2010-12-19, 18:17 | Link #1941 | |
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2010-12-19, 18:21 | Link #1942 | ||
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I don't remember the name, but someone here has been pretty convincing with his claim that the tea party is a story told by Eva. Bern maybe found a kakera where Eva decided to tell the "truth" to Ange, and she assumed that such story was the truth. After all there was absolutely no one else that could deny it. However Eva's sanity after the Rokkenjima incident is questionable. It might still be a huge lie. Quote:
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2010-12-19, 18:26 | Link #1946 |
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And who prepared the bank account?
There is no reason for Kinzo to do that. He never converted his gold for 40 years in the normal universe, why would he do that in Lion's world? The story just doesn't work if there isn't a secret nameless bank account with 1 billion in it.
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2010-12-19, 18:38 | Link #1949 |
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Kinzo armed the bomb himself, and according to Yasu, he played with it at his whim. The golden VIP room was Kinzo's true study. This is all from that story you claim is true.
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2010-12-19, 18:39 | Link #1950 |
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Well......she doesn't like losing. She gave Natsuhi more chances than she deserved to come clean, and brutally punished her when she didn't. I'm not sure there were any explicit lies in her statements anyways. She twisted it so Kinzo could only be alive if she was sleeping with him. She let Natsuhi destroy herself.
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2010-12-19, 18:57 | Link #1953 | |
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2010-12-19, 19:03 | Link #1954 | |
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Oh Bernn, you almost made us believe in you...
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2010-12-19, 19:48 | Link #1955 |
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Isn't the EP7 Tea Party just the kakera where everyone bands together to solve the Epitaph? I don't see why its validity is in question. Never before are we shown explicitly a world where the adults try to solve it together. After all, if the scuffle between Eva and Krauss didn't happen, then Kyrie and Rudolf wouldn't have killed the others. They acknowledged this.
Bern is just being a bitch and revealing this to make Ange cry, but that doesn't mean it's false. I wouldn't go so far as to say that "It's the truth of what REALLY happened on Rokkenjima", but I still think that it is a plausable explanation of one of the possible Umineko results. |
2010-12-19, 19:54 | Link #1956 | |
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Facts>Passion..no clues were shown.
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2010-12-19, 20:03 | Link #1957 |
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Except Bern claims that every possible scenario is like this. Not that it's a scenario she found. So we have the right to question it's validity.
Kyrie and Rudolf also really have no reason to kill all of them this way as presented. Like she said the gold was going to blow up even if she didn't. And she has no way of knowing the card key actually has money on it other than being meta. Her reasoning about Krauss actually raises doubt that she would conclude there's Billions of yen on the card. So basically it's "I killed them because I can lol".
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2010-12-19, 20:15 | Link #1958 |
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Oh I see then, I mentioned that its validity could not be questioned if it was one of the many possibilities, but if it was just the one, then yeah, it should be questioned.
Although, I do believe money/greed could've been a possible motive for them and hell, we both know that if they wanted to do it they could've done it. But it still feels like its not enough, Bern ignored the "heart" of the mystery, so it definitely feels like its not the right answer. What you said about the card key and her reasoning of Krauss does seem true, but its not like they could really doubt Yasu after all the truth she gave out...
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2010-12-19, 20:19 | Link #1959 | |
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a.) There is money on the card and she gets rich without getting in trouble (the island blows up), or b.) The is no money on the card and she can just make off with a few of the ingots she stole from the pile. It's a win-win situation. Even if Rudolf dies, she's free from him and can live her life how she wants to. I will concede that I don't think this is the result of every possible scenario, but I do think there is some truth behind it. I still think this game has no happy ending is true, if you think that this IS a single possible result from the parents solving the Epitaph. But I guess we'll find out in a few weeks XD |
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2010-12-19, 20:27 | Link #1960 | |
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Kryie ENVIED Asumu.If she was as cold and calculating as portrayed in the EP7 tea party, don't you think that she would have offed Asumu alot sooner than a decade? Or had Battler killed while he was off with his grandparents? She certainly had no problem killing anyone on that island, and she had made that decision in five minutes.
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