Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT - Episode 10 Discussion / Poll

[finalfury]

Originally Posted by Haak

Sorry, but I got a vastly different interpretation. The way Rika asked about Kodaka's relationship with Sena seems very clear to me that Rika was commenting on Kodaka's evasive answers to romantic questions, than questions of friendship.

I'm mean if the issue really is that Kodaka doesn't want to acknowledge that they're friends and just that, then I'm even more confused about why that's an issue. What's the problem of not admitting they're friends when they already are? Maria and Kobato don't have that problem: The fact that they don't admit to being friends is actually played up as just another endearing characteristic of their tsundere-ish relationship. Now obviously Kodaka isn't tsundere-ish to anyone, but that's another problem. If it really is just about Kodaka not wanting to admit they're friends then what exactly is his reason? Why does he have that problem? It's kinda hard to feel the full weight of the situation when you can't understand why it's like that in the first place.

I think if you incorporate the idea that Kodaka does not like change, then you can see that the idea of acknowledging that they are all friends is impossible for him. My view is that he sees the club as a safe haven for him; once they acknowledge that they are friends, the club will pretty much have no reason to exist since they managed to make friends. Like I said before somewhere else, Kodaka represents the present, Sena represents the future, and Yozora represents the past, with their entire being being focused on this aspects of time. Kodaka wants a static present and Yozora wants a static past as portrayed in the show. Sena just wants her waifus with the creme de la creme being Kobato.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by finalfury

I think if you incorporate the idea that Kodaka does not like change, then you can see that the idea of acknowledging that they are all friends is impossible for him. My view is that he sees the club as a safe haven for him; once they acknowledge that they are friends, the club will pretty much have no reason to exist since they managed to make friends. Like I said before somewhere else, Kodaka represents the present, Sena represents the future, and Yozora represents the past, with their entire being being focused on this aspects of time. Kodaka wants a static present and Yozora wants a static past as portrayed in the show. Sena just wants her waifus with the creme de la creme being Kobato.

I'm guessing that's a light novel detail...

In any case, do they really need to be club when they've already acknowledged each other as friends? Then they'd just hang out, wouldn't they?

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Haak

I'm guessing that's a light novel detail...

In any case, do they really need to be club when they've already acknowledged each other as friends? Then they'd just hang out, wouldn't they?

Nope logical conclusion

[Haak]

So basically fan speculation then? I think a crucial detail like that would have been specifically stated somewhere in the show if it was really that important.

[Lexxus]

Errr. Sena is really creepy.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by novalysis

For those asking for the omitted monologue, here it is. (Since the whole scene has already been animated, I think it should be safe to put this in here.)

Spoiler for Comparison of Episode 10 to the end of Volume Seven:

This was what Kodaka was actually thinking in the pause between yelling at Rika to stop, and Rika's response.
"
"Don't you think it's about time we move on? I mean——"

"Stop it!"

I unintentionally let out a wild yell.

I absolutely cannot let her finish that sentence.

If she did, I'd, we'd... have no choice but to move on.'


And moving on... means changing.

That is an incredibly scary thing.

It's truly terrifying, like moving from a bright, warm room into a world of darkness that leaves you completely blind.

It's not just me either.

I'm sure it's the same for Yozora, Sena, Yukimura, and Rika too.

Those words are ones that could bring about an irreversible change that would shake the Neighbors Club itself.

That change would truly be irreversible—— it can't even be compared to trivial problems like a memory from 10 years ago, or a pre-arranged marriage.

"...Hahh." Rika let out a fleeting sigh as she went completely silent.

I let out a tiny sigh myself, and said, "...I'm gonna go now," as I walked off.

I'd gotten away from Rika—— and just as I put my hand on the knob to the roof's door,

Rika whispered something behind me.

In a voice that sounded like it was shaking—— like it was crying.

My entire body shook with terror.

However, that very instant,

Luckily—— whether or not it was truly lucky, I don't know, but——a wind far stronger than before roared across the rooftop, and erased Rika's words.
And I, like the coward I am, signed a breath of relief.

I turned only my head around to face Rika.

"——Eh? What'd you say?"
"

It's not mere unjustified cowardice here. We have a very insecure, socially alienated guy who is very scared of losing it all.

He's still a coward, he even admits it himself. Simply an even bigger one we could have ever imagined. Now, I'm not undermining the problem, that in itself is indeed a huge issue. He is letting fear dictate his actions. I know what that feels like.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Kanon

He's still a coward, he even admits it himself. Simply an even bigger one we could have ever imagined. Now, I'm not undermining the problem, that in itself is indeed a huge issue. He is letting fear dictate his actions. I know what that feels like.

It's cowardice rooted on insecurity. Should we be contemptuousness, or pity him?

[Kanon]

I definitely pity him.

[richardtengcy]

Me too....Rika is giving him hints that the girls like him but he choose to pretend not to know it. #facepalm

[mangamuscle]

Spineless™ MC is spineless. Sena definetively has more balls than him >_<

[Johnny]

Spineless is somewhat harsh. Like Kano said you can't help but pity him...

He knows that they're friends already and that all of them like him in some fashion. If he chooses one the others are more than likely going to be hurt. Will they remain friends as a result? I think he believes why take that chance when on the surface everything is going fine.

He's also not that experienced in these type of social settings as well so some of this is new to him too. He is just a teenager after all and an awkward one at that at times...

[Sumeragi]

Those who say Kodaka is spineless are the spineless ones (for a different reason). We have to remember every member of the club is extremely flawed one way or another, and we still don't know what made Kodaka the way he is right now.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Those who say Kodaka is spineless are the spineless ones (for a different reason). We have to remember every member of the club is extremely flawed one way or another, and we still don't know what made Kodaka the way he is right now.

Actually it would be interesting to see Kodaka being really spineless and Sena, dressed in leather and a whip, having her way with him. Then Yozora, being jealous, does the same and joins in.

I said nothing. Move on.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

... and we still don't know what made Kodaka the way he is right now.

While there is a lot we do not know about most of the females of this series, I would be very surprised if later on (that includes the light novels) there is anything new about Kodaka's past that would serve as a valid excuse for behaving so wimpy.

[Sumeragi]

And that's where you're missing the point. Kodaka is extremely conservative when it comes to relationships, which is not explainable using the usual "dense/wimp MC" excuses. In fact, for you to not say there is anything new about Kodaka's past just shows how much you have not been paying attention.

[Miraluka]

What made Kodaka what he is is his looks and his lack of confidence, I don't think his mother passing away affected him that much.

To quote someone above:

It's cowardice rooted on insecurity.

What makes it har to swallow Kodaka is his "Oops, didn't hear, so nothing happened" actittude, thats what pisses people off. Thats gonna bite his back later for sure and it is just the beginning.

Originally Posted by novalysis

It's cowardice rooted on insecurity. Should we be contemptuousness, or pity him?

Pity is at the bottom of my list if not that last.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

In fact, for you to not say there is anything new about Kodaka's past just shows how much you have not been paying attention.

Then do elaborate, you should already now the internet rules, "link or it didn't happen".

[SaintessHeart]

Actually, I think that Kodaka's introversion towards the girls stem from the fact that almost all of the girls, other than Yukimura and Rika, are pretty aggressive towards him. Constantly being the ones suggesting things and then bickering over it, Kodaka simply acted the gentleman and pulled back into himself.

And that includes his little sister, who is driven by her brother complex. He is probably trying to deal with things one at a time because he had no experience in dealing with controlling and domonating girls who all want his undivided attention for themselves.

Though with regards to Kobato, it is completely wrong ethically (even when it comes to the VA, having a meek actress for an aggressive brocon?). That is why she is constantly being sidelined like Maria, making the whole thing seem like a three-way game between Yozora, Sena and Kodaka.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Actually, I think that Kodaka's introversion towards the girls stem from the fact that almost all of the girls, other than Yukimura and Rika, are pretty aggressive towards him.

I think so far he has dealt quite well (for a teenager with no social experience) with the looney antics of his personal harem, it is with the normal antics where he falls flat on his face.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Johnny

Spineless is somewhat harsh. Like Kano said you can't help but pity him...

I totally can.

He knows that they're friends already and that all of them like him in some fashion. If he chooses one the others are more than likely going to be hurt. Will they remain friends as a result? I think he believes why take that chance when on the surface everything is going fine.

He's also not that experienced in these type of social settings as well so some of this is new to him too. He is just a teenager after all and an awkward one at that at times...

I wouldn't mind so much if, on that basis, he friendzoned them all. Or even if he denied they had romantic feelings for him.

But to deny to Rika that they're friends? WTH is wrong with him?