To Aru Majutsu no Index LN - New Testament Volume 21 Discussion / Poll

[Marina2]

Spoiler for Takitsubo's condition:

Hmm......Is Kamachi hinting something with Rikou's condition in this volume? I heard someone say she feels pretty bad because her ability react strongly (sensitive) toward the magic.

OT22 revealed her full potential as Lv5. What will happen in NT22?

[shmaster]

I am sure everyone is aware of this by now, but I cannot stress this enough.

The demon lies.
I mean, THE DEMON LIES!

And I never could never have guessed that's what he was lying about even I know the DEMON LIES!

There is nothing trustworthy from what's coming out of Coronzo's mouth!
I am not even sure his whole "hahaha I have lied to Aleister" is truth or not!

Either way, pitiful Aleister, falling for the demon's lie back on vol.19.
Aleister willingly deviate from his "plan" to attack England is exactly what the demon wants.
When Aleister could have won if he stick to his "plan".

[Hiss13]

Really though, it's quite fitting that Bennett eventually went on to become Heaven Canceller. And in the end, the two people who Aleister could continue his few friends are once again supporting him despite how often he turned his back on them. It's surprisingly poignant and speaks nicely to to the depths of their relationships with the human.

Oddly enough, I didn't know New Light was meant to be an offshoot of the Golden considering it was simply a Cabal Reserve back when it was introduced in the British Halloween Arc.

[WiliamZ0]

Prologue is out, It's nice for Noukan to be back. And surprising me the doctor is a magician... F*** Me

[shmaster]

Kamachi! Why Kamachi!? Why are you doing this to me?
Why am I desiring for a Touma/Aleister/Accelerator love triangle!?
Why is this happening!?

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I know that many here do not like my negative comments about the series, but I have a doubt, has the magic already been recognized by the world? Or Characters like Mugino, Rikuo, Misaki and Mikoto already discovered about it and the magical organizations? And finally, is Mikoto deeply involved in the arc or is she just going to save Touma without knowing anything?

If anyone can respond, thank you.

[OH&S]

Kihara Noukan revived and Heaven Canceller == Alan Bennett in the space before the prologue?

Christ Kamachi!! js06 also gave his seal of approval for this volume so just what is in store for the rest of the volume!?

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by shmaster

I am sure everyone is aware of this by now, but I cannot stress this enough.

The demon lies.
I mean, THE DEMON LIES!

And I never could never have guessed that's what he was lying about even I know the DEMON LIES!

There is nothing trustworthy from what's coming out of Coronzo's mouth!
I am not even sure his whole "hahaha I have lied to Aleister" is truth or not!

Either way, pitiful Aleister, falling for the demon's lie back on vol.19.
Aleister willingly deviate from his "plan" to attack England is exactly what the demon wants.
When Aleister could have won if he stick to his "plan".

I feel for Aleister, especially after the mindbending deception Coronzon pulled on him, but frankly, the less Aleister plans stuff, the better.

Originally Posted by shmaster

Kamachi! Why Kamachi!? Why are you doing this to me?
Why am I desiring for a Touma/Aleister/Accelerator love triangle OT3!?
Why is this happening!?

There, I fixed that for you.

[KiharaRonin]

Originally Posted by LG-MAX 2.o

I know that many here do not like my negative comments about the series, but I have a doubt, has the magic already been recognized by the world? Or Characters like Mugino, Rikuo, Misaki and Mikoto already discovered about it and the magical organizations? And finally, is Mikoto deeply involved in the arc or is she just going to save Touma without knowing anything?

If anyone can respond, thank you.

Misaka and Misaki are starting to find out, Rikou is in close proximity to it and may be being effected by it, Mikoto is heavily involved.

While people like the President know it and the possibility of another supernatural law is something people acknowledge as plausible, the world as a whole hasn't recognized magic due to clever cover ups or excuses by high powers, high-ranking people, or organizations such as the 3 churches.

[shmaster]

Oh so Heaven Canceller actually is *** *****?

Wait, I smell something fishy. Does Aleister have some alternate plan with Accelerator?
Aleister's behavior is way too nice to be believed.
Accelerator also happens to have another level up.
Perhaps Aleister is still working on completing the lv.6?

[Gundam Meister]

A question to everyone do you all think that Coronzon has other plans for Index and that her being a Grimoire library is just what Coronzon want everyone to think she is

[Ladiusman]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Oh so Heaven Canceller actually is *** *****?

Sooo...is Heaven Canceller really who he says he is in the prologue?

[shmaster]

Hamazura's segment felt like the weakest portion of the book.
It is as if Kamachi noticed he almost is serving no purpose other than being a Taxi driver, so he quickly tag Diane onto him to give him something to do.
Thus Hamazura's new motive for the next volume felt extremely tagged on.

Originally Posted by Ladiusman

Sooo...is Heaven Canceller really who he says he is in the prologue?

To avoid too much spoiler.
I'll just say I don't know what to believe any more.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Hamazura's segment felt like the weakest portion of the book.
It is as if Kamachi noticed he almost is serving no purpose other than being a Taxi driver, so he quickly tag Diane onto him to give him something to do.
Thus Hamazura's new motive for the next volume felt extremely tagged on.

Unlike Touma and Accel, Hamazura is the type that truly shines when he's fighting for a person he has a direct personal motive to fight for.

The Parameter List thing just doesn't have that bite, especially since AC is no more.

[Chosen_Hero]

Hamazura isn't a "hero" like Touma or Accelerator, he quite literally gave up on the idea back during the Agitate Halation experiment after seeing Touma fight Renza. Don't expect Hamazura to do anything badass unless he is trying to protect someone from ITEM.

Hamazura is quite literally the designated babysitter/driver.

[shmaster]

Re-reading the passage where Aleister choose to evoke the power of **** **************.
It ends again with the passage stating the childhood has ended.
And the whole paragraph, although depends on interpretation, can mean that Aleister's whole Horusian practice is no more than throwing a kid's tantrum at the ********* *** that he refuse to believe. In other words, his establishment of Thelema faith is not because Aleister tries to move onto a better path, but rather to express his contempt.

Could this be why Aleister had not attend the rank of Magis Templis? Because he did not practice the Horusian doctrine to improve himself as a person but only to attack others?

And his childhood finally ended when he finally look pass his own emotion and do what has to be done and use what he has to be used, even if that involves the very thing he fathoms so much?
Will he finally attain enlightenment now he finally move onward from his false confinement to Hoursian belief?

[Marina2]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Hamazura's segment felt like the weakest portion of the book.
It is as if Kamachi noticed he almost is serving no purpose other than being a Taxi driver, so he quickly tag Diane onto him to give him something to do.
Thus Hamazura's new motive for the next volume felt extremely tagged on.

I actually like Hamazura and ITEM segment in every book they appear. It is good to see story from the real normal boy perspective and how he interacts with strange, powerful people.

[KiharaRonin]

People just don't seem to get it. The point of Hamazura's role last time was that he isn't the type to leave innocent people to die. Without the Parameter List, those angry at him for his past actions (who still live even after AC) have no reason to leave him and ITEM be. In the process of trying to reunite with Aleis-tan so he can win ITEM some protection, he found the nuns whom Mirates left to die and could not abandon them. He took a small detour to his goal, but he was sticking to his character and got the nuns to a place of safety and importance. Will people realize this and stop saying he was pointless? Of course not! But I'm just pointing it out for those who may anyway.

[Inept Forum User]

I saw a little something suggesting that one of the suspected possibilities for the 'trick' was the right one. Just to be sure, to those who've read the whole thing:

Spoiler for The Trick:

The Golden Dawn here were Tarot/Grimoire-based reconstructions, just like how Mina Mathers was reproduced by the Reading Thoth 78, weren't they?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by Inept Forum User

I saw a little something suggesting that one of the suspected possibilities for the 'trick' was the right one. Just to be sure, to those who've read the whole thing:

Spoiler for The Trick:

The Golden Dawn here were Tarot-based reconstructions, just like how Mina Mathers was reproduced by the Reading Thoth 78, weren't they?

It is actually a *******.
That is why Aleister lost at first and Accelerator's power not working. He didn't notice they aren't ***** and didn't take the necessary steps to counter them.