Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 24 [END] Discussion / Poll

[ashlay]

Well, everything is even more horribly off from the novels than the end of season 1, and we're still stuck with a cliffhanger. Unless they finally just decide to change the story entirely, viewers will be stuck with plenty of of stuff like the hecate arc in a season 3.

Yeah, this is the absolute last straw. I just can't forgive them for ruining such a good plot point utterly and completely for what turned out to be absolutely no reason.

J.C. staff, I very much hope you croak. >_>

[DX HBK]

Originally Posted by lua thien

@DX HBK.

Despite the fact that you started a pointless rant back in the Episode 15 thread of this series, I suddenly feel like I should lobby your expertise in providing the J.C. Staff some much better combat "choreography" for the third season of Shakugan no Shana.

Don't ask me why.

Thanks, I guess. But I have no wish to tread into their territory just for that.

[CapoExecutor]

Second season is now a dream as the dawn approaches.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep24:

As expected of the last episode, exciting and well done/animated.

Like I thought, Silver ended up coming alive to fight (kind of).

None of the Bal Masque are killed, though Silver is gone now.
Glad to see Fumina come back and do something, even if she pretty much still is gone. Though I wish Hecate died and she came back. Fumina~~~~ Wahh~~~!

Pretty sad to see Kazumi lose, since I preferred her over Shana (yeah, I said it!). Though if there is one saving thought (to Kazumi fans), it's that Shana's "win" is merely "hinted" and that there isn't actually any physical proof. And in anime, you know what that means.

Anyways, love the episode, and it was a good series.

Time to wait for the favorite characters thread and final impressions.
Please have Fumina and Hecate as separate characters in the favorite characters thread.

[Kristen]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep24:

As expected of the last episode, exciting and well done/animated.

Like I thought, Silver ended up coming alive to fight (kind of).

None of the Bal Masque are killed, though Silver is gone now.
Glad to see Fumina come back and do something, even if she pretty much still is gone. Though I wish Hecate died and she came back. Fumina~~~~ Wahh~~~!

Pretty sad to see Kazumi lose, since I preferred her over Shana (yeah, I said it!). Though if there is one saving thought (to Kazumi fans), it's that Shana's "win" is merely "hinted" and that there isn't actually any physical proof. And in anime, you know what that means.

Anyways, love the episode, and it was a good series.

Time to wait for the favorite characters thread and final impressions.
Please have Fumina and Hecate as separate characters in the favorite characters thread.

A Kazumi lover? There's another one?

*Me hugs Serenade Beta*

[minhtam1638]

We need a poll - Shana vs. Kazumi... wait... that's a bad idea.

[Deathkillz]

Spoiler:

I guess as an action lover I absolutely loved this episode. But the story on the other hand remains cheesy and weak. I mean dam what a lousy lose for the silver knight. So all that set up for Hecate was so that she can slip up at the list, most important minute? Bleh.

The fight was really good for me, and it did keep me entertained, though it was over the top pretty much. I do question some illogical stuff though, like how margery was able to heal so fast

The ending was open ended ready for season 3 (oh god >_<).

Well I don't like either Shana or Kazumi so Yuji's choice didn't affect me at all

[Whitemoon648]

Ok episode. In terms of action, well previous episodes were alot better. Ending was a disapointment. and We didnt even get to ,

Spoiler for eps 24:

See pheles .

But yeah, Overal an Ok episode.

And about yuji

Spoiler for episode 24:

He got so lucky that hecate spared him.

And Sydony Seemed to be,

Spoiler for 24:

Kind of angry at hecate, which i thought was interesting

And how did Yuji's

Spoiler for 24:

Blast wave was able to deflect that huge Blast wave silver used ???

and the funniest moment of the episode was when Domino

Spoiler for 24:

Pressed that button before Prof was finished talking. It even Made sydony laugh :hehe"

A question from Novel readers, Was the anime ending an original ending? Or followed the novel ( more or less?) .

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Whitemoon648

A question from Novel readers, Was the anime ending an original ending? Or followed the novel ( more or less?) .

It's been anime-original since episode 22, so the ending was also anime-original.

[Dragon-Emperor]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep24:

As expected of the last episode, exciting and well done/animated.

Like I thought, Silver ended up coming alive to fight (kind of).

None of the Bal Masque are killed, though Silver is gone now.
Glad to see Fumina come back and do something, even if she pretty much still is gone. Though I wish Hecate died and she came back. Fumina~~~~ Wahh~~~!

Pretty sad to see Kazumi lose, since I preferred her over Shana (yeah, I said it!). Though if there is one saving thought (to Kazumi fans), it's that Shana's "win" is merely "hinted" and that there isn't actually any physical proof. And in anime, you know what that means.

Anyways, love the episode, and it was a good series.

Time to wait for the favorite characters thread and final impressions.
Please have Fumina and Hecate as separate characters in the favorite characters thread.

Spoiler for Response:

Silver isn't 'gone' I think. Sure it came to the point where he could no longer fight due to the RM being removed and after being attacked, but even after the series of attacks and Shana+Yuujis victory, it can be seen that Silver is still intact lying face down. He could always be brought back and hooked up in the professors lab again in Season 3 since he wasn't vaporized or anything. Just my opinion. Maybe that's what you implied to begin though

[Devard]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

It's been anime-original since episode 22, so the ending was also anime-original.

To be precise, the last bit of the 22nd episode was original material. The two girls really did send out letters to Yuji to end the battle in the novels.

[The Real Nemo]

Originally Posted by ashlay

Well, everything is even more horribly off from the novels than the end of season 1, and we're still stuck with a cliffhanger. Unless they finally just decide to change the story entirely, viewers will be stuck with plenty of of stuff like the hecate arc in a season 3.

Yeah, this is the absolute last straw. I just can't forgive them for ruining such a good plot point utterly and completely for what turned out to be absolutely no reason.

J.C. staff, I very much hope you croak. >_>

Hecate's character development has always been one of the things I've enjoyed most about the Shana anime, so personally I'd be very interested to see how they might tie that in with future novel events in a third season...

[nines]

so their will be no shakugan no shana III?

[Dragon-Emperor]

Originally Posted by nines

so their will be no shakugan no shana III?

There is certainly room for anSnS3 as this story has room to move forward. Bad guys to fight, relationships to advance, characters to develop, questions to be answered and possssssssible book material to be covered; however there has been no official announcement for SnS3 yet.

[tripperazn]

I got a serious case of deja vu from season one's finale. More ShanaxYuji, more cheesy, ambiguous, and open-ended endings. As usual, everything merely returns to the status quo, ready for JC Staff to take a third season, I guess we'll see if they actually do.

I liked the fact that they used "sense" for ending credits though, probably the best new song from Kawada on her album.

[Owaranai Destiny]

I haven't watched the episode yet, but judging from the screenshots, I'd say it's probably a very good action episode, but might fare poorly as an ending to everything.

It does look obvious that J.C's leaving it open for a possible third season and being as much of an optimist as I possibly can, I hope they can learn from the mistakes they committed in Season 2 if they are planning a continuation. Omni from Random Curiosity summed it up pretty well; That there was pretty interesting stuff, but wasn't made full use of and had poor pacing.

[teelotes]

Originally Posted by tripperazn

I got a serious case of deja vu from season one's finale. More ShanaxYuji, more cheesy, ambiguous, and open-ended endings. As usual, everything merely returns to the status quo, ready for JC Staff to take a third season, I guess we'll see if they actually do.

I liked the fact that they used "sense" for ending credits though, probably the best new song from Kawada on her album.

Yuji didn't have the ability to fight in Season 1. As far as I remember:

Spoiler for For Season 1, just in case:

He just accompanied Shana as she deployed Tenpa Jousai.

This time we get to see some significant teamwork between the two.

Spoiler for Yuji x Shana:

I like the scene where both the Blutsauger and the Nietono no Shana land on top of each other and lie together.

[Deathscyther]

Great episode, but a decent ending to a decent season.

I liked the battles. They were animated well and they seemed intense. The music played throughout the episode was good as well, especially the ending song.

I'm happy with the Yuji x Shana moments in the giant tomogara. They worked together and showed trust in each other. This is how I want them to be.

Konoe is still alive in Hecate and she spared Yuji several times throughout the last 2 episodes. I'm a bit upset how they used the Silver, but I guess that there was no avoiding it anymore.

The ending felt rushed though. Some things aren't cleared up at all. How did Wilhelmina fare after Shana went inside the giant? Is the silver still alive? Margery's reaction to yuji x shana fighting/defeating the silver? This episode should have had two episodes to make it so much better.

It is hinted that he chooses Shana in the end, but I have my doubts. The final scene where you see Yuji's footprints ending in the snow where it gets very dark seems foreboding and combine that with what he's saying...

Cliffhanger ending. I smell a third season coming.

[Same_Shark]

Originally Posted by tripperazn

I liked the fact that they used "sense" for ending credits though, probably the best new song from Kawada on her album.

Naw! That's TRILL! lol j/k I can see why they used it. It's like JOINT, but injected with the feeling of hope.

[FiREwing]

Why are almost all Mami Kawada's songs all named with english words that seem cool?._.

I don't think you should hate on JCSTAFF and place it in the same league as some other bad studio with even worse reps such as GONZO or DEEN...They made the safe choice by avoiding using novel material. I would have cried if it ended cliffhanger than the open ending we got.