[Anime-only] Naruto Shippuden Episode 253 Discussion

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Detective-san

Madara using a pipe to swat away paper-shuriken.

Nice bonus.

I prefered the scene without, like it was originally.
Tobi stopping Konan cold before she could even try to defend herself felt more brutal and coldly efficient which is one of Tobi's trademark. He doesn't play much in the flashy department, he's the type of vilain who'd stick explosive to a child just to make a diversion or gut you from behind with a broken pipe before choking you to death with his bare hand.
No flashy Taijutsu moves, just plain cold murder.
I like that.

[HasuMasu]

That particular scene made Konan look really bad.

I mean, the dude lost an arm and an eye, plus he's an old fart with a half-assed Zetsu body.

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by Hunter

I prefered the scene without, like it was originally.
Tobi stopping Konan cold before she could even try to defend herself felt more brutal and coldly efficient which is one of Tobi's trademark. He doesn't play much in the flashy department, he's the type of vilain who'd stick explosive to a child just to make a diversion or gut you from behind with a broken pipe before choking you to death with his bare hand.
No flashy Taijutsu moves, just plain cold murder.
I like that.

I remember people didn't like the rainbow scene, they even made a lot of jokes about it, similarly to the scene where Sasuke cries and we see his teammates and then Kishimoto draws a random hawk there
The anime team probably wanted to fix that scene. Of course as always, the outcome of their efforts is questionable

[Shiryuu]

Originally Posted by Xagzan

Haha, I said older. I'd like to think she and Nagato were at least in their late 30s. Based on Jiraiya's age when he trained them, it always seemed like they were around the same age as Naruto's parents.



Yeah, but he doesn't kill the younger ones!

So Tsunade is really a dude since she's still alive...?

[Vorenus]

Great episode. Konan was a nice character.
Though I think she should have planned a B-plan as well.
Her first plan was very clever and revealed us some of the Madara's weaknesses, but she bet all her money on it... not that she would have had much chakra to do anything equally impressive though...
If anything, she should have committed suicide to prevent Madara to made reveal the location of the Nagato's corpse... or made them explode remotely, no matter how previous to her it was...
To the other posters who wonder why Madara didn't use Susano'o, I'm not sure he can actually do it. Mangekyo Sharingan's powers seem to differ from users to users.
My understanding is that Sasuke's Susano'o and Amaterasu are a gift from Itachi.
So Madara may have special Mangekyo Sharingan's powers which we don't know yet (or is his teleportation jutsu one of these powers... just seems to be a different application than Kakashi's Kamui).

I was first expecting this red paper to be a dying message to Naruto, similar to what Jiraiya's did, to reveal to him some of Madara's power and let him know she was no longer in the course...

That said, I liked the flashback about the 3 kids and found it was a nice way to wrap things up about them.

Madara's revelation that Nagato was an Uzumaki was shocking too.
Was Nagato himself aware he was part of the Uzumaki clan as he didn't refer to his lineage at any point when chasing Naruto or talking with him...

Also, during the flashback, Jiraiya mentionned the kids having to learn to stay perfectly still: does that mean he intended to teach them Sage Mode eventually?

[HasuMasu]

^ I too wonder why he wanted to teach them to stay still.

Not that we will ever find out since all of them are dead now.

[Kafriel]

Jiraiya mentionned the kids having to learn to stay perfectly still: does that mean he intended to teach them Sage Mode eventually?

That, and the toad costumes, so yes I assume that was his intention.

To the other posters who wonder why Madara didn't use Susano'o, I'm not sure he can actually do it. Mangekyo Sharingan's powers seem to differ from users to users.
My understanding is that Sasuke's Susano'o and Amaterasu are a gift from Itachi.

If you go back to Sasuke's fight with A, he used his right eye to control the amaterasu spawning from his left eye, unlike Itachi who cast tsukuyomi with one and amaterasu with the other. It's quite possible that Madara has another technique, or that his warping is what he got from his eyes (kind of like Kakashi's kamui).

[neshru]

Originally Posted by Vorenus

Great episode. Konan was a nice character.
Though I think she should have planned a B-plan as well.

Her B-plan was the sea of exploding tags. If that wasn't going to work, nothing would have.

[Frenchie]

Hey Konan fucked up an arm and an eye, I say decent effort ol' gal.

[Ushio the Omega]

More Naruto filler coming in April?

Episode 257 April 5, 2012
"Four Week Long Special Project For the Broadcast's Tenth Anniversary: 'Meeting'"
"Hōsō Jūshūnen Yonshū Renzoku Tokubetsu Kikaku 'Deai'" (放送10周年4週連続特別企画「出会い」)

[neshru]

Originally Posted by Ushio the Omega

More Naruto filler coming in April?

As posted one page ago:

Originally Posted by neshru

It looks like the four episodes following 256 will be some kind of filler arc to celebrate the Naruto anime's 10th anniversary. The next canon arc will most likely start after those four episodes.

[kitten320]

Whoever dares to call Konan weak, better re-watch this fight again.
So far she is the only one who damaged Madara so much, at least in this age.

[Eragon]

Well at least one female character in Naruto has a backbone(well other than hinata). Man wished it was someone else other than tobi she was fighting. Would have loved to see her wipe the floor with someone else.

[Expendable GM Pilot]

So how is it possible that Jiraiya was using Rasengan against the orphans when he learned it from Minato AFTER he left them.

[HasuMasu]

Originally Posted by Expendable GM Pilot

So how is it possible that Jiraiya was using Rasengan against the orphans when he learned it from Minato AFTER he left them.

I guess the anime team didn't read the manga...

[Expendable GM Pilot]

Was there something going on between Konan and Yahiko?

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by Expendable GM Pilot

Was there something going on between Konan and Yahiko?

They were lovers.