2013-07-06, 18:47 | Link #82 | |
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that said, yes he deliberately threw the fight against kakashi, but i personally am unsure why... (hopefully not the scenario where itachi keeps sasuke alive in order to die by his hands)
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2013-07-07, 16:07 | Link #83 | |
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And it is not so much that Obito is a genius. It is that he is incredibly obsessed and determined. That can make up for a lot. Anyway, I truly expect Obito to now try and teach Naruto Uchiha emo suffering by killing the things he loves. He still wants to prove a point. Expect Naruto's buddies to be targets. |
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2013-07-07, 22:26 | Link #84 |
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well this goes back to the meaning of genius in naruto. put itachi and minato against an unknown super powerful opponent and they can probably come up with something on the fly. put shikamaru in that same situation and he's dead whether he figured out the opponent or not, he couldn't do anything about it to win by himself. yes, him and shukaku are the most intelligent characters sure. but in naruto, being a genius means more than that. it means scope of techniques, ability to learn and adapt and of course intelligence as well. all debatable sure, but as far as this discussion has gone, it's been about more than an iq test
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2013-07-08, 05:45 | Link #85 |
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Obito's identity didn't matter to anyone but the fans guessing who he was.Madara or not he was still a threat before he told anyone that.Do you think he would have been ignored or not taking seriously if he had not said he was Madara?Maybe they wouldn't have formed an alliance "it's ok guys it's not madara,go home".I'm not disputing Obito's insane genius,i just don't think his playing Madara is the best example of it.
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2013-07-08, 07:20 | Link #87 |
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That's one example of Madara's identity having some weight,at least toward an individual.After Nagato died Tobbi took on leadership,Kisame not knowing anything was like who are you to be leader.Apparently Obito was playing Madara for sometime and revealed himself to kisame years earlier.Kisame not knowing either Madara or Obito from dirt was convinced.
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2013-07-08, 11:04 | Link #90 |
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he was. he was 'madara' back when he first recruited kisame into akatsuki. but that said, kisame should know 'madara from dirt' there's a giant statue of him at the VotE and it looks nothing like obito. therefore, i can only assume it's a genjutsu obito used to convince kisame he was madara in the first place
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2013-07-08, 16:26 | Link #91 |
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You know those Uchia all look alike.With his messed up face he could have said he was Kisame's mother.Anyways if Kisame is as smart as you he would realize that an aged Madara wouldn't look like the statue no more.But seriously,i do believe he used genjutsu i just didn't say so cause i figured you guys could put two and two together.Oh wait this is the forum where that person went insane cause i didn't want to explain something,sorry then.
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2013-07-08, 17:33 | Link #92 |
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So either Tobi kept using that on Kisame or it doesn't make sense. Kisame was told by this "madara" guy that he will save him from this world of lies and deception, and then suddenly he learns that it's probably not Madara because he looks completely different. Which would mean he was deceived by the masked guy. Of course if Tobi kept his genjutsu on Kisame then he would have to look like Madara to kisame while he is playing the idiot Tobi, which is not possible because Kisame would know that others should recognize Madara. Kisame was also paired with the master of genjutsu (in fact he knew what was going on with Deidara when he was trapped into Itachi's genjutsu, he also knew of tsukiyomi and it's effects which is kinda odd since that's something very rare and secret), it would not make much sense that he is fooled by some lower level genjutsu all the time.
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2013-07-08, 18:27 | Link #94 | ||
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he addressed him as both iirc. when the conversation ended, kisame called him madara-san |
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2013-07-08, 18:55 | Link #95 |
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silly troll. you're comments are usually among the least interesting and pointless. go away please
I was answering a question,sorry.You're right a simple point can be made simply,so if the way i say things has too much pazazz for you i apologise again.I just said Kisame was convinced earlier in the story, and i did not elaborate on how.And even though Tobi may have used a genjitsu on Kisame it's more speculative than to think Kisame wouldn't recognise Madara at that time walking down the street. |
2013-07-08, 22:35 | Link #99 | |
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Obito wasnt dying per se....as you saw, he spirited kakashi away to the other dimension for reasons that may or may not be revealed later, to allow kakashi to slap him around a bit. then he left said dimension to go and become the jinchuriki. what you are likely confusing as him dying is edo madara attempting to control his body and perform the Rinne tensei which would sacrifice obitos life in exchange for bringing madara back to this plane. however, obito overpowered madaras chakra with his own "RIN" a tensei (huh huh huh lol. i make bad jokes ) and proceeded with becoming the jinchiriki which was his plan all along as stated by naruto... yeah i cant wait to see what the next move is gonna be
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