2007-12-07, 16:43 | Link #62 |
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It might run along similar lines , as legend of galactic heroes, where the main protagonist dies, but gains a successor to his work. Zero has outstripped the need for lelouch, he is a symbol of hope and when I think about it , lelouch has burned his bridges with the OBK after abandoning them. With kallen not likely to be a pawn or allow him to use them as pawns(besides lelouch is too far gone down the evil path for even his brains/and leadership to substitute for his personality) , in short they are trading one devil for another probably a worse one.
No, let lelouch die, and a more worthy individual take his place, keeping his brains but leaving a more moral character, in beginning the rebellion he has served his purpose, it's time for the new guy, and if it's rollo , let's give him a chance and see what he's got. |
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2007-12-07, 16:49 | Link #64 |
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Lelouch is too far gone, while I love his character as much as any of you guys, c'mon let's be honest what path this series is heading , lelouch in charge the world will burn if it must ,for him to achieve his goals. I prefer the good guys to win and not trade one devil for another.
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2007-12-07, 17:23 | Link #67 | |
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Lelouch doesn't want to be in charge of the world, he just wants to destroy Britannia, a country that will always treat his sister like a second class citizen for being crippled. Lelouch is the "good guy" (whatever that means in the real robot genre) in this story, make no mistake. it's just that unlike other characters, Lelouch was forced time and again into really really terrible choices between the things he cares about most, because quite simply moral ambiguity and tough decisions are more interesting than having a main character that's a moral high ground. really, it'd be a shame to start focusing on another character after they spent all that time defining Lelouch, especially since he was left with absolutely nothing at the end of 25. |
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2007-12-07, 17:46 | Link #68 |
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Well, in my opinion, there is only one "devil" in this show, and that is Britannia. What Lelouch has done and what he might do in the future simply pales in comparison to Britannia. Invading countries all over the world, enslaving and suppressing the citizens of those countries, taking their nationality away from them, treating them like animals, slaying them... Lelouch has to multiply whatever he's doing by a couple of hundred times in order to play in the same league as Britannia.
And by the way... without Lelouch the show would pretty much die. He is the show, and in my honest opinion... all other characters seem insignificant next to him. They're simply not as interesting to watch as he is. Then again, that's my own opinion... nothing more.
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2007-12-07, 19:17 | Link #70 |
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It’s fine as long Lelouch dies at the END of second season. If it’s in the beginning or in the middle then we might have a problem. In worst case scenario, if that does happen, it’s most likely going to be suzaku or that new kid as Zero
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2007-12-07, 19:31 | Link #71 | |
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nothing that interesting really. |
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2007-12-07, 21:10 | Link #72 |
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Hmmm, so by my calculations Gundam 00 Episode 25/26 would air near the end of March, so I'm predicting an April start for this series (hopefully). I actually had a dream the announcement was coming about 2 days before this news came out. As many people have said, this is probably the biggest news in anime so far this month. I hope Nunally get's to play a bigger role in this series (I recall someone posting something saying a Sunrise employee called her a key character to the storyline so hopefully that's true). Though I think the biggest thing people want to know is who is dead and who isn't. For some reason I think Cornelia is a goner, but since we didn't see C2 or Jerimiah die it's likely they are both alive. I don't see why Lelouche or Suzaku would die either. Now we'll have to see if the series picks up right after Nunally had the "orgasm" (that's what it looked like to me when we heard the gunshot) or a bit later. Such tension!
Teasers likely to follow in Newtype. I will be blogging this when the season airs by the way. |
2007-12-07, 21:31 | Link #73 | |
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From what Schenizeil has been investigating, the Emperor's invasions of various countries around the world is a front for a hidden agenda which defintely is related to the Geass Ruins. And Lelouch is doing exactly what his father wants him to do which none of his other brothers and sisters have done. Killing them despite the fact that all of them had so far tried to help him. And at this point it seems to be another manipulation of him which makes him a simple pawn. Let's also not forget what Lelouch pointed out to Suzaku when they were kids and comparing Britannia and Japan. While Britannia conquered, Japan went out and oppressed poorer countries through economic controls and such. Now it's probably not as bad as enslaving people but bringing down and shoving entire countries into proverty for your own gain is pretty bad too. The point? No one's good in this series which is defintely what they are aiming for. |
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And... the circle is complete. I completely agree with you about that, and I have never said that Lelouch is the good guy. All I was saying is that it is ridiculous (in my opinion of course) to compare what he has done in these 25 episodes to what Britannia has done. It's completely off the scale.
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2007-12-07, 22:42 | Link #75 |
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He's referring a bit to the Sound Episodes in the CD's, Lelouch did Compare Japan to Brittania after he was beaten up by kids.
Regarding the mentality of the series, I suggest you finished it before stating who's evil, whats planning, etc etc. ^^; Lelouch wants the best for his sister and her wish. But the wish itself can't be done without doing something evil; Lelouch himself knows this and isn't trying to make himself look like the good guy either. You've never seen him explain his actions and even the last few scenes you see himself state that he's pulling off the 'evil guy' persona by telling Suzaku " I'm Zero, The Leader of the Black Knights, and the Future Ruler of the World. " Of course he's in denial himself. I remember one line that somebody matched with Lelouch and I think it holds truth; His mentality is like this " If People will think I'm Evil no Matter what I do or say. I May As Well be the Biggest Evil in the World! " In any view you could see an evil side to things, to get a promotion you need to beat somebody else to it and etc. To get the World he wants, he's gonna need to sacrifice things. Yet I've never seen him put the blame on anybody but himself, he knows what he's doing and thats it. Either way, hold it out till the series is over XD Regarding the King; How he can see half the things in the series regarding Lelouch is strangely odd. He's just staring off into clouds and not even a sphere/thing either and he knows. Maybe he wants Lelouch to become like this? To Continue using his power until he becomes the "Geass King" that C.C. spoke about? It's all a mystery, The Brittanian King doesn't care for the Geass Temples either, Schneizel and Clovis themselves cared due to the temples and ruins may provide them to take over. The King Himself doesn't need it as much I think. He's just watching Lulu XD
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2007-12-07, 22:54 | Link #76 | |
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2007-12-07, 22:55 | Link #77 | |
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I've only seen the anime itself, as well as the Picture Dramas. And yeah, you're probably right about what you said about waiting for the other half of the show and what it has to say on the matter before passing judgment. It's probably safe to assume that season two will F around with what we've considered to be true. It sure is going to be a blast to see what it comes down to in the end. Nevertheless... discussions and friendly arguing about stuff like this, halfway through, is pretty fun, and as a watcher it increases my emotional engagement in the story and the characters. Heck, we have to do something while waiting for the continuation. ^^
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That explains why we couldn't agree in the first place. We probably think alike when it comes to Lelouch and his actions, but where I see him as the lesser (by far though) of two evils, you label them both as "evil".
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We are all hoping for that. But if LL isn't Zero then screw this show.
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