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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 28 | 27.45% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 29 | 28.43% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 26 | 25.49% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 8.82% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 2.94% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.96% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.98% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.98% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 2.94% | |
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2007-12-27, 01:32 | Link #121 | |
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Did you see when Lockon actually got serious and said "I wont lose to a single flag". You ever consider that maybe he wasn't even trying? Just like Setsuna wasn't even trying his hardest? It seems to me like Graham is going full throttle every time he goes up against a Gundam, but that's to be expected since he knows what they can do, and would be stupid not to. However same doesn't apply for the Gundam pilots, because to them it's just one Flag. Irregardless, I still hold Graham to same the level of someone as Zechs. I think he's an awesome character, great pilot, but severely overrated by most. |
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2007-12-27, 01:34 | Link #122 |
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@WD yes you can dream.
good episode character development for setsuna, GRAHAM, WANG, and ali is an interesting character though i doubt he'll live to see the end of the series. the series has interseting politics which is rare in mecha series now a days.
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2007-12-27, 01:56 | Link #123 | |
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Duh he caught him by surprise, but in that skirmish Lockon's passive, laid-back style (a clear trait he has shown) got bested pretty good...The mere fact that he had to calm himself down and even psych himself into STILL downgrading the FLAG based on his overconfidence in his Gundam tells the story... Additionally we've seen no real UNRANGED skill from Lockon all series, so yeah he was no match for Graham's close-quarters aggressive piloting skills...Hence the OMGBBQ kick to the face... And please get all your Graham hating out since I know it's on the tip of your tounge^^...Ratings be damned Graham IS Gundam... Thanx^^..I'm off to dreamland right now...So I'll watch the Graham fight one last time in hopes it'll invade my dream...Somehow I bet it's gonna turn into a Sanji 3some p0rn dream though *_*...
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2007-12-27, 03:12 | Link #125 | ||
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2007-12-27, 03:54 | Link #126 | |
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2007-12-27, 05:26 | Link #127 | |
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Unless some big corporation or countries are willing to push for the change, nothing would ever happen. In the world of Gundam 00, seems like UN (maybe Union and HRL) is forcing the issue, instead of using the "market" to decide. |
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2007-12-27, 12:05 | Link #130 | |
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2007-12-27, 14:49 | Link #131 | ||
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I have a stupid question? If Azadistan has oil why does it desperately need access to solar energy ASAP? Last time I checked embargos did not stop countries from using the materials in question themselves. Shouldn't they be in desperate need for money, not energy? Then again, the existence of oil deposits in the 24th century is quite fantastical to begin with.
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2007-12-27, 14:50 | Link #132 | |
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2007-12-27, 16:18 | Link #134 |
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There just isn't enough oil left. No matter what happens to the elevator, petroleum would never be able to return to its dominance in 00 again. That's the weakness of a non-renewable resource; the good times just can't last.
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2007-12-27, 18:36 | Link #135 |
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I'm new to the Gundam franchise, but from my perspective, Graham and Sergei have been far more sympathetic characters than the Gundam pilots. Lockon, being the most competent and un-crazy of the meisters, is likable, but I also find his battles sooooo... dull. It's not his fault that he ridiculously overmatches his opponents, but it's hard for me to really root for a guy who spends all his time sniping targets at long distances in near perfect safety. The fight with Graham actually made Lockon look better to me, because we finally got to see him in a melee episode.
Nevertheless, the vastly superior equipment of the Gundams I think casts doubts on their pilots' abilities (at present at least). Factoring in the Gundams' technological edge, Ali is clearly a better pilot than Setsuna, and Graham is I think a peer of both Setsuna and Lockon (too little information to say who's "better" because both fights ended prematurely--people can talk about surprise as much as they want, but Graham went toe-to-toe with suits far superior to his). And Sergei is the series' best tactician by far, whose plans were only sabotaged by yet another Gundam power-up when Tiera showed off that weird unit. He's also probably the best military leader; aggressive, but not careless with his men's lives, and a man who understands when it's best to realize that one should live to fight another day. Graham doesn't have Sergei's maturity, but even he has a loyalty and affection from his subordinates that neither Sumeragi nor Lockon commands. And while Graham has a real bloodlust to him, he was still disciplined enough to break off his fight for the sake of his larger mission. Tiera and Lockon are probably the only Gundam meisters who could be reliably counted on to do that. I know it adds to the drama of the series to have the meisters all have such severe "issues," but I for one like the characters who aren't so *crazy*, and who look like plausible members of a military organization. |
2007-12-27, 18:49 | Link #136 |
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The problem with that is CB's ideas aren't exactly what a normal person would agree with. To get people who would be willing to join up and pick a fight with the world means you're going to get people who aren't exactly sane. To agree with CB they generally have to of had something happen in their pasts to agree with such contradictory ideas. Hence why the sane pilots are with the main power militaries rather than CB, which isn't a normal military that can recruit openly.
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I'd like to think it wasn't slobber, but in-fact sweat dripping from his face as he incured a serious g-force type of deal when he brilliantly dodged Lockon's killshot...
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2007-12-28, 00:22 | Link #139 | ||
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Isn't this what I've been saying from the start? O_o That Graham's piloting prowess is why he bested Dynames in that little skirmish...Am I missing something? Quote:
As for scoring I'll go to the boxing card which reads Graham 10-9, round 1...Who knows what the next round will bring, but there's no doubt he gets the decision in that mini-spar...
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