Tokyo Ravens [Light Novel]

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

I'm a little confused about something though. What did Natsume mean about by " we both don't owe each anything now"?

I think she was referring that she was/is keeping a secret from him (that she is/was Hokuto).
Though it doesn't make much sense to tell Harutora at that point, since he hadn't figured out that much yet, but I think she was partly talking to herself too, and simply wanting to tell Harutora they were even (despite the latter not knowing what she was talking about).

[Iron Maw]

Ah, it does make sense she was probably talking about her secret in relation to Harutora not saying anything about Touji. And I agree likely more to herself than him since he won't understand her comment till much later.

I must say though, her Hokuto-side really came out during this scene, it's no wonder Harutora had been reminded a bit of it in her.

EDIT: Dat mischievous smirk though.

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getting a little too close there huh Natsume? XD

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[Used Can]

Indeed
Though I'm happy we'll be able to see the LN adapted up to volume 9, I'm sad that the pacing has to be rushed so much that good moments like that one have to be skipped. It's even more of an issue, because this story clearly is character driven and all the character interaction is meaningful. So, cutting out scenes and interaction clearly limits the experience for us anime watchers.

And that's why I'm really glad there is someone translating the LN right now, since that way we get to experience the real thing.

[Iron Maw]

Absolutely agreed on all points. I still think the anime is a decent adaptation for what it is and at the very least it's good enough to get people interested in source material.

[versionf]

The rest of the series should be fine if they can do episode 14 properly.

[cloud04]

anime pretty much blow till ch 41 of the manga LOL

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Absolutely agreed on all points. I still think the anime is a decent adaptation for what it is and at the very least it's good enough to get people interested in source material.

I know some people may not be happy with cutting, but let's be real. This is so going to be worth it to see Harutora's reigning moment of badasss-ery.

[Iron Maw]

I know well how things turn out in end too, but the "journey" is still important as they say. Like I said though, the adaptation isn't horrible or anything (in fact it's quite good overall). It just could have better then it is if had more episodes or smarter rearrangement so that we wouldn't getting as much cut due to pacing. Ep 13-14 could still turn out to be a decent representation of Vol 6 if it's executed well enough. So I still have some optimism.

[Used Can]

I think we're all willing to make-do with this extremely rushed pacing just to see the events of volume 9.

However, it stands for a fact that a lot is being left out, and as I said before, this story clearly is very, VERY character driven. So, skipped scenes means skipped interaction, and interaction in a story that is heavily driven by its characters tends to be really meaningful. Therefore, anime-only fans are missing out on a lot.
I haven't read the LNs, other than what has been translated, but even with just that plus the manga (scanlations and raws), I can tell the anime really is skipping a lot - sure, it is necessary, but plenty of things are still being left out.

So, this is one of those anime adaptations in which you really need to check out the source material, if you really want the whole thing instead of an abridged story.

[Iron Maw]

Chapter 3 of vol 2 up at Baka-Tsuki.


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@versionf

Spoiler for curious:

Is anything in story that points to how old Yakou was before he died?

[Hell_ping]

Somehow I wonder if there's a need to continue work with the manga...

I'll do up till 25 first, and then I'll see how it goes (If I can do them ASAP)

[Seitsuki]

Ping sempai picked this up? Harem of the year?

[Hell_ping]

Originally Posted by Seitsuki

Ping sempai picked this up? Harem of the year?

The manga, actually.

Well, let's see. If I want to do a LN harem this time, it'll be Saenai Kanojo

[Seitsuki]

Yuri harem when?

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Somehow I wonder if there's a need to continue work with the manga...

I'll do up till 25 first, and then I'll see how it goes (If I can do them ASAP)

Well, whether you still decide to continue with the manga from there or not I just want to say thanks for helping viscans by picking it up despite your busy schedule (on top of all your other projects no less). I've really enjoyed your translations so far.

[versionf]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Spoiler for curious:

Is anything in story that points to how old Yakou was before he died?

What we know from vol 1 is pretty much everything. New head of the family got recruited by military and died when the war end, so he was really young.

[Iron Maw]

I see.

Spoiler for more speculation:

Though, I guess if we use Hishamaru's appearance as a guide (she looks to be in her mid to early 20's) and the fact that she grew up with him, he was probably around the same age. I wonder if this means that Harutora is technically in his 30's then.

[Used Can]

Spoiler for Hishamaru:

Was Hishamaru born around Yakou's time?
Assuming she was already a shikigami by the time Yakou met her, she might have already been considerably old.

Anyhow, as far as maturity goes, I don't think Yakou's age matters much. Assuming he had been performing his duties as the head of the Tsuchimikado family for a considerable amount of time, and his role and duties during the war plus all the experience he seemed to had, I'd say he was already rather mature, even if he was young.

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler for Hishamaru:

Was Hishamaru born around Yakou's time?
Assuming she was already a shikigami by the time Yakou met her, she might have already been considerably old.

Anyhow, as far as maturity goes, I don't think Yakou's age matters much. Assuming he had been performing his duties as the head of the Tsuchimikado family for a considerable amount of time, and his role and duties during the war plus all the experience he seemed to had, I'd say he was already rather mature, even if he was young.

I was under the impressions that Hishamaru was Natsume's predecessor had Natsume and Harutora not been switched at birth. So Hishamaru should be around the same age as Yakou.

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler for Hishamaru:

Was Hishamaru born around Yakou's time?
Assuming she was already a shikigami by the time Yakou met her, she might have already been considerably old.

Spoiler for Hishamaru:

According to versionf, vol 9 revealed that Hishamaru used to be human as well as a branch family member of Tsuchimikados as BW67 points out. In her childhood she was under possession of a Fox Spirit making her a hybrid like Touji (and now Natsume in vol 10). Because of this she had been imprisoned and isolated since her birth by the Tsuchimikados until shota Yakou took her under his wing. He made her his shikigami in the Tsuchimikado tradition just like Natsume did to Harutora thus sheltering her from the rest of clan. From then on they apparently grew up together as childhood friends and some point Hishamaru gave up her remaining humanity. Also she was not given a birth name, Hishamaru was the name Yakou had given her.

So they really much more then servant and master. Interesting enough, their relationship kinda parallels Harutora and Natsume.