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Old 2020-08-17, 04:01   Link #81
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But that's what her character wants. Saying she doesn't need to do it is like saying that Superman doesn't need to save people in need in front of him. Sure, the writer can write it that way but it won't be true to the character. Proving that she can be independent & get things done to her mom has always been Yukino's goal. Sooner or later, Yukino will have to confront her mother in a situation like this. And sooner or later, 8-man also have to decide how to act his feelings towards Yukino even if she "reject him" in a way. So, this prom is actually a good event to develop their characters.
The point with Yukino is that she had almost no character development at all. She opened up to people a bit, yeah, but that's about it.
Other than that, you might as well remove her from the story and still get a decent result with just Iroha and Yui being around.
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Old 2020-08-17, 05:22   Link #82
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The point with Yukino is that she had almost no character development at all. She opened up to people a bit, yeah, but that's about it.
Other than that, you might as well remove her from the story and still get a decent result with just Iroha and Yui being around.
Eh, If you rewatch Yukino from the early episodes of Oregairu and compare it to this one, you can see that she has come a long way. Character development doesn't have to be drasticly different from where the character started. It can be little but keep it going, constant & on-point, not just for the sake of it (which is the opposite of anime like Ranma/Inuyasha. Those shows need faster & more drastic development).
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Old 2020-08-17, 21:43   Link #83
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I just saw how horribly my attention must have drifted away from the actual second paragraph... it's of course "Funnily enough, picking Yukino is pretty much the same as his jokes about marring Shizuka in the first season, should she take care of him financially."
it was rather clear early on that Yui's half hearted attempts guaranteed an Yukinon ending.

my memory is a bit too hazy to remember that Shizuka joke but that very much a thing he'd say.
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Old 2020-08-18, 04:36   Link #84
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BD/DVD Vol.1 jacket cover by illustrator Ponkan8

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Old 2020-08-20, 16:07   Link #85
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This episode was pretty funny and mostly drama-free, which makes it one of the best episode of the season. Hachiman was in top shape. This episode made me realize it's his interactions with Yukino and Yui that have become dull (particularly Yukino), with anyone else he's fun.
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Old 2020-08-20, 20:20   Link #86
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So rap battle, yep I want expecting that. That said Yui is best girl
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Old 2020-08-20, 21:10   Link #87
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Well it see Hachiman start a raping out of nowhere but that other guy really dropped some mad rhymes
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Old 2020-08-20, 22:04   Link #88
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Meme hands man delivered on the fun I was expecting. This was easily the most fun episode of the season.

Hachiman described Iroha to a T when he was talking to the gaming club.
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Old 2020-08-20, 23:23   Link #89
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Old 2020-08-21, 01:23   Link #90
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This episode was pretty funny and mostly drama-free, which makes it one of the best episode of the season. Hachiman was in top shape. This episode made me realize it's his interactions with Yukino and Yui that have become dull (particularly Yukino), with anyone else he's fun.
I think that says something more about Hachiman than it does about Yukino and Yui.

It's clear that his head is more clear when the problem is not about himself or his own circle.

And what happened to Yukino and Yui between now and the first season? They grew close enough that they're now a part of him.
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Old 2020-08-21, 07:21   Link #91
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The rap battle was awesome. They should do a cross over with Kaguya so they can know the terror that is President Shirogane.
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Old 2020-08-22, 10:14   Link #92
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The rap-battle is indeed awesome but I'm still somewhat puzzled whether it's supposed to really happen or just symbolic of 8-man's argument with Handwave-man . But damn this episode is enjoyable.

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This episode was pretty funny and mostly drama-free, which makes it one of the best episode of the season. Hachiman was in top shape.
Oregairu has always been a dramatic show. The premise alone promise you a drama whenever 8-man have to solve a case .

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This episode made me realize it's his interactions with Yukino and Yui that have become dull (particularly Yukino), with anyone else he's fun.
It's actually the opposite for me. 8-man's interaction with Yuki is the most interesting because just from listening on their tone of voice (especially Yukino's), you can feel the most warmth & fun coming from Yukinon when talking to 8-man on that bench scene compared to their previous idle talks. The funny topic of their convo is the icing on the cake.

Meanwhile, 8-man interaction with others are always fun. It's part of the premise & part of his character. Speaking of others, this episode sure have cemented how much the Ex-girl & Handwave-man have become a pair of clowns on discussion table, almost on the level of Jesse & James .
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Old 2020-08-23, 16:09   Link #93
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Honestly... When I saw Yui making a video of the rap battle, the first thing that occured to me was that her "move" would be blackmailing Hachiman into the relationship.

In any event, the moment Yui took her phone out, I could see Hachiman rue it later.
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Old 2020-08-25, 19:10   Link #94
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The rap battle was awesome. They should do a cross over with Kaguya so they can know the terror that is President Shirogane.
Zeroxseed's crossover between Kaguya-sama and Oregairu is top notch as an example.
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Old 2020-08-27, 17:12   Link #95
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Haruno really oversold her mother. Haruno herself is a lot harder to deal with, her mother's personality is actually closer to Yukino's, I'd say. Hachiman said he never wanted to see her again (tough luck), but she left a pretty good impression on me. It was never personal for her, she just did it on behalf of the other parents. She's actually really reasonable.
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Old 2020-08-27, 18:02   Link #96
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Don't forget that Hachiman had to guilt trip her. If it wasn't for that incident, it is very likely Hachiman would have had way more trouble to parley with her regarding the prom.
I would say she is fairly harder to deal with than Haruno on even footing, whereas the latter actually listen at times even if she has her usual sarcastic/passive agressive stance. Pretty much the reason why Hachiman immediately stated he'd rather not meet their mom ever again, which is much more clear cut compared to his first interactions with Haruno.
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Old 2020-08-27, 18:44   Link #97
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We are going to get more Yui rejection aren't we? I am not surprised at this rate.
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Old 2020-08-27, 20:13   Link #98
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We are going to get more Yui rejection aren't we? I am not surprised at this rate.
That's pretty much been just about all of Yui's scenes up till now.
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Old 2020-08-27, 20:47   Link #99
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As much as I want Yui to win, but Yukino giving it away to Yui pretty much sealed the deal for Yukino to win in the end. Nothing against Yukino but her and 8-man together would be a rather dull sarcastic couple where Yui would be a nice contrast to Hachiman's personality.
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Old 2020-08-27, 20:55   Link #100
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Well that is some card Hachiman pulled out there
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