2010-06-10, 10:36 | Link #2241 | |
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They changed some of of the endings so that every episode features a different version of "Fly Me to the Moon," but other than that, it's simply remastered, not altered. The liner notes are good, too. If you're NOT referring to the Platinum Edition, then...I look pretty silly, don't I? |
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2010-06-10, 11:23 | Link #2243 | |
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I read that it includes the director cut's of the final few episodes with scenes from Death too. My real concern are the subtitles. I prefer subs over dubs and am wondering if they are good subtitles or dubtitles and all.
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2010-06-10, 11:33 | Link #2244 | ||
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But yeah, on Platinum, they're all different, even if the differences are often minor. Quote:
And yeah, the last DVDs have both the Producer's cut and the on-air versions of episodes 21-24. Also, from the Japanese end, some background chatter has been added to help take advantage of the 5.1 sound...stuff that was in the scripts originally, but cut from the TV broadcast because, in stereo, it cluttered up the dialogue too much. There's also a bunch of absolutely worthless bonus features...I'm not sure which is more cringe-inducing, the multi-part interview with an Eva "expert," or Tiffany Grant showing off all her Asuka merchandise... |
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2010-06-10, 21:33 | Link #2245 |
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15 years ago I watched Shin Seiki Evangelion with a tiny low-res picture. I couldn't see much because of the poor picture and because half the action was in the dark and/or in shadow. It was a great show anyway that broke a lot of rules and got a lot of people excited. I bought matching Rei and Asuka swimsuit statues.
A few years ago there was talk of new activity, both a remake of the show as a series of movies, and a live-action movie. The talk went on and on until I tuned it out. Recently I thought I'd check back in. I see the live-action is still talk but half the remake movies are done, albeit years late. So I've now watched the 1st two of these. My impressions so far:
The suits always win in the end, and the aging director behaves himself if he wants a nestegg for his imminent retirement. P.S. I understand the manga has been running continuously for 15 years. What on earth kind of story material have they been using all this time? Are they up to fighting the 898th Disciple (Angel) by now?
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2010-06-11, 01:47 | Link #2246 |
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Can't seem to find a You Can (Not) Advance thread and the search function directs me here so here goes:
I just watched the You Can (Not) Advance movie a week or so ago via fansubs and I have to say that I was floored from all the epicness. Can't wait for the next movie which will be out in around 2 years time on fansubs. Yeah. It sucks not to understand the moonspeak, but.. oh well. Then there's the 4th movie (according to wiki). Ugh. I'd be old when that time comes. |
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Plus, no one ever said the Angel's names (except Kaworu) anyway so really it doesn't matter. Quote:
This is Anno's project, through and through. It's not even Gainax making this, it's his personal company Studio Khara. Quote:
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2010-06-11, 07:56 | Link #2248 | |
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“The visual work called Evangelion is composed of a variety of desires. The desire to put our own honest feelings on film. The desire to convey to as many people as possible the fundamental appeal of touching primitive emotions and how versatile the medium of animation is in it’s expression and images that it is capable of realizing. The desire to take the exhausted animation of Japan and carry it into the future. The desire to shatter the spreading sense of helplessness. The desire to carry on the strength of spirit that lives on in the real world. The desire to realize these desires once again.” EDIT: Surprise, surprise, Funimation's website just went down. The quote above was taken verbatim from the site though.
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2010-06-11, 12:59 | Link #2249 | |
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2010-06-11, 14:25 | Link #2250 | |
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And there is a lot of stupid repetition. Shinji should only run away from the Eva once.
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2010-06-11, 15:08 | Link #2252 |
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Well the animation industry currently is very stagnant. But making Evangelion more like current animes (Making Rei moe, making Asuka a typical tsundere, making Shinji GAR, etc.) is not serving the purpose of revitalizing the industry once more.
He is perpetuating the same flaws of current animation today. That is partly why I am so upset about Rebuild in general.
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2010-06-11, 15:30 | Link #2253 | ||
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...I really have to watch the original series again, lol.
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2010-06-11, 18:35 | Link #2255 | |
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I'll also point out that Anno goes on to say that people (Japanese I assume hes talking about) seem to have gotten too depressed in their outlook so rebuild is meant to counter that just a bit. Anno basically says Eva is a story about people going against impossible odds on top of having their own emotional problems but in the end they move forward regardless. That was the original intent of Eva and rebuild is just an attempt to make that message more clear because Anno apparently thinks such a message is needed nowadays.
As for revitalization of the anime industry, Anno seems to mean more the technical aspects of animation. As in they want to polish up the old Eva to give the industry a new standard to strive for. And the Animation is breathtaking in Rebuild. I'll give them that. Theres concern expressed about the lack of growth in anime's target audience so another goal of rebuild is to make Eva's story easier to understand and more clear. Which is an understandable goal consider I know many people simply dismiss Eva as a convoluted story which is a real shame. Also: Quote:
The message from Anno is dated Sept. 26, 2006 so its his declaration of intent for rebuild before 1.0 came out. Last edited by bigdeath; 2010-06-11 at 18:54. |
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2010-06-11, 18:39 | Link #2256 |
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Well let's consider Evangelion as a whole.
It's memorable because it took the tropes of the time and twisted it. After all, it did start out as a "monster of the week" show with a hint of its more memorable elements. But you would have never known where it'd go just from the first half. So it's not too unreasonable the new Eva would delve into the cliches of right now and find something to do with them. Certainly Eva TV did not go off into the deep end until a bit more than halfway through. This is just coming from someone who had a moderate opinion of Rebuild and isn't impressed (Asuka Shikinami= imposter cosplayer! ). But I think it could definitely take that kind of direction. I obviously have boiled up crackpot theories that have no basis, but I'll wait til we see the rest to express them.
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2010-06-11, 18:53 | Link #2257 | |
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No no, you have to express your crackpot theories now! Its a big part of the fun we have until the final movie comes out.
Heres an Asuka fan who liked Rebuild's version of her: http://www.otaku2.com/articleView.php?item=427 Quote:
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2010-06-11, 21:26 | Link #2258 | ||
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Usual tsundere way? Superficially one could label Asuka as a tsundere, but her feelings are much more complicated than that. What he describes in Asuka, is a completely different character. The reason she confronted Rei in the original series has NOTHING to do with what SHE perceives as a rival love interest in Rei. It all goes back to what she hates about dolls and her mother. Her reason for fighting, to be recognized... To not diminish. To want to live. That leads me to question this Asuka's motives because so far they are not really all that clear. We have no idea why exactly she was always alone or supposedly socially awkward. In the end, she comes off as little more than an angsty teenager like the main character from Twilgiht (). And the whole thing about Asuka being more open? This is another aspect of her character being destroyed. The old Asuka had way too much pride to ever talk about her problems with others, or find comfort in others, especially Shinji. The way she talks to Shinji about calling him an idiot is almost trivial. I truly felt like I was watching a stupid tsundere in a harem show. Now the whole plot device with Asuka getting into the suit was solely there to flesh out Mari, my dear Mary Sue character. While she did get some "development," we are still not clear on what troubles her. We don't understand anything about her character. She isn't even really that bitchy anymore, because her actions do little to piss me off like they did in the original. OKAY I need to stop. I'm going to mindlessly rant on forever at this rate. Quote:
Well if you want more explanation on the matter on me, I've ranted plenty earlier in this thread.
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2010-06-11, 22:05 | Link #2259 |
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Lol, I thought you might "enjoy" that Reckoner. So it seems not all Asuka fans think the same. Perhaps your can add "one of the last true asuka fans" to your signature.
J/k, sorry, I couldn't resist that cheap shot. I, on the other hand, love Mari so clearly I'm a heretic. She certainly hotter than the 2 original girls. Last edited by bigdeath; 2010-06-11 at 22:19. |
2010-06-11, 23:05 | Link #2260 |
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Ahaha, Mari. The name aside (boy did that ruin 15 years of Western EVA Fanfic tradition), a lot of us already mentioned how Mary Sue she ain't (you better update your definition young'un). Whatever problems you have with her stem from your intense love for the TV series, which will inevitably generate nerd rage from you whenever someone mentions their liking for the re-imagining that is Rebuild. It's getting cyclical already.
I'm not bothered in Mari's case, as it's just a case of perceptive dissonance -- she wasn't in the TV series, but she's in the movie that people perceive as a parallel adaptation (which should be obvious to all by now that it isn't). It's an irrational dislike at best, but I should have expected it, as the fandom at large can be irrational. I guess you're just far too young to have been around (or pretty close) to Ground Zero in the Western fandom when news of Koutetsu no Shoujo came out... Spoiler for Stuff:
Note, this was something that was 100% pure GAINAX, and had most of the TV series staff on board to make sure it stuck closely to the TV series in terms of composition.
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