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The 3rd databook was officially released in Japan on September 4th. This is a thread to talk about all the various stats, bios, names, and other character information that we will receive from the book. For many characters, this book will flesh out their background stories and finally answer a number of questions.
Kishimoto does have a hand in writing the databooks so they are considered official canon. The new data book is called 者の書 ~ The People's Scroll. And here is the cover page: The book will include data on 120 shinobi and 110 jutsus (which includes Kirin, Rasenshuriken, and whatever Kakashi's MS jutsu is ). The book is also 356 pages long, so do not expect any translations to come out any time until October at the earliest. _________________ Be aware that the stats are only a vague referential for the character, they aren't meant to be compared between different characters and they don't take things like Bloodline, CS, Bijuu, etc. into account. Differently speaking they are mostly worthless by themselves (and trying to add them up is completely so). They are only meant to give an idea of the characters's strong and weak points. Remember as well that in those book superlatives are the rules and not the exception. Last edited by Hunter; 2008-09-05 at 09:01. Reason: Add a few things from james0246 and Sasuke_Bateman |
2008-09-04, 15:54 | Link #2 | |
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Here is a few entry already translated, more will be added as they come.
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2008-09-04, 16:20 | Link #3 |
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The fact that the second Hokage's name is Tobimaru will undoubtedly spawn much discussion for the Tobi = Madara = Obito fanatacism.
Yugito track record is very impressive , and she is about 9 years older than I previously though. Kamui is a perfect title for Kakashi's MS ability, though I am guessing that Kishimoto is using it more as an X referrence, rather than an Ainu referrence . |
2008-09-04, 16:36 | Link #5 |
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More important than anything else, Pein is clearly written in romanji as Pain. It is official, his/their name is Pain not Pein. Damn...
Ma Toad is called Shima. Here is some of the Q&A, translated by tora-chan. Spoiler for Q and A:
And here is some of what we truly want : And, of course, here are some of the unknown jutsus (also from tora-chan) (I added the emphasis to specific jutsus that I was interested in): Spoiler for Jutsus:
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2008-09-04, 16:47 | Link #6 | |
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2008-09-04, 16:51 | Link #7 | |
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Although words circulated it was a mistranslation and that he only said he knew she had liked Sasuke for a long time. I guess the first translation was correct after all. |
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2008-09-04, 16:53 | Link #8 | |
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2008-09-04, 17:01 | Link #9 | ||
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Makes some amount of sense. Still, one expects those techniques to be a hellalot weaker now that Shukaku is gone, and this still doesn't answer whether he still has his Shield of Sand, which was controlled by Shukaku. |
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2008-09-04, 17:10 | Link #11 |
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Rinnegan lost an element. In the manga, it was 6 elements. (unless it was corrected in a Tankoubon)
I would like to see the exact sentence now. Is it impossible to master the 5 elements without the Rinnegan now ? What about Sarutobi who was supposed to master all the normal jutsus of the village ? Without the 5 elements, it's impossible. Also, I am afraid the Second Hokage will remain the fodder hokage forever. If his name was revealed here, I guess he won't have any part to play in the plot besides being suspicious of the Uchihas. |
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2008-09-04, 17:23 | Link #13 |
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In the picture showing the attributes of characters pre and post time skip, could someone tell me which ones are which, starting from the top and working clockwise, or something like that?
And by looking at the attributes, it seems Naruto is the least improved, big surprise there |
2008-09-04, 17:36 | Link #14 | |
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Starting from the top, going clockwise: -Ninjutsu -Taijutsu -Genjutsu -Intelligence -(Physical) Strength -Speed -Stamina -Seals (speed of hand-seals) Also, the charas in the lower left are: Neji, Shikamaru, Gaara, Rock Lee. Naruto: Nin 4.0 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 2.0 - Int 3.0 - Str 3.5 - Spe 3.5 - Sta 5.0 - Seal 1.5 Sasuke: Nin 5.0 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 4.0 - Int 3.5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Seal 4.0 Sakura: Nin 3.0 - Tai 3.0 - Gen 3.5 - Int 4.0 - Str 3.0 - Spe 3.0 - Sta 2.5 - Seal 4.0 --- Shikamaru: Nin 3.5 - Tai 2.0 - Gen 3.0 - Int 5.0 - Str 2.0 - Spe 2.5 - Sta 3.0 - Seal 3.0 Rock Lee: Nin 0.0 - Tai 5.0 - Gen 1.0 - Int 2.0 - Str 4.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Seal 1.0 Neji: Nin 4.0 - Tai 4.5 - Gen 2.0 - Int 3.0 - Str 2.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Seal 3.0 Gaara: Nin 5.0 - Tai 2.0 - Gen 3.5 - Int 4.0 - Str 2.5 - Spe 3.0 - Sta 5.0 - Seal 4.0 Last edited by james0246; 2008-09-04 at 17:52. |
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2008-09-04, 17:42 | Link #15 | |
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Edit: I missed your first line describing the numbers, it's strange that the numbers can't be compared to other characters. Ehh, oh well. |
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2008-09-04, 19:23 | Link #17 | |
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Take Sasuke for example (Sasuke: Nin 5.0 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 4.0 - Int 3.5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Seal 4.0). Sasuke highest stat is his ninjutsu, and as we have seen in his fights, he is primarily a ninjutsu user. After that, his highest abilities are his speed and his hand-seal abilities, which also make sense considering that he is a ninjutsu specialist, and then Genjutsu comes after all of these since Sasuke learned the techniques to fight his. After that come the other scores which have more or less stayed the same from Part I to Part II. The stats reflect how the person fights in a battle, not necessarily how they stack up against other characters. As to the intelligence rating, I assume that the various bloodline wielders will have a slightly lower (than expected) intelligence due to the fact that they have a bloodline tool that greatly helps them. Sasuke need not make truly creative descions due to the fact that his eyes will make the fights easier for him (this is a rough analysis of his bloodline, not to be taken too literally). Last edited by james0246; 2008-09-04 at 19:54. |
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2008-09-04, 19:32 | Link #18 | |
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2008-09-04, 19:37 | Link #19 |
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OMG! Madara is born the day before Christmas! Lucky bum...
@James since when did Sakura and Gaara become smarter than Neji and Sasuke, cos even though they have kekkei genkei it takes the skill and smarts to use it in battle, like give an idiot like Naruto he would never think of using the colour of chakra to tell where the bombs are. And Sakura is observant but even without using their kekkei genkei so are Sasuke and Neji. |
2008-09-04, 19:47 | Link #20 | |
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For instance, look at the Sasuke v Deidara battle. Without the Sharingan to see the chakra surrounding him, and inside of him, Sasuke would have been completely destroyed with relative ease. So, Sasuke did not use much actual intelligence in the battle, rather he used his bloodline ability and his natural affinity to win the fight (I fully admit that most battles in Naruto follow a similar route in which character's natural fighting abilities matter more than actual intelligence (case and point, the Naruto v Kakuzu fight). Many of Sasuke's battles follow a similar routine (especially his most recent battle ). Then again, Sakura has only had one fight in Part II, and she, more than anything, pounded shit until it didn't move anymore (Chiyo was the genius of that group). --- I really like this poll: Which shinobi would you like as your Older Brother?: 1) Itachi Uchiha - 158 votes 2) Deidara - 116 votes 3) Naruto Uzumaki - 93 votes 4) Neji Hyuuga - 78 votes 5) Sasuke Uchiha - 50 votes 6) Shikamaru Nara - 31 votes 7) Gaara - 30 votes 8) Kakashi Hatake - 29 votes 9) Sai - 24 votes 10) Sasori - 16 votes You got to love that Itachi is now the ideal older brother . Last edited by james0246; 2008-09-04 at 20:49. |
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