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Old 2021-05-15, 14:13   Link #6961
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Maybe.. But if we talk about punishment to make Evil actions.. Ishi was unable to put in prison some years(10 for example) the H.Faction who is a group of Young humans who made more to deserve years of prison(in human years) than her..

Nyx joined the Alliance of Hell and was defeated quickly in 1 volume.. The Main characters only feared her Few Days.. Her actions were not a big deal. They did not had a lot of negative effect in others.

The H.Faction created a lot of problems before met the Mcs and were here active as villains some volumes and the author trolled us with their punishments.


Using Samael Cao killed Issei but unlike Raynare he did not received any punishment(dead or prison).. The author even forced Issei to be his friend in Shin3.

REALLY? Friends? You can forgive the group but make him Issei friend is Stupid.. Cao killed him. Is like if Raynare survived and he made her Issei friend after what she made with him.
Losing an eye and having to escape the Netherworld without his Holy Spear wasn't punishment enough?
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Old 2021-05-16, 04:30   Link #6962
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Losing an eye and having to escape the Netherworld without his Holy Spear wasn't punishment enough?
You talk about the eye thing like if you feel bad for him.. Why he lost it? To make him leave a battle that he could have won.. Is his own fault for kidnapp Yasaka that he ended paying for it.
Issei had a Worst fate later thanks to him who released Samael but despite that the author had the stupid idea to make him his friend(shin 3) Guy.. 1 year ago or even less he Killed Issei. They should be unlikely allies at best not friends. If we were 5 years later it could sound less weird. Not now. His group is still watched trying to avoid any kind of betrayal.


You talk too like if he was too weak without that weapon making his survival almost impossible. Others are in prison/sealed during years. Boring but at least they are really paying for their actions.

What Jeanne received for example was not a real punishment and was enough miserable to use a kid trying to save her own life.. Heracles too having many as hostages and despite that the author made kids adore him. When he was here for one "punishment" not because he wanted

What I should think with THIS? That even people like Raynare and Diodora are easily redeemable If the author wants it?

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Old 2021-05-16, 05:38   Link #6963
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Losing an eye and having to escape the Netherworld without his Holy Spear wasn't punishment enough?
Kokabiel because he tried to kill Rias, the Maou’s sister and take the Excalibur from the Church to provoke a new war among the three factions was sealed for the eternity in the Cocictus.

On the other hand, Cao Cao kidnapped Yasaka, the leader of west Houkai faction while she had to meet Sun Wukong for Indra, making the brain-mash. They did experiments on Humans and released the method to obtain BxB, creating a rebellion of the servants against their Kings during underworld’s crisis.
They helped Shalba to survive, the same who kidnapped Leonard creating twelve powerful monster who created an immense destruction and death, putting underworld in a big crisis. Attacking every factions to obtain dates and divided Ophis’ power into two beings. Giving to Rivezim a powerful “guard” and leaving the possibility to Ophis to kill Trihexa.

So yes
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Old 2021-05-16, 05:47   Link #6964
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Issei had a Worst fate later thanks to him who released Samael
Cao Cao with that did him a favour, giving him an immense potential to overpass the Dragon-God class. Otherwise at this point issei would still ultimate-class with only CxC and death.
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Old 2021-05-16, 05:50   Link #6965
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Cao Cao with that did him a favour, giving him an immense potential to overpass the Dragon-God class. Otherwise at this point issei would still ultimate-class with only CxC and death.
A "Favour" because in that case we can say that Raynare made that to him too

No one of them would had made it if they knew how this would end.

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Kokabiel because he tried to kill Rias, the Maou’s sister and take the Excalibur from the Church to provoke a new war among the three factions was sealed for the eternity in the Cocictus.

On the other hand, Cao Cao kidnapped Yasaka, the leader of west Houkai faction while she had to meet Sun Wukong for Indra, making the brain-mash. They did experiments on Humans and released the method to obtain BxB, creating a rebellion of the servants against their Kings during underworld’s crisis.
They helped Shalba to survive, the same who kidnapped Leonard creating twelve powerful monster who created an immense destruction and death, putting underworld in a big crisis. Attacking every factions to obtain dates and divided Ophis’ power into two beings. Giving to Rivezim a powerful “guard” and leaving the possibility to Ophis to kill Trihexa.

So yes
You explained it much better than me..

If this group can be "redeemed" persons like Thanatos who wanted to stop Hades(Not create more problems) and even Hades who wanted to stop the longinus creating more "disturbances in the force"(the longinus users moves created a lof of problems in 1 year) and became in the evies(who he wanted to stop too) victim too.

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Old 2021-05-16, 15:37   Link #6966
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A "Favour" because in that case we can say that Raynare made that to him too

No one of them would had made it if they knew how this would end.



You explained it much better than me..

If this group can be "redeemed" persons like Thanatos who wanted to stop Hades(Not create more problems) and even Hades who wanted to stop the longinus creating more "disturbances in the force"(the longinus users moves created a lof of problems in 1 year) and became in the evies(who he wanted to stop too) victim too.
Hades was still right, indirectly or directly, everything that has happened in these two years is the fault or was related to a longinus user ... even the invasion of ExE that ended with the death of the most powerful being in dxd.
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Old 2021-05-16, 15:53   Link #6967
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Itís not like they could touch caocao due to him being protected by Indra. Very few people are willing to cross him. Friends mightíve been too quick a stretch but... well... Isseis an idiot. And frankly it would be better to have caocao as a friend than an enemy
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Old 2021-05-17, 03:48   Link #6968
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It’s not like they could touch caocao due to him being protected by Indra. Very few people are willing to cross him. Friends might’ve been too quick a stretch but... well... Isseis an idiot. And frankly it would be better to have caocao as a friend than an enemy
I was thinking in them more like Unlikely allies.. That is how I would see Raynare if the author made her survive and "made the reconciliate" even if she was less evil.

Saying that because the H.Faction even Brainwashed people that interested them as subbordinates against their will and some died(and obviously had bigger and more chaotic plans than her). But the same author who killed Diodora is able to "redeem" them.

I thought that they would be enemies again when that Indra War idea appeared. But the author was unable to make it when he noticed that they would be enemies again and decided use the Robo-Aliens even having a 3rd option. The Malebranche.

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Old 2021-05-20, 14:00   Link #6969
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lilith will lost her memories and I imagine she will tag very well with issei a lilith healed and no memories is like insta win for issei and she can be happy I mean poor woman
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Old 2021-05-20, 14:45   Link #6970
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lilith will lost her memories and I imagine she will tag very well with issei a lilith healed and no memories is like insta win for issei and she can be happy I mean poor woman
Yeah I want her to leave behind her evil personality (I assume she has one) and forget her tragic past. I want Issei, the ultimate male devil, to marry the ultimate female devil, to show how his accomplishments have earned him his marriage with her, and for him to boast he is married to the #1 milf to show how good he is at seducing women.
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Old 2021-05-21, 10:41   Link #6971
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How about no
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Old 2021-05-21, 15:06   Link #6972
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better not, adding more girls increases the author's work and ichie is not so healthy, do you want what happened to us to the berserk fandom due to the death of kentaro miura due to pressure? Therefore, the answer is no.

Every day ichie makes a tweet that he is not in good health and that is worrying.
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Old 2021-05-22, 01:00   Link #6973
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lilith will lost her memories and I imagine she will tag very well with issei a lilith healed and no memories is like insta win for issei and she can be happy I mean poor woman
Nothing like the original Lucifer's sloppy seconds. But since she's the wife of the original Lucifer, she has to be the ultimate GILF. If all devil mothers are MILFs, imagine what a devil great-grandmother would be like.
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Old 2021-05-25, 19:06   Link #6974
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better not, adding more girls increases the author's work and ichie is not so healthy, do you want what happened to us to the berserk fandom due to the death of kentaro miura due to pressure? Therefore, the answer is no.

Every day ichie makes a tweet that he is not in good health and that is worrying.
This. We have enough characters and several girls who have shitty development even by harem series standards lol. I'd rather give more 'meat' to the established members and tie up the actual story. RIP Miura, that will never not hurt.
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Old 2021-05-27, 13:55   Link #6975
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Le Fay, Ingvild, Yasaka, Roygun, Bennia, and Kunou of the current confirmed girls are the ones left who need development. Short stories should also be used.
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