-23, 12:47   Link #2026
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I don't know, but I get the feeling that IRL biology, physics etc don't really apply in DBZ. Piccolo should just gather the dragonballs and wish for a pair of dragon's balls, as well as a dragon's dick.
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Old 2010-05-23, 15:07   Link #2027
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In any case, Future Trunks had a much harder time turning super saiyan while Present Trunks turned super as a kid.

The only real difference is that Future Trunks was conceived by a non-super Vegeta while Present Trunks was conceived when Vegeta had achieved super saiyan.

It's only correlation but it can be used as a convenient explanation.
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Old 2010-05-23, 15:55   Link #2028
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Yes and it appears this convenience only works for males, as Pan and Bra never achieved SSJ. Looks like the "girls are useless" rule of shounen physics applies fine.
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Old 2010-05-23, 16:47   Link #2029
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Yes and it appears this convenience only works for males, as Pan and Bra never achieved SSJ.
But that's GT you're talking about, isn't? I think that by the end of the manga Pan is just a baby and we don't really know whether she can go SSJ or not...
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Old 2010-05-23, 21:41   Link #2030
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Don't know if this was already posted.

We're already in episode 58 and still in the beginning of the android saga. The series still has to cover the Imperfect/perfect cell sagas.

Do people seriously think that the World tournament, Babidi, Buu, Fusion, and Kid buu sagas will be covered if they plan on making a total of 100 episodes? That means they have to cover ALL those sagas in less then 20 episodes.

So I assume they will be ending the series when gohan
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Old 2010-05-23, 22:04   Link #2031
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^ This has been addressed numerous times already. There was never any confirmation from Toei that Kai would cover the entire Z story in 100 episodes. That being said, given the current number of episodes in Kai and how much material there is left to cover, Kai will most likely be longer than 100 episodes.
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Old 2010-05-24, 04:23   Link #2032
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Poor Yamcha. I'm feeling sorry for you already just by seeing the preview for next weeks episode.

& i forgot how hot Bulma looks after the three year time skip.
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Old 2010-05-24, 12:16   Link #2033
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"Poor Vegeta-chan" LOL! Bulma's parents are the funniest characters in Dragonball. I wish they showed more of their antics.
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Old 2010-05-24, 12:52   Link #2034
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As always impressed at the speed we're getting while going through the material. Can get right into the fight against the Androids next episode. Though I'm sure some were hoping for the learning to drive filler to slip in there . But really glad they are quickly getting back to the action.

Favourite part is still Chichi getting knocked through the wall out of the house. She's always just really annoyed me while watching the original and Kai.
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Old 2010-05-24, 13:22   Link #2035
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As always impressed at the speed we're getting while going through the material. Can get right into the fight against the Androids next episode. Though I'm sure some were hoping for the learning to drive filler to slip in there . But really glad they are quickly getting back to the action.

Favourite part is still Chichi getting knocked through the wall out of the house. She's always just really annoyed me while watching the original and Kai.
It is sad, she was so cute at the beginning of the show, then, once she has Gohan, she turns into crazy lady. I will give her props for putting up with Goku, who is gone for what seems like years at a time doing random training or getting killed and whatnot.
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Old 2010-05-24, 14:07   Link #2036
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English dubbed release airing tonight.

There is still one thing that's been bothering me. How are the new viewers going to understand what's going on? Don't they have to watch the original Dragonball first?

Nicktoons should have aired the original Dragonball months ago. (I'm not talking about DBZ. I'm talking about DB).
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Old 2010-05-24, 14:54   Link #2037
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It is sad, she was so cute at the beginning of the show, then, once she has Gohan, she turns into crazy lady.
Indeed. Dragonball Chichi was very sweet and cute. But then she gives birth and just BAM crazy change. At least Bulma stayed consistent and had a believable development throughout the series.
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Old 2010-05-24, 15:59   Link #2038
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To be fair, Chi-Chi was always insane. She took a marriage proposal seriously from someone she had only met like twice, and actually became engaged on their third or fourth meeting. Keeping in mind that said meeting was like 3-4 years later... yeah, she was coo-coo the whole time.
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Old 2010-05-24, 16:53   Link #2039
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Tell all the story. She married Goku because

1) He did a pat-pat on her, which means she can't marry anyone else thereafter.
2) Her father practically sold her to him, because he was the adopted son of his fellow martial artist Gohan (the grampa).
3) Goku was stronger than her and kicked her ass in the tournament
4) Goku agreed because he thought marriage was food. I can just imagine him trying to eat her on their first night.

Yup, nuts all of them. Not just Chichi.
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Old 2010-05-25, 01:46   Link #2040
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It is sad, she was so cute at the beginning of the show, then, once she has Gohan, she turns into crazy lady. I will give her props for putting up with Goku, who is gone for what seems like years at a time doing random training or getting killed and whatnot.
No doubt she does have a lot to deal with concerning Goku. Though she definitely just snapped after having Gohan. I mean caring about your child's future is a reasonable thing. But she buries the kid in school work, tries to cut him away from martial arts (which is amazing considering her past in it), and could care less if the planet is destroyed. Someone should pass along the message that the afterlife doesn't care about your educational credentials. She really just turned into a character I never wanted to see much of.
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