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I personally do not like Communism very much. But, being a Hong Konger and indeed a Chinese, i like my country. It's actually sad to see Taiwan rejecting us so many times. I was born in HK before 1997 so i know how that feels......if China take over. I believe Taiwan and China need to communicate more on this and perhaps, one day we can be reunited, one way or the other. And i don't like resorting to forces.
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2009-10-01, 06:55 | Link #22 |
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They had a huge military parade showing off their "indigenous military hardware". All I see are reversed engineered BMPs and SAM systems mounted on trucks. While such a display presents a really credible military force, how much of that is REALLY indigenous?
China has a history of plagarism on almost everything, even foreign software (they made it a point that it is compulsory to share corporate technology, even secret ones) with China so as to bolster their technological capability, and combined with their manufacturing capacity, create a trade monopoly in the computer world. Hopefully by today, they would have realise that they are treading on the initial steps of their greedy ancestors that brought 5000 years of ancient history to near destruction.
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2009-10-01, 11:13 | Link #23 |
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Well, at least they can be bothered to copy the technology correctly today. Back in the bad old days of the 19th century, they either reject technology completely or have half-baked ideas on how to do it.
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2009-10-02, 14:58 | Link #31 |
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I suggest people learn the difference between discussing the anniversary day of a nation and using the thread to disrupt said discussion because of cultural disagreement.
If you want to discuss China in a manner unrelated to their day of anniversary, I'm sure we've got a thread around here for that. Keep it civil.
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2009-10-02, 19:59 | Link #33 |
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Speaking of Taiwan, it won't be long until Double Ten Day - which marks the beginning of the Wuchang Uprising of 1911.
The event, part of the Xinhai Revolution which swept away the Qing Dynasty and led to the advent of republicanism in China (ironically, at a time when Taiwan itself was under Japanese rule) might be worth noting, on both sides of the Straits.
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Anyway, what do you guys think about those tanks at the parade? When do you think America, India, Japan and almost every developed country take out their " China threat theory" and throw it at China??? Actually I would like to make a point here. China does not do invasions. We don't like wars, and we only fight when somebody attacks us. (just like when the Indians occupied some of our border land. We fought, won but retreated 20 km back the front line to signal that we do no wish to continue fighting) |
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2009-10-02, 22:32 | Link #35 |
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I think the parade was actually kinda ridiculous. I heard that practically all of Beijing was shut down by security, which numbered more than the actual viewers of the parade. Also I think it was kinda funny that they gave their troops all-red uniforms and painted the tanks and missile launchers blue (well blue was interesting but the red was just stupid).
It's annoying how people always talk about how the Chinese just copy other people's (russia's) military equipment. the USSR and USA already had the best stuff by the middle of the Cold War, so there was no point in wasting money to make original designs. Even the Europeans, who do design most of their own units, have tanks and planes that look very similar to American counterparts. Being close to Russia, it's only natural that Chinese forces take after the Russians. |
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Yes. Russia is a good source of ideas, and it is natural to seek help from less hostile countries (better than USA for a start) |
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Frankly, it seems that some Chinese people go around telling other Asian people that "you are part of China." Seriously, you should stop this - it's disrespectful to non-Chinese. (I experienced it myself; whenever I heard that from some Chinese people, I told them that they had misguided History knowledge). Second: Ask the Taiwanese, who would feel humiliated when someone mistakes them for Chinese or says that Taiwan "is part of" China. Quote:
The answer is a loud and clear NO. Taiwan has never been legally transferred to Chinese sovereignty following World War II. This is an incontrovertable historical fact. These countries have: 1- Different travel visas. 2- Different Passports 3- The Olympics: 2 countries... 2 different names 4- Both countries have their own federal capitals. 5- National Sovereignty: Chinese planes, ships or submarines cannot come into Taiwan's waters or airspace without permission. 6- Different currencies. 7- Last but not least: The history. In the past, many people fled to Taiwan to escape the communist rule. Nowadays, the Taiwanese enjoy the same freedom found in western countries like Canada, the USA or Australia. People can debate policies, vote, protest and write to newspapers or online to express their views even about the most controversial issues. The Chinese people live in a repressed society where even the most basic human rights are deprived. I'm not echoing mainstream western media here: people in China can't get access to popular sites like Facebook, Youtube, American news websites, and can't speak a word about Tiananmen Square massacre. Quote:
It's great that you find something to relate to the Taiwanese, but the resolution is NOT to try to take over the other by military or mental manipulation but acknowledge and respect each other's sovereignty as a nation. PS: if you want more discussion on this, take it to Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...449&topic=4151
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Each time you put the name China on something in the West there is a climate of paranoia :heh I don't know why someone would hijacked this thread and I can clearly say to you that China has not its eyes set on Animesuki AT ALL Oh and excuse me for my english it's been a long time since I used it. |
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Yes. There are many hostile view towards China, most are quite unfounded. I guess it takes time. |
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2009-10-04, 12:50 | Link #40 |
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There is a IS a political difference between the mainland and Taiwan, but Taiwan as a true nation-state does not exist, since the people there almost all Chinese. That's why they're called the Republic of CHINA, not Taiwan.
The reason why other Asians reject Mainland China is obvious: The CCP controls it, and nobody wants to have anything to do with a totalitarian regime that has no hesitation to murder and imprison people in gulags just because of what they believe or say. However many Chinese don't get this and think that everyone is being anti-China, when the real, political problem is the CCP. This is because the CCP presents itself as "china" while in fact it cannot truly represent it. In fact, I have not heard much anti-China sentiment in the USA; and while I feel that most Americans do not understand China or its history and culture, they definitely are not against China; in fact, most Americans acknowledge that China supports our economy and allows us to buy inexpensive products. We surely do not see China the way we saw the USSR. I don't get what is going on about all this "anti-China" bullcrap; whenever anyone even mentions human rights, someone will start raving about how you're being "anti-China." It's ridiculous. |
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